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Romans 8:2 NLT
For the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you through Christ Jesus from the power of sin that leads to death.
KJV Romans 8 : 2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 8:2 ESV
For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
Romans 8:2 YLT
for the law of the Spirit of the life in Christ Jesus did set me free from the law of the sin and of the death;
Most translators translate the word νόμος as law whilst the NLT chose to use the word power
How can we understand the NLT translation?
Troy Day
well since Philip Williams Glynn Brown are reading NLT we would have to stick to KJV with John Mushenhouse Neil Steven Lawrence
Glynn Brown
Troy Day you speak with ignorance. I like the NIV and ESV,which is much more accurate than the obsolete kjv.
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown That is very subjective. Have you studied Textaul criticism?
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse yes I have.
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown where and under whom?
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse are you kjvo?
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse I’m well read on the subject,I’ve followed the Alands,Metzger,Epp,Erasmus,all of the greats . There’s nothing subjective about the inferiority of the TR/kjv. They’re based on a handful of late Byzantine MSS.
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown I studied under Dr. Metzger — When were you at Princeton? That will tell you if I am KJVO —- why would you ask?
John Mushenhouse
Do you realize that you don’t have to teach 101 info in here? Many have taken advanced graduate level courses and we understand the basic teachings.
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse I don’t like to assume what people know or don’t know since we are not familiar with each other.
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown so when did you go to Princeton?
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown I suspect that you wouldn’t have been so basic if you have advanced training. Is your education from the net and not top tier seminaries?
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse I didn’t say anything about Princeton . You can’t even spell textual criticism. You wrote textaul criticism.
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown sorry —- I am legally blind —— My typing is not always good. Where did you go to seminary?
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse did I say anything about seminary?
Why do you have to stick with the kjv as Troy said?
Did Princeton tell you it’s subjective to state the obvious? That the NIV and ESV are much more accurate than the kjv?
If you have a point,try to make it. Throwing your degree around is pointless. Do you even have a point in this thread?
Troy Day
Glynn Brown I had the pressure to work with Metzger and he was the real deal in linguistiX. Not so much in theology HOWEVER we both agreed his Princeton was not my Tubingen AND that he Metzger was way too far from the German text critical school of the BIBLE I’ve mentioned this only 1-2 times on the internets for Philip Williams but perhaps William DeArteaga should help me finish my book on the subject so I can share my story at last
Troy Day
John Mushenhouse That the NIV and ESV are much more accurate than the kjv? compared to what? all kjv had was some early versions of TR Glynn Brown you are really comparing apples to oranges I bet you have never held a real KJV in your hands based on what you said. I almost bought a leaf a few years ago for a few thousands dollars. I am now glad I did not
Troy Day
John Mushenhouse it appears Glynn is a robo-bot without salvation
Glynn Brown
Troy Day it’s obvious that you’ve never compared the 1611 to the 1769 kjv. That would require you to actually think for yourself.
Philip Williams
Troy Day didn’t Bart Ehrman succeed Metzger regarding his text criticism?
Troy Day
Glynn Brown how about going back to Rom 8 2 in your fav. NLT as John Mushenhouse suggested. No point to measure your degrees with theological training which you do not really seem to have at this time. Just state your point on the text
Glynn Brown
Troy Day did you theological training teach you to lie and make up stuff?
Show me and John Mushenhouse where I ever stated that I like or read the NLT .
Troy Day
Glynn Brown MY theological training is to assess students of the BIBLE like you. It is evident from your take on Rev. authorship + this and many other discussion you are quite liberal in your theologizing – speaking about what you said in our conv. here. You also tend to operate on a low level personality that sparks gets mad fast and disregards others’ opinions like John Mushenhouse noted. Terry Wiles wrote a book on REV and would tell you how wrong you are on its authorship THEN you used some secular sources on church fathers unknown to any of us AND lied about the church fathers stance. So YES based on all this you favor NLT or other secular translation – the ones you mentioned are owned by secular companies but you already knew that
Glynn Brown
Troy Day wrong again,I’m conservative. But it’s obvious that you’re a traditionalist and a fundamentalist that rejects modern scholarship. You operate on an immature and childish level. Why would I care what Terry writes? He’s rejecting the scholarly consensus. Then you lied and stated that all church fathers agreed with you.
The kjv is an Anglican bible ,a revision of the Bishop’s Bible,based on the text of a Roman Catholic priest.
Glynn Brown
Troy Day the kjv is a Calvinist bible,king James was a Calvinist, and the majority of the translators were Calvinists. So by your logic,that makes you a Calvinist.
Glynn Brown
Troy Day the kjv translators were also baby sprinklers as well as the Anglican Church. So you must be a baby sprinkler too.
King James was a witch hunter and even authored a book on it. I guess you’re a witch hunter too.
King James and Erasmus were both gay. Does that make you gay too?
Troy Day
Glynn Brown Is there any support in the Bible for existence of Aliens?Nephilim,Giants, Sons of God, Satan attending a meeting of God as a representative of earth?
Neil Steven Lawrence
NIV is the primary translation I use, but I sometimes use NLT devotionally. Of course while growing up in the church I heard the KJV being ministered from–so many passages are imprinted on me from ‘revised’ versions of the ‘KJVerion’
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Pentecostal Theology
Neil Steven Lawrence well seems our friend Glynn Brown is not even on the chart 🙂
Glynn Brown
Pentecostal Theology wrong again,the NIV and ESV are on the chart.
Troy Day
Glynn Brown of course you would read the liberal NIV which deletes YHWH from the text so many times but John Mushenhouse knew this
Glynn Brown
Troy Day and you would read the kjv that changes YHWH to Jehovah ,no wonder jehovahas witnesses love the kjv. It’s the number one choice for cults.
John Mushenhouse
Glynn Brown new world translation ?????
Glynn Brown
John Mushenhouse Troy Day keeps spreading lies about me liking the NLT ,so I’m giving him a taste of his own medicine.
Glynn Brown
Neil Steven Lawrence the NIV is a conservative translation. Of course you would read the kjv that removes God from Revelation 1:8 against all Greek MSS. And calls the Holy Spirit an IT.