40% of all Pentecostals DONT speak in tongues

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The survey, released Thursday by the Washington-based Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, found that experiences of divine healing of physical ailments were far more prominent for those who affiliate with the vibrant and growing segment of Christianity.

Researchers found that many Pentecostals and charismatics attend worship services where speaking in tongues and other signs of the Holy Spirit are evident. But in six of the 10 countries surveyed, at least 40 percent of Pentecostals said they never pray or speak in tongues.

“I think that the classic Pentecostal belief that speaking in tongues was the real evidence of the second baptism of the Holy Spirit is, at least in practice, not widely accepted around the world,” said John Green, senior fellow at the Pew Forum and a longtime observer of religion and politics.

The Assemblies of God, one of the nation’s largest Pentecostal denominations with 3 million members, has 66 million members worldwide. Assemblies officials worried about the decline in messages in tongues — or spirit baptism — at a general council meeting this month. The practice decreased by about 3 percent to fewer than 82,000, the lowest total since 1995, according to statistics released by the Assemblies of God.

“This is a long-developing phenomenon,” said Harvey Cox, an expert in Pentecostalism and professor of religion at the Harvard Divinity School. “They don’t want what appears to be objectionable to stick out or be viewed with suspicion.” Pentecostalism represents one of the fastest-growing segments of global Christianity. At least a quarter of the world’s 2 billion Christians are members of the Pentecostal faith or related charismatic movements, according to the Pew Research Center.

126 Comments

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Some additional considerations by David Arnett before we start this perhaps good discussion Ify Divine Nsoha Emanuel Rodriguez http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/why-tongues-the-initial-evidence-doctrine-in-north-american-pentecostal-churches/

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Melvin Shomo

    The report is probably right because the leaders of the churches do not know how to pray over the people to help them release their prayer language.

    The church is becoming more trusting in the world’s technology including medical.
    The prayer of faith isn’t healing the people, because most Churches relinquish all athority over to the medical Doctors

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Scotty Searan

      I agree with you very much.
      Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Scotty Searan

      I agree with you very much.
      Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
      Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Seems like specific to our AG. What is in your denominations where you pastor Terry Wiles Ed Brewer David Lewayne Porter Daniel Blaylock Daniel Rushing

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Daniel Rushing

      Dr. Voorhis from ECBC did some research on this in the lat 90s early 2000s and his numbers were that or worse in the COG if I remember correctly.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel Blaylock

    Sadly, I’d suspect this statistic would hold true in our denomination as well.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Daniel Rushing Is this the study out of Charlotte ?

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Ed Brewer

    Dr Lamar Vest, when he was General Overseer, said that when the church drops below 50% spirit filled with initial evidence we lose the right to legitimately be called Pentecostal. (My paraphrase)

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Are you referring to the same study as Daniel Rushing What is the exact numbers currently ?

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Emanuel Rodriguez

    I dare not comment, I’ll sit this one out

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Terry Wiles

    The problem can be more a lack of time for altars and church camps where people can let God move on their heart.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Dan Irving

    Hold the boat. The question “Do all speak in tongues?” is clearly rhetorical. Not all do.

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Dean Roy

      This is referring to the gift and not the personal prayer language. Every one on the day of Pentecost spoke with tongues.Acts 19 All twelve spoke in tongues and prophecyed. Time doesn’t alway for a bible study here

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Dan That question refers to the gift of speaking in tongues not the initial evidence. At Pentecost they ALL heard them speak

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Dan Irving

      Troy Day, Look again at the title. “Speak” is present-tense. It does not ask “HAVE all . .”

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      What are you talking about ?

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Dan Irving

      Your statistic of lamentation that “40% of all Pentecostals don’t speak in tongues.” I am saying, that is not necessarily a problem, as scripture would agree.

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      1 Corinthians 12:30-31
      Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? Now eagerly desire the greater gifts. And yet I will show you the most excellent way.

      Mention of gifts before and after as well as the list literary form shows without doubt Pail is speaking of the gift of speaking in tongues accompanied with interpretation. He takes the time to explain the difference in the following chapter 14

      • Reply February 24, 2018

        Scotty Searan

        How many members actually have any of the 9 manifestations of Holy Ghost operating in their lives today.
        These are supernatural manifestations, not learned manifestations.
        Every Holy Ghost baptize believer should have a manifestation of the Holy Ghost operating in their life.
        We are commanded to walk in the Spirit and sooner or later the Spirit will manifest itself.

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Dan Irving

      “Ask?” Of course. What percentage prophesy? (Y’know, we are SPECIFICALLY told to ask for that gift.)

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Yes we are from whereas the difference between the gift of speaking in tongues and the initial evidence. The OP is about the initial evidence present with the Baptism of the HS

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    An apositive expression in Greek. Yet, the answer is found in the first chapter of Corinthians.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Daniel J Hesse what is the situation i your church ?

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    1 Cor 1:4-7.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Terry Wiles the problem could be not entirely sanctified hears. The Holy Spirit will not enter not entirely sanctified heart

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    Our people are afraid of the Holy Spirit. You can’t control the Holy Spirit.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Daniel J Hesse whos your ppl church or denomination? Says you live in DC I lived in Alexandrian and then Fairfax back in the day and was not for once away anyone lived in the actual DC

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    As Pentecostalism became more cultural 4 and 5 generations many forsook the work of the Spirit.

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      should have never happened – I am 4-5 generation Pentecostal

    • Reply February 24, 2018

      Daniel J Hesse

      Pressure to conform and stay relevant and viable too.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    Any one who holds to the baptism with other tongues finds themselves on the outside.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    Most folks who experience the work of the Spirit in mass setting rarely fan the flame or exercise in yieldedness to Him.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Dan I am more interested in stats from churches per OP but I will take the time to explain

    Acts 2 and following Acts passages show they ALL spoke in tongues

    Holding that Paul in 1 Cor 12 does not refer to the gift paired with interpretation is a secession view which I strongly disagree with. Per out last conversation some knowledge of the Greek is a must. Paul clearly explains the difference in 1 Cor 14. The different Greek words used prove it without question

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    The teal question is do people have faith to exercise what they receive from the Holy Spirit? Are they willing to grow in their gifts and continually manifest His fruit. I question manifestations where the very fruit of the Spirit is absent. Some behavior is very abhorrent.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    True that Alan Smith #backTOtheBASICS

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Daniel J Hesse

    It is sown in peace of those who live in the same. The Gospel and Pentecost has taken so many different hues and operated in a spirit of competition.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Terry Wiles

    Troy Day. Well, I’m sure there are plenty of unsanctified hearts.

  • Reply February 24, 2018

    Scotty Searan

    How many members actually have any of the 9 manifestations of Holy Ghost operating in their lives today.
    These are supernatural manifestations, not learned manifestations.
    Every Holy Ghost baptize believer should have a manifestation of the Holy Ghost operating in their life.
    We are commanded to walk in the Spirit and sooner or later the Spirit will manifest itself.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Daniel J Hesse I am not aware of any major Pentecostal camp meeting in the Washington DC area. Where about one would be held there?

    Terry Wiles The Holy Spirit will not enter an unsanctified heart Light shall not abide with darkness and Christ with Satan

    Scotty Searan After studying early Pentecostals for years now I am not ware of ANY early Pentecostal group that did not speak 100% in tongues or did not believe tongues were the sign or recognized someone is baptized with the HS without speaking in tongues

    Daniel Rushing I do hope you get us that study today

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Terry Wiles

    Troy Day. I am sanctified in Christ Jesus and baptized into the Body of Christ by the work of the Holy Spirit. However, I am not perfect and neither are you.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    You need to read on Weslyan second work of grace

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Terry Wiles

    Honestly, Troy Day, I haven’t seen the fruit of what you call a “second work of grace” in anybody. It makes a good preaching point. But the evidence is totally subjective.

    At least with The Baptism in The Holy Spirit we agree that the evidence is objective: tongues.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Have you seen The Holy Spirit?

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Terry Wiles

    I have a personal relationship with Him. Do you?

    • Reply February 26, 2018

      Angela Dobson

      I have a question. Where in the bible does it say we are to have a relationship with the HS?

    • Reply February 26, 2018

      Terry Wiles

      Angela Dobson read John 15 and 16. Jesus is saying the Holy Spirit will be sent by Him and will guide you and be in you.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Ify Divine Nsoha

    There is no second work of grace called sanctification.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Ify Divine Nsoha

    Sanctification happened at the moment of conversion AND is a continual process of becoming like Christ. Wesley was a great man – he was wrong on that one

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Daniel Blaylock

      I think most people completely misunderstand was this position. He did not put the gradual against the instantaneous; he combined both ideas. Most people disagree with a strawman argument that has little resemblance to Wesley‘s actual position.

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Ify Divine Nsoha

      Daniel Blaylock it doesn’t help that that’s what most wesleyans tell you he believes tho ?

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Ify Divine Nsoha

      But that’s fair

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Daniel Rushing

    Troy Day Here it is. From his book “Experiences in Pentecost,” pages 315-326. Based on COG reporting.

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      is this true? Ed Brewer David Lewayne Porter

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      David Lewayne Porter

      That would not surprise me.
      2004 was around the time that the CoG had a renewed thrust to revisit the roots of Pentecost and Holy Spirit baptism with accompanying fruit and gift manifestations.

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      What would be the current status 15 yrs later?

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Dan Irving

    The Pentecostal denominations stand divided on this question. I think each side has a piece, but neither has the whole.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Daniel Blaylock

    Our sound bytes about such heavy theological issues do no justice to the difficulty or weightiness of these topics.

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      If I can only turn my silent digital sound bites to sanity bites of theology proper I’ve done my part

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Dan What Pentecostal denominations stand divided on that issue in particular ? It’s more of non-Pentecostal charismatics and wanna be pentecostal that split hairs Brody Pope Steve Phifer

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Steve Phifer

    Many younger A/G ministers question initial evidence but do so privately. Part of the problem is that initial evidence is a modern question asked of an ancient truth. Modern thought wants linear, cause and effect, doctrine which are foreign to the ancient world or to the world of spiritual things. Post moderns are not laden with this type of thinking, so they can embrace prayer in the Spirit without the “evidence” thinking.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Steve Phifer

    If I understand my grandfather’s generation they experienced 20th Century Pentecost because of their hunger for God. I think this is still the cure and the secret of a 21st Century Pentecost. We must remember that God has promised an outpouring in the Last Days. Perhaps a Postmodern Pentecostalism will encourage prayer in the Spirit and not throw up a language barrier. Hungry souls all through the church are discovering prayer in the Spirit; this is not the time for us to lose it.

    • Reply February 25, 2018

      Scotty Searan

      If we are truly hungry for more of God as we are for fulfilling the hunger for natural appetites; We will do what is necessary to get more.
      If not we will continue down the path malnutrition.

    • Reply February 26, 2018

      Louise Cummings

      Amen.

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    hunger for God – hear hear Brody Pope

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Christopher Noel Boggess

    That is shocking

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    ? <= shocked

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Christopher Noel Boggess

    Im a penecostal holy roller set on fire tongue prayer

  • Reply February 25, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Anonymous

      Loved this.

  • Reply February 26, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Ify Divine Nsoha Consider this:
    That Entire Sanctification is a definite act of God’s grace, subsequent to the New Birth, by which the believer’s heart is purified and made holy. It cannot be attained progressively by works, struggle or suppression, but it is obtained by faith in the sanctifying blood of Jesus Christ. Holiness of life and purity of heart are central to Christian living – Luke 1:74,75; John 17:15-17; I Thessalonians 4:3,7,8; 5:22-24; Ephesians 5:25-27; Hebrews 2:11; 10:10,14; 13:11,12; Titus 2:11-14; I John 1:7; Hebrews 12:14; I Peter 1:14-16.

    Sanctification is an instantaneous experience given to a believer to enable him cleave to God without the tendency to want to go astray or go away from the Lord. It is not a protracted or tedious process of growth. You do not grow INTO sanctification, but you can grow IN sanctification. We can never grow into what God must of necessity do for us. Again, sanctification is not brought about by death: to assume that is to say that death is no longer our last enemy to be destroyed (I Corinthians 15:26). Neither are we cleansed from the original stain (the nature we brought into the world) through Water Baptism. Entire sanctification is not of works, but it is the work of God, divinely wrought by the Holy Spirit. http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/entire-sanctification-we-cannot-grow-into-sanctification-but-we-can-grow-in-sanctification/

  • Reply February 27, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Melvin Harter This is the discussion here

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    Varnel Watson

    no the dont

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    Les Snowden

    Speaking in tongues is only one of the gifts of the Holy spirit we don’t all get the same thing

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    Chris Westerman

    There is one gift of holy spirit and we all have nine ways to manifest it.

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    Chris Westerman

    I did not see 10 hard questions.

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    Ray E Horton

    That’s because many Pentecostals, like all Christians, are what they are in name only. If there is to be blame,it likely goes to backsliden pastors/church leaders, who don’t promote tongues or the other spiritual gifts, even though that’s our primary distinctive. It interferes with their control. The biggest church growth that we see is among Charismatics who remain on fire for the Lord, making good use of the gifts.

    • Reply January 27, 2020

      James Michael Sanders

      Ray E Horton someone told me recently of a Pentecostal fellowship near me that tells their people don’t use the gifts during service. That it may cause confusion…

      This is what many have Become in “some” American churches. Afraid of appearing weird, or causing confusion, or offending men, yet no concern that they are quenching the Spirit of God and basically asking Him to stay outside while they have church. ?

    • Reply January 27, 2020

      Ray E Horton

      James Michael Sanders So sad!

    • Reply January 29, 2020

      Joe Absher

      Yes it is . a young recently came to one of our services and was baptised in the holy ghost with the evidence . he said he has been going to an AofG church 2 years and never heard anyone speak in tongues . tongues is a controversy but an important part of our pentecostal experience

    • Reply January 29, 2020

      Ray E Horton

      Joe Absher Yes, a key distinctive that really shouldn’t be controversial, at least among Pentecostals. It is a compromise of the truth that we have been entrusted with.

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    James Michael Sanders

    Not to be a jerk or argumentative. But I always wonder why we use these type percentages. I’ve served the Lord for 25 yrs an I or no one I know who serves has ever been asked these type questions or taken these surveys. So how can we say honestly that only 40% speak in tongues?

    Well I do, and some in our church does. I guess the numbers need to change a bit ?

  • Reply January 27, 2020

    Ray E Horton

    ?

  • Reply January 28, 2020

    Varnel Watson

    James Michael Sanders for a very simple reason When you say you are republican but you vote democrat 51% of the times you are a democrat. When you say you are Pentecostal but 51% dont speak in tongues well then you are a good ol Baptist

  • Reply January 28, 2020

    Isara Mo

    Not surprised.
    That is like saying 40 percent of New York do no hold a valid driving license..
    To me a Pentecostal who doesn’t speak in tongues is like a driver without a valid driving license..

  • Reply January 29, 2020

    Varnel Watson

    so Isara Mo you see the baptism as license ? to sin?

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      Wrong interpretation.
      Don’t put words in my mouth(I have already a mouthful)..

  • Reply January 29, 2020

    Daniel J Hesse

    Do all speak with tongues? I show you a more excellent way.

    • Reply January 29, 2020

      Pastor Rodney A Jackson

      Daniel J Hesse is the more excellent way void of tongues or a fulfillment of tongues?

    • Reply January 29, 2020

      Daniel J Hesse

      Pastor Rodney A Jackson the latter. The God who is love provides every good and perfect gift within His good will.

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Varnel Watson

      Daniel J Hesse the more excellent way of PAUL is to speak in tongues and practice ALL the gifts with it

  • Reply January 29, 2020

    Varnel Watson

    Daniel J Hesse that line of thinking is quite cessational and not Pentecostal at all

  • Reply January 29, 2020

    Michael Ellis Carter Jr.

    How can you be Pentecostal without tongues? It would make you a charismatic or well…. never mind

    • Reply January 29, 2020

      Ray E Horton

      Michael Ellis Carter Jr. I’ve found that Charismatics have typically been more faithful to tongues than classical Pentecostals.

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Varnel Watson

      Ray E Horton you are kidding right? It is mainly charismaics that have implied tongues are of NO need EVEN when those sames charismatics operate the GIFT of tongues but do not believe the initial evidence

      Rejecting tongues as initial evidence IS the VERY difference between Pentecostals and charismatics along with reformed theology in some cases JUST see what is happening with the Canadian AG or ask Peter Vandever about Pensacola

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      Pentecost is a word I can find in the Bible.. So I have no problem with Pentecostal..
      Is there a world like Charisma.. Plse show me verse so that I can understand the word Charismatic..
      If someone for reasons known to himself chooses to have a face lift will I identify him by his name or his face lift?
      Such to me is the position of a Pentecostal and a Charismatic..
      If a Charismatic doesn’t speak it wouldn’t bother me..
      But a Pentecostal?
      Biblical incidences of “early Pentecostals” (let me call them THAT) show tongues was part and parcel of the believers connection to the supernatural..
      It is is plainly said in 1 Cor 14 that he who speaks in a tongue doesn’t speak with men but with GOD..
      Let’s not try to fit scripture to our theologies but rather let’s our theologies fit to the Scriptures.
      You can’t force a shoe into a foot nor can you force a foot into a shoe.
      The size of the foot determines the size of the shoe not vice versa..
      So it is with scripture..
      Let’s not our intelligences dictate what the scripture should follow but let our intelligences follow the scripture..

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Varnel Watson

      Isara Mo YES there is a word like Charisma

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      Show me..

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Ray E Horton

      Troy Day Our experiences must be quite different. Every charismatic church I have been involved of or have knowledge of in my area very much encourages tongues. Whether tongues is THE initial evidence or AN initial evidence is a moot point for me with theological discussion irrelevant from my personal experience. The day I was Baptized in the Spirit in December 1973, I prophesied and had other obvious evidences of what happened. But, having never heard of tongues, I wasn’t open to that for several weeks and got some teaching on the matter. Then my prayer language flowed fluently. Now, I do agree that for many, if not most, tongues is the initial evidence.

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      Charisma is the quality of being able to attract, charm and influence those around you. //

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      Lest I have judged wrongly can you plse give me a verse or incident in the Bible with the word Charisma?

    • Reply January 30, 2020

      Varnel Watson

      we NEED the HOLY GHOST !

  • Reply January 29, 2020

    Varnel Watson

    oh brother Michael Ellis Carter Jr. dont get me started

  • Reply January 31, 2020

    Daniel J Hesse

    Concur especially prophecy
    Only a few words too-intelligible ones.

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