John Kissinger [12/02/2015 2:12 PM]
110 years series beginning in Feb. 2016 on http://cupandcross.com/diamonds-in-the-rough-and-ready-pentecostal-series/
Peter A Vandever [12/02/2015 2:15 PM]
Series? Not sure what this has to do with the 1907 prophetic word?
John Kissinger [12/02/2015 2:17 PM]
A lot – just look and you will see. I would love to take you on it later but for right now I’ll just say that you’ll be dead wrong if you go against Pentecostal restoration. After all even Charles Page page went back to primitivism 🙂 http://www.amazon.com/Pentecostal-Primitivism-Preserved-Donev-D-Min/dp/1477557539
Peter A Vandever [12/02/2015 2:19 PM]
Linkbait it is lol
Link Hudson [12/02/2015 3:11 PM]
Did someone call me? I don’t agree that God is never into heritage. In the Old Testament, there are repeated reminders about God calling Israel out of Egypt. Every year, the Israelites were to have festivals where they would live in booths, eat unleavened bread, etc. which reminded every generation of the Exodus. Purim remembered the events of Esther. Jesus went to the festival of lights, which remembered the purifying of the temple during the intertestamental period.
I do think there is a place for heritage. But we are to ‘contend for the faith which was once delivered to the saints’ and Jesus said to teach what He had commanded. So the heritage we should really look at is Biblical heritage, and we can appreciate aspects of history along the way. Restoring Azusa Street isn’t enough.
Peter A Vandever [12/02/2015 3:14 PM]
Remembering what God has done and trying to return to where you have been is two different matters.
John Kissinger [12/02/2015 3:40 PM]
A church which has lost its memory of the past
can only wander aimlessly in the present
and despair in its future”
~ John A. Sims
Peter A Vandever [12/02/2015 3:41 PM]
Where did I say lose sight of the past? Nowhere.
John Kissinger [12/02/2015 3:45 PM]
Acts 1:6 “Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore…” hm let’s see here: seems Pentecost as a restoration is the never ending topic of Acts and the New Testament
John Kissinger [12/03/2015 8:28 AM]
apart from this old video I really did not find much on the subject https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdD2RfcJXp0
John Kissinger [12/03/2015 8:31 AM]
obviously disregarding the Tommy Welchel telling it – BTW did you hear Tommy Welchel in person or just saw the interviews?
Peter A Vandever [12/03/2015 8:32 AM]
I met him a few years ago. Good guy but I have my questions about the prophetic word… that I pointed out.l
John Kissinger [12/03/2015 8:33 AM]
So I remember when it came out around 2009-2010 but I dont understand why the interest today? It’s already beyond past and BTW many claim Frank Bartleman was the one who prophesied the 100 year renewal
John Kissinger [12/03/2015 8:38 AM]
Oh and how can we miss the Liardon cover version: In 1909, after the initial 1000 day glory outpouring in Azusa street, W. Seymour prophesied that God would restore the glory in 100 years. It would take 100 . http://wn.com/william_j_seymour_charles_parham_great_azusa_street_revival
Peter A Vandever [12/03/2015 9:09 AM]
The prophecy as I understand was “about 100 years” and that could be anything from Toronto onward.
John Kissinger [12/03/2015 9:12 AM]
well since we’re now abut 110 yrs…