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Revelation 14:3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.
This 144,000 is a special group of people in Revelation. Were they all male before their resurrection?
Anonymous
Link Hudson perhaps another video is in order here for Philip Williams
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Troy Day in Christ there is neither male nor female!
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Philip Williams you fell that way too?
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Troy Day they are a vast number!
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Philip Williams copout
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Yes 💯 male
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Michael Chauncey based on WHAT?
Virgins anywhere in the NT is used ONLY in regard of women
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Revelation 14:4 “These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgin (Greek: παρθένοι pure).”
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παρθένοι pure Michael Ellis Carter Jr. Michael Chauncey John Mushenhouse in this form is used ONLY 4 times in the NT – all other 3 times is used about women. I see interlinear parsing it as either masc. or fem. but in reality it is plural and cannot identify gender as in
pure THEY are – are they men or women?
παρθένοι pure does not DEFINE this
MIND YOU Athena παρθένον – the other form of the word pure derives from rich Greek history From Athena Parthenos – a statue of a female goddess cult, which begun in 447 BCE and dedicated in 438 BCE; it would remain the great city’s symbol for a thousand years until, in Late Antiquity, it disappeared from the historical record, possibly taken to Constantinople and there later destroyed.
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Troy Day They are men as they did not defile themselves with women. In other words, they remained sexually pure and unmarried.
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If taken literally, they’re all male.
If taken symbolically then it could be the church.
There are hints to symbolically being the church. But I have yet to find a good explanation of what the number of 144,000 would mean. So I’m going stick with the literal meaning for now.
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Brett Dobbs how do you mean ?
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yes
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Brethren (Both brothers and sisters) only.
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Rasiah Thomas Revelation does NOT say any of that
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Troy Day Although the Word does not mention clearly, men or brethren are inclusive of both genders.
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Jehovah Witnesses
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hahaha
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My question is are they physical virgins or spiritual virgins? If the latter is true technically some of them could be both.