With all due respect Ricky the discussion is a fine example of your western white texan (I dont want to say southern b/c of Charles) example of understanding Arminianism via the scope of your own life experience and matrix-ing it on any given theological system. Try understanding Arminianism as based on theological ideas of the Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560–1609) and his historic supporters known as Remonstrants and see how many of your “views” and “understandings” on Arminianism will have to be dropped right the way…