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Question: “What is predestination? Is predestination biblical?” Answer: Romans 8:29-30 tells us, “For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he mi
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Mark and Matthew record Jesus speaking Aramiac from the cross:
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34 ESV)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46 ESV)
All other times they record Jesus words using the Greek language. It is accepted that Aramaic was the language Jesus spoke. However, it is obvious that many, if not all of the Apostles were able to communicate in both Aramaic and Greek (and probably knew Latin). So it seems likely that Jesus also was able to speak in both Aramaic and Greek.
Mark and Matthew are purposeful to make the point that when Jesus quoted Psalm 22 He used Aramaic. Consequently they are purposeful to exclude any possible confusion or claim that Jesus quoted the Greek translation of the Psalm, which in the Septuagint is significantly different at that point: ὁ θεὸς ὁ θεός μου πρόσχες μοι (O God, my God, take heed to me). Quoting the Greek lacks the personal pronoun at the beginning and would also have Jesus asking God to take heed of Him, something the Aramaic precludes.
While the use of the Aramaic quotation can be seen as purposeful to ensure Jesus correctly quotes the Psalm, it also gives reason to question the assertion that all of the other sayings of Jesus were exclusively spoken in Aramaic and translated into Greek.
What is the evidence Jesus spoke exclusively in Aramaic and never used the Greek language?
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No.
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when predestination is used in the bible its talking about the Jews and not the philosophical greco-roman idea of the concept .
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Robert Erwine A lot of people who believe that could save money by only buying a New Testament. Less carry weight also.
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My current stance is to disagree with this article.
God has made the opportunity available with a pre-determined plan to make salvation available to men.
However, I can recall 3 places the Bible says that God does not use favoritism, meaning that God has made the opportunity equal to Jews and Gentiles alike. This would have to apply to individuals as well.
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The Bible says God has no respect of persons. Doesn’t it.
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John 15:16 English Standard Version (ESV)
16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
God chooses us, and the people that he chooses will abide in him.
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how do you explain this? Rob White
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God chases us. It is us that doesn’t choose Him.
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thats twisted , so God then creates people that are damned from the start ? cold .
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Rob White I honestly dont think Jesus is saying in John 6 what you are implying
W Scott Creasy
I see that every human, being created in God’s image, was designed to be like Christ.
It is not his will that any should perish. Therefore those that do perish, do it against God’s predestined design. Those who choose life in Christ will live, as God predesigned.
Brian Roden
The debate isn’t over whether predestination is in the Bible, but over exactly what prooridzō means
Varnel Watson
tell us oh Wayne Scott you seem to know it all
Kelly Crites
To determine before hand.
Louise Cummings
Yes , as far as all were predestine to go to Heaven. But not for some to go to Heaven, and some to go to Hell. Jesus died on a Cross for everyone. He gave a choice that you could believe in Jesus , and live everlasting. Or not believe in Jesus , and forever be lost. But God didn’t predestine you to be lost forever.
Kelly Crites
Louise Cummings every single person on earth is predestined to heaven? Or only those who believe?
Thomas Henry Jr.
Kelly Crites great question
Varnel Watson
Ray E Horton it aint biblical – period
Neil Short
Romans 8:28, the predestination is about being like Christ through sharing in Christ’s sufferings (Romans 8:16-17)
Ephesians 1:5 Paul means that those who have become believers and marked by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13) are adopted into God’s family and will someday receive the inheritance of a begotten child (Ephesians 1:11, 14).
Varnel Watson
to put it short 🙂
Louise Cummings
He had already determined when He was born by the Virgin Mary. That I will die on the Cross , Shed His Blood on the Cross for Who So Ever Will Trust Him as Lord and Savior. Will be saved. Why did He say For God So loved The World. That who so ever believe in Him Should Not Perish. But have Everlasting Life. Who is who so ever. Oh I see what you false teachers teach. That means a few He foreknew. Well He foreknew Me. He fore knew everyone. Or it couldn’t be Who so Ever Will. Who is everyone.
Louise Cummings
I lost the page to write in the square and put my E Mail address. I had written it once but they probably needed it on record. If you can help me find it.
Toby Lee Fricks
No
Varnel Watson
to state it Short