Peter A Vandever | PentecostalTheology.com
Let me ask you one question: If the same Holy Spirit lived in Smith Wigglesworth lives in you, why can He not manifest the same miracle anointing through you? If you are willing, the Holy Spirit is willing. I know that much for sure. Just step out and walk on the water with Jesus in your measure of faith.
Tom Steele [10/02/2015 8:10 PM]
I have been serving and sitting under the ministry of Pastor Rod Parsley since 2001. I studied at his Bible College between 2001 and 2003. As many who follow Rod Parsley’s ministry may know, he served Lester Sumrall and recognized him as his own Pastor for about 15 years until Sumrall die. Sumrall, of course, always recognized Wigglesworth as perhaps one of his own greatest mentors and spiritual fathers. Parsley today is generally recognized by all major leaders within Pentecostal circles that are connected to him as having a spiritual lineage that goes Wigglesworth, Sumrall, Parsley.
I have heard many times over the years Pastor Parsley speak on what Wiggesworth did, the mighty miracles, raising the dead, and so on. HOWEVER, Pastor Parsley also tells us often that Wiggeslworth refused to allow any publication other than the Bible into his home, how he spent time with God by reading the Bible 30 minutes, praying 30 minutes, reading 30 minutes, praying 30 minutes, all day long, and how he would obey the Scripture strictly.
I read an account of Wigglesworth being asked to pray over a meal set at a banquet where pork was being served and he blurted out, “God, if you can bless what you have cursed, then bless this filthy swine.” He was later asked if he was going to have a piece of the pork and he said that he never touches it.
Pastor Parsley often gives one of his most powerful quotes when he shares accounts of those who have gone before us like Wigglesworth: “We don’t do what they did because we don’t do what they did!”
If you want to operate in the power of what Wigglesworth did, you need to submit to God in the manner that Wigglesworth did. Those not willing to study like he did, pray like he did, obey God’s Laws like he did, will never operate in the faith that he did.
Peter A Vandever [10/02/2015 8:13 PM]
Smith Wigglesworth…. Rod doesnt seem as strong on jmpartation as he used to be 🙁
Charles Page [10/02/2015 8:18 PM]
lot of religious bull here!!! 😉
Tom Steele [10/02/2015 8:18 PM]
In all the years I have been with Pastor Parsley I have watched him operate as the Spirit guides him. He moves in waves, and I have seen that. There are times when God moves strongly through him in the area of impartation, and other times when God moves in other ways. There was a season a few years ago when he was so consumed with God’s love that it was all he could talk about. It was a much needed message for the body, especially from a man known for his strong stance for righteousness. One of the reasons I am confident in the revival movement toward embracing the roots of our faith from God’s Torah is because of Pastor Parsley’s teachings in recent years, it is much stronger in that area.
Peter A Vandever [10/02/2015 8:22 PM]
I expect he will get very strong on healing 🙂 I wont say more as I am not sure how much is “public”
Stan Wayne [10/02/2015 9:52 PM]
There is such a thing as healing as a gifting – Smith had it not everybody does
Peter A Vandever [10/02/2015 11:26 PM]
You need to study more 🙂
Peter A Vandever [10/03/2015 4:52 AM]
Smith is the Apostolic leadership we need 🙂
Jim Kingsnorth [10/03/2015 6:22 AM]
Smith Wigglesworth gave up his life for the gospel. If you want that kind of power, pay the price. If your reading this on facebook, you are not paying the price.
Stan Wayne [10/03/2015 9:55 AM]
I like smith w – used to read everything about him and interview old timers who saw him – the way he died was most poignant – I also like that his definition of faith was not the wof variety
Peter A Vandever [10/04/2015 2:54 AM]
He was one of the core foundation that become the Faith movement. His spiritual son was Lester Summerall that was a major leader in the faith movement.
Stan Wayne [10/04/2015 8:03 AM]
Smith however was not WOF – Lester Sumrall – many ex AG or Pentecostal Holiness figures like him came close to WOF but people like Sumrall and Roberts Kathryn Kuhlman and Schamback and AA Allen and TL Osborn preceded the influence of Kenyon/Hagin spoken word ideology.
Smith Wigglesworth is completely unrelated to the Kenyon ideology.
Rev. Dick Morris [10/04/2015 11:47 AM]
Jim, maybe you’re not paying the price by putting it on Facebook.
Stan Wayne [10/04/2015 2:36 PM]
Tom – I don’t know how young or old you are but if you listened to the Wigglesworth/ Osborn/ Kuhlman/ Aimee Mcphereson Pentecostalism versus Hagin popularized Kenyonism the flavor of “power of tongue” teaching in both is completely different. In one the concept is a creative force delegated to and exercised by the believer – in the other it is the expression of faith through gifting that moves the Holy Spirit to heal a la “the power of the Lord was present to heal” or “the Spirit moved”.
They are different animals. With Kenyon you almost don’t need prayer. With Wigglesworth you do.
Peter A Vandever [10/04/2015 9:26 PM]
TL Osborn was very much WOF. You act like being faith filled is a bad thing? I will take faith over fear anyday.
Charles Page [10/04/2015 9:31 PM]
is T L Lowery WOF?
Charles Page [10/04/2015 9:33 PM]
WOF is where the money is now! getting rich off seed faith giving.
Peter A Vandever [10/04/2015 9:47 PM]
TL was very word of faith. I spend quite a bit of time with him.
Peter A Vandever [10/04/2015 9:47 PM]
Sorry, TL Osborn, not lowery.
Stan Wayne [10/05/2015 5:59 AM]
Yes TL did go that way at the end like so many – it became orthodoxy in Oklahoma
Stan Wayne [10/05/2015 6:03 AM]
Faith and wof “faith” are two different animals – one is a human ginning something up with words, the other is a gift in response to a seeking soul as in the similar salvation faith:
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,”
Ephesians 2:8 NKJV
Peter A Vandever [10/05/2015 6:12 AM]
you are one of those types…. sorry, I am not going to be a fear preacher!
Peter A Vandever [10/05/2015 6:13 AM]
TL Osborn didnt the gospel of poverty as long as I knew him!
Stan Wayne [10/05/2015 6:24 AM]
Peter – my taxable income last year was $286K and I deny the prosperity gospel of wof is anything more than Christian Science infiltrating Pentecostalism
Charismatic Theology [12/14/2015 4:34 AM]
If you want to grow in the area of dreams and visions, the gifts of the Holy Spirit and especially discerning of spirits, then your wait is over. Listening, waiting and watching are keys to growth in the things of the Holy Spirit. The following Scripture exemplifies the content in this book: For from days of old they have not heard or perceived by ear, nor has the eye seen a God besides You, who acts in behalf of the one who waits for Him. Isaiah 64:4