WHO is the BEAST of Revelation ?

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As far back as I can remember, people have been speculating about the identity of the “Antichrist,” an evil figure referenced in portions of the New Testament.

After President Ronald Wilson Reagan was shot and miraculously recovered in 1981, people made the ridiculous assertion that he was the prophesied evil figure of “end times.” It didn’t help that his first, middle and last name all had six letters (666).

Where’s the “Antichrist” in the Book of Revelation?

The term “Antichrist” only occurs five times in the Bible and all references are in the epistles of John. In the singular form, “Antichrist” is found in 1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3 and 2 John 1:7. Surprisingly, John also speaks of many antichrists (plural) in 1 John 2:18.

The “Beast” of Revelation

Antichrist” isn’t found in the book of Revelation but many consider to be a comparable term—”Beast.” This depiction, found in chapters 13 and 17, describes a demonically inspired political leader who subverts God’s people. Revelation’s depiction of the “Beast” is the one that keeps people awake at night—fearful about the future.

Seven kings are to rise in chronological succession; some have already died, one is now reigning, one is yet to come (Rev. 17:10-11). Thus, the Beast is, on some level, portrayed as a “kingdom.”

1. The beast must be “a man” (Rev. 13:18b).

2. This man must be someone of an evil, idolatrous and blasphemous nature.

3. This man must also possess “great authority” (Rev. 13:2, 7). This demands that he be a political figure, particularly in that “upon his heads are ten diadems.”

4. Must the Beast be one of John’s contemporaries as due to the immediacy of John’s vision?

5. Could the “Beast” be an individual who is relevant to first-century Christians in the seven churches John wrote to (Rev. 1:4, 11)?

60 Comments

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    I believe the antichrist will be the leader of turkey and the false prophet will be the pope.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Do you think it is really that specific or is more of a spirit?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    I am fully convinced they are people since they are thrown alive into the lake of fire. Rev 19:20

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    Let me just ask a simple question. To whom is the book written?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    Well specifically to the 7 churches is asia but also as instruction to the whole body of Christ as the book is canonized as scripture. Paul wrote wrote books to various named people and cities yet we dont feel like the rapture is only for the Thessalonians?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    Strange though that the 7 churches knew what John was talking about. Today we speculate

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    Did they know specifically? Paul had to explain to Thessalonians that they werent in the endtimes yet with 2 Thessalonians? While Revelation was later than Thessalonians it was still future to all who read it at least chapters 4-22.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    Ok

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Greg Grant

    Nero

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Nero is the Pope?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    To use Troy’s words, people have made ridiculous assertions: about revelations and Daniel for that matter, for centuries I would add

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Greg Grant

    No, Nero Caesar was the Antichrist John’s Letters said was already alive. Everything Revelation uses to describe the one who demanded to be worshiped, died and was rumored to come back from the dead, fits Nero Caesar. The numeric value of Nero Caesar is 666.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    The main question for this group is if Pentecostal theologians should approach the subject of the antichrist from a preterist point of view as this article in Charisma magazine asserts http://www.charismamag.com/life/women/26076-who-s-the-beast-in-the-book-of-revelation

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Greg Grant

    And to Carl Murphy’s point, why would John write a letter to the seven churches in Asia, and tell them things that was not relevant in their time? It might be helpful if you realize that the scripture was not written specifically to us, but it is written for us. When you realize this truth you can begin to understand the original intent of the scripture and find application in your own life.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    Yes they should

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Greg Grant

    In John’s Epistles he uses the term Antichrist to refer to anyone who does not acknowledge that the father sent the Son. Anyone who denies Jesus is Antichrist.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    I havent found paul’s epistle to the Texans yet so i am gonna rule out preterist interpretations unless Jesus speaks to me directly. I question the sanity of anyone who thinks the devil is currently in the bottomless pit.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    So what you are saying is you can’t refute his argument therefore you call into doubt his sanity. Great debating ploy.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Greg Grant

    Ricky Grimsley, please show where I said Satan is in the bottomless pit. As to Paul’s letter to the Texans – that explains alot.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      Preterists in general not you personally.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Greg Grant

      Then your comment was meaningless.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Greg Grant

      The problem with those who read news events into The Revelation of Jesus Christ face the insurmountable task of trying to hit a constantly moving target. Study the history, and reap important information from long ago biblical truth, and history.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      Hey if you can show me in history where the antichrist and the false prophet were cast alive into lake of fire?

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Greg Grant

      Once more, where did I say that? You error because of a lack of knowledge.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      If revelation is in the past?

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      Sorry i guess i assumed to much of the term preterism?

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Greg Grant

      Much is in the past. Much is not.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Not sure why Charisma magazine has decided to go preterist on us but any post-mil discussion among Pentecostal must take under a very serious and deep consideration the Premillennialism of the earliest Christians http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/premillennialism-the-earliest-christians/

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    Actually all you have done is post a blog. No theology

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Sounds like the hourglass is running out of sand…

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    If that’s all you have it has. Do you do any research or simply post what others blog?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    The text is from a Charisma magazine article proposing preterism

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    When I hit your link it took me to a blog.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Did you expect that hitting a link on the internet would take you home?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    Since you are touting Charisma magazine, one would think that a rational person would post the actual article. If someone brought me such in the course of their employment, they would be looking for employment. Posting a blog is like making a presentation and saying, I heard that guy down the street said this is the correct way to solve this problem. No research by you, no decision tree methodology no nothing, just so and so said. He who risks his reputation on what others do and say, deserve the reputation they have.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    I respect the eldership, but still looks like the hourglass is running out of sand…

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    James Roy Locklair

    The antichrist will not be revealed till after the rapture

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    I believe that 2 Thessalonians 2 says that the rapture doesnt happen until the antichrist is revealed.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Ricky I already said that but I just dont see how one can be Pentecostal and a preterist at the same time. James I’m with you brother

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Grover Katzmarek Sr

    Well what if the book of Revelation was fulfilled in 70A.D?

    Many theologians of the past believe that it was. I never understood that because all bibles list the date as 96 A. D.

    But a few years ago the Pulpit Commentary gives a good argument to why it was written on the earlier date. I can email to anyone interested in it.

    I have the 38 volumes of Early Church Fathers and Anti-Nicene yet I never came to the conclusion that they were premillennial, seems to be they looked for Christ’s return to bring about general resurrection and judgment.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Greg Grant

    Grover Katzmarek Sr, you are correct. All that must happen for Christ to return has happened.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      How can that be? 2 Thessalonians 2 says the antichrist will be revealed before the day of the lord plus the falling away?

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Greg Grant

      Please post 2 Thessalonian with the word “Antichrist” in it.

    • Reply April 13, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      Seriously, there is no other reasonable explanation for the son of perdition described here. Are there people here that actually believe all prophecy is fulfilled except for rapture and all of revelation is just some allegorical story where nothing is true?

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    I think i could be a Calvinist before a preterist. Since i am an open-theist, that is saying alot.

  • Reply April 14, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Ricky Grimsley A good question to ponder upon: how can a preterist who believes the whole Bible is in the past, recognize the move of the Holy Spirit today? With this logic Acts 2 is in the preterist past and never to be revived again as Joel’s prophecy. It’s about as bad as as a fully cessational hyper Calvinist if you ask me Timothy Carter

  • Reply April 14, 2016

    Greg Grant

    Every book of the Bible was written to specific people for a specific purpose. It could be said that the Bible was not written to us, but it is written for us. Discerning and interpreting is the job of the theologian. The Bible is applicable to our lives. And it does speak of future events; primarily the return of Christ is that future event. Certainly many of the things that happened throughout the scripture, and in Revelation, has happened throughout history. John’s 3 letters tell us about the Antichrist was a specific person who was alive when John wrote his letters. But he also said that anyone who denies that Christ came in the flesh is also Antichrist. Reading Revelation is important not because it tells us of future monsters. If history has taught us anything, it is that horrible monsters are always on the rise. History is full of those who have made themselves God in their own eyes and seek to bring others under their power. Just as the Book of Revelations gave the seven churches of Asia hope that God still works in the world, it also gives us great hope when we face difficulties and challenges as well.

  • Reply April 14, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    Are you saying that i cant really do all things through christ only the philipians can? Lol

    • Reply April 14, 2016

      Greg Grant

      Go back and read what I just said Ricky. I think you’ll find I did indeed say that it is applicable in our lives. But the storyline in the scripture is ancient. Revelation was written somewhere in the first century AD. It is specifically addressed to the seven churches of Asia Minor. That sir is a documented fact. All of the books of the Bible were written to specific people in a specific time for specific purpose. As modern-day readers of the scripture, and theologians, we are tasked with interpreting and finding application.

    • Reply April 14, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      I understand all that but revelation is a completely future book from 4-22. About one specific time period. Not several.

  • Reply April 14, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    Revelation is a specific book about specific people. There is a false prophet and and an antichrist. There will be a time where he cause people to take his mark or die. If you dont believe that you are deceived. Obviously we should be careful in what we say about the book since we are cursed if we add or take away from its words.

    • Reply April 14, 2016

      Greg Grant

      Ricky, is not I who is taking anything away from the scripture. Nor am I the one who is suggesting that when John wrote the Revelation to the seven churches of Asia Minor that he was writing something that they could not comprehend. I’ll let you have the last word.

    • Reply April 14, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      If you are right and things continue on till jesus comes….i hope so. Im saved. It will all be good. If I am right and the world is moving to a one-world government and economy that will be controlled by one man infused with satan with a deceptive religious leader as his right hand man….when would you finally realize what is happening. What would be the sign to you that jesus isnt coming first to restore all things but the antichrist comes first. If you are looking for jesus first and get Satan first will you recognize…..since the time is characterized as the great deception and even strong delusion from God?

    • Reply April 26, 2016

      Grover Katzmarek Sr

      Then why did so many theologians believe that this book was fulfilled in 70 A.D.

      But let me say for close to four decades I believed in the Historical View of Interpretation. I couldn’t understand how most writers believed that it was fulfilled at the fall of Jerusalem. Then I read what the Pulpit Commentary said about the date that it was written. Then the convincing argument they give makes perfect sense

  • Reply April 14, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Let’s not go Lutheran on Revelation. Revelation was to the Church – the people of God, including us today

  • Reply April 20, 2016

    John Powers

    We are focusing on that which is irrelevant. Who he is is not important. What he does and what he represents is where we should be focusing.

  • Reply April 26, 2016

    Varnel Watson

  • Reply May 20, 2017

    Wayne Scott

    No Bible writer ever called the Beast of Revelation “the antichrist.” You are right in saying that the word “antichrist” appears only in I and II John. But there it is clearly described as a false belief system consisting of teachers and doctrines which had already arrived at the time of the writing. There is no mention of an anything yet to come antichrist.

    In 2007 I finished a book called The Prophets’ Gospel where I charge that the one-person-yet-to-come antichrist is a decoy created by the biblical antichrist and that like the proverbial dumb blond the bride of Christ has fallen for the decoy while the real antichrist has crept in the back door in the form of unbiblical doctrines and concepts.

  • Reply May 21, 2017

    Varnel Watson

    Ricky Grimsley thinks its Turkish Erdogan but I strongly doubt it

  • Reply May 21, 2017

    Jonathan Julius

    Thaks i was looking for that so many times

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