politics July 18, 2016 How many Christians have already voted for #TRUMP? Posted by in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post How many Christians have already voted for #TRUMP? christianstrumpvoted Previous articleDigital vs. Printed NIV Versions Next articlePentecostals Praying to Saints? 100 Comments Reply April 7, 2016 Carl Murphy What difference does it make? Reply April 7, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr We wonder why this country keeps going down the drain when we look to man to solve our problems Reply April 11, 2016 Troy Day This may be important for David M. Hinsen and Stan Wayne who probably already voted in the primary David Lewayne Porter https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-portrait-of-trump-the-donor-free-rounds-of-golf-but-no-personal-cash/2016/04/10/373b9b92-fb40-11e5-9140-e61d062438bb_story.html?wpisrc=nl_az_most Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne I am for Trump because we need someone unconnected to the entrenched system to accomplish several tasks like building a wall – what is so complicated about that – Reply April 11, 2016 Troy Day Stan Wayne And when he looses NY this Th? David Lewayne Porter Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr Cruz is not part of the establishment. All the career policitican hate this man with a vengeance in Washington. How many of us had memorized the Constitution at age 13. He was the main reason that the Ten Commandments are still displayed in texas. I could go on and on, although I will day this, if Trump is elected president his Supporters will be as shocked as Obama’s were when his true colors were displayed. His is a wolve in sheep clothing, he is no different than the Clinton’s. And how can a Christian who claims to be led of the Holy Spirit support a man who claims he needs no salvation and is so immoral that he has had several affairs, especially when the Apostle Paul lists sexual immorality at the top of the list in I Corn. And in Galatians Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter So he is not spotless – which I knew, he is not perfect. He is good some and bad some. He is a deal MAKER, and yes a deal BREAKER. I have done all I can concerning trump, I votes against him. So until and unless he is the nominee I have nothing else to do with or about him. [Although there was a couple of interesting points concerning how most people view his children and family that was brought to my attention. I will need to verify those first]. Reply April 11, 2016 Troy Day Grover Katzmarek Sr Do you mean lyin’ Ted? http://endingthefed.com/woman-destroys-lyin-ted.html Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne I support Trump as President but not as a pastor – I don’t think Cruz can get the labor support necessary – It is a nationalism issue – the US is not the Kingdom but can be friendly to the Kingdom – Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Shame on us for expecting less from some leaders than others (whether in the church or out). That is why we are in the shape that we are in. Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne I don’t know what you are talking about at all – the scripture supports the idea of competence in the job – would you want an incompetent Christian like Jimmy Carter or a competent persons whose faith was hard to determine like Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, Bush, Roosevelt etc Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Stan Wayne Give me a real question. That one was weak at best. Do you consider a man a Christian that had a subscription to playboy before and while he was running for office? (Carter by name). Here is a question for you. Do you trust the man or God? Did not Jesus say that “John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” We are also told that He will teach us all things. Maybe you forgot Joseph, Daniel, the 3 Hebrew boys. Maybe that is the issue with the nation (and since you asked me personally) and you. Maybe people that say they trust God don’t unless He moves as they feel He should. Here is one for you. Vote for hillary then, she has more experience in politics and Washington than trump, or does she not fit the bill as one that you think God can use? I have had to do things for the church, my home, and for my employment that I had no idea how to do. I would pray for guidance and go to sleep. I would dream in detail how to do it. When it was time to do the task I would act out the dream exactly and it came out perfectly, as if a professional had preformed the tasks. My answer, In everything, everyday, in every situation give me a person lead by God over anyone else. So then Where is your faith? Must not be in GOD. Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Ad hominem ad hominem – so you only support Christians for President? Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter (( IF )) ad hominem, ad hominem – there us one offered, yes, correct, exactly. And just so you can’t throw him up, cruz has truly disappointed me here of late, but still trump will never get my vote. Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr That is unfounded. The comes from the liberal media Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne What is unfounded? Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr Lyin Ted Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Un-restrained trump Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr Our morals in this country and the church has so sadly went to the dumps look for example what we accept today to when Nixon was in office. Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne I don’t know about whether Ted lied over the Carson thing or not – I know Trump likes to typecast opponents but Trump is a strong America first nationalist – Ted was for TPP – the kind of thing that is killing US industry Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Nixon was very immoral Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne As were Kennedy Roosevelt etc Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr Quite possibly Kennedy would have been a Republican if he were still alive Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne The primary in NY is Tuesday April 19 Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Kennedy style democrats are also who support Trump – they are not comfortable as democrats or republicans now Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr What happens if Cruz wins there? Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Where Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne If Cruz gets 1237 delegates he wins Reply April 11, 2016 Grover Katzmarek Sr In NY Reply April 11, 2016 Troy Day I call #TRUMP loosing in NY this Th 🙂 David Lewayne Porter Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne The election is Tuesday so you should be stoned to death today for that call 😉 Reply April 11, 2016 Carl Murphy Trump will likely get the 50% in New York to when them all, if he does then he only has to when about 50% of the remaining, and he will do well in CT, RI where there are few evangelicals, I know I lived in Rhode Island and New Englanders are a different breed, he will also do well in PA and MD, that leaves Cruz the little states like SD, DE. and maybe IN depending on Kasich. Face it, Cruz is being used by the establishment to keep Trump under 1237, not to get Cruz to 1237. They want an open convention Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter I would expect trump to win NY since they are not cutting for president and the prevailing morality there. (I mean he ain’t a pastor right?) He fits in perfectly, Give me a break. Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Don’t know what you think a good president is – a spiritual person? What would be a good surgeon or pilot? A spiritual man? Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Ok I will take your argument,.. and trump knows national defense, national economics, trump has been in all the places and had the training for the office that he is running for and all that it entails? Your argument defeats your own candidate because the standards you put forth of others he does not possess for a nation. Eventually you are going to run into that he has to wing it. You have to have faith that he can pull it off. He has no political experience and the only way he has been able to get politicians to work with him is by paying them off (contributions – to be politically correct). Those that refuse him in business transactions – by his record, gets sued or ran over in bureaucracy. So much for being able to work with others. Is that the experience you are talking about. He calls ted a liar, trump contradicts himself and often within the same speech. But for trump it is changing his position and over looking things while for others it is lying. I don’t need trump and he will never get my vote against anyone. Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne We have been waiting for a citizen – a non establishment non politician because they have been terrible Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Agreed, but I don’t think trump is the answer. I agree that a lot of what he says needs to happen, I just don’t think that he is the one to do it. I believe he will sell us citizens out to the establishment if that is,what it takes for him to look good like he is getting things done. That is all I am saying. His record backs that up. Reply April 11, 2016 Terry Wiles David Lewayne Porter Trump might. But all the rest of them will. Just close your eyes and pull any lever. Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Terry Wiles I have already voted, voted for cruz, and I did so with both eyes WIDE Open. Reply April 11, 2016 Terry Wiles David Lewayne Porter 👍 Reply April 11, 2016 Carl Murphy I respect a guy that makes a mistake and admits it Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Lol, we will see where the mistake comes into play. Hold your breath friend. 😉 Reply April 11, 2016 Carl Murphy David Lewayne Porter yes, when Hillary wins and the senate flips Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter (Well, let me take the stance of some others) If it be God’s will, I guess it will happen. (Yawn, cough) Reply April 11, 2016 Carl Murphy Neither Trump not Cruz will beat Hillary, barring an act of God or the FBI Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne You don’t know the power of Trump to attack – we shall see Reply April 11, 2016 Carl Murphy I know the power of the ballot box Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne A good president now would only need to build a WALL Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter So a wall fixes everything? Only a wall. Wow, I am so glad you got it all figured up into one issue, why don’t you run then? Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne That is ALL he would need to accomplish to be very great in this hour – but fair trade, support for Syrian Christians, non support for Syrian Muslims, tax change, repatriation of overseas investment, stopping China and Japan from taking advantage, ending remittances south of border – all would make even a non Christian president very very very great Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter That is not what you said is it? You said “ONLY NEED TO BUILD A WALL”. I see how quick that changed. Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Brother – you are not reading slowly and carefully enough Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter A good president now would only need to build a WALL Your entire post, What am I not reading slowly enough or carefully enough? Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Just vote – too much energy – pray for best man for God’s purposes to win Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter I did, I voted for cruz Reply April 11, 2016 Stan Wayne Ok I will vote Trump with my fam Tuesday Reply April 11, 2016 David Lewayne Porter Reply April 12, 2016 Troy Day Donald Trump has a big delegate problem and it seems he is just now figuring this out. Lots of talk but not enough votes https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/11/did-donald-trump-realize-he-has-a-big-delegate-problem-too-late/?wpisrc=nl_az_most Reply April 12, 2016 Stan Wayne We will see on Tuesday Reply April 12, 2016 Carl Murphy Not a Rush fan, but interesting read http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/04/11/on_the_third_ballot_cruz_will_find_out_what_it_s_like_to_be_trump Reply April 12, 2016 Stan Wayne Rush has lost all his loyalists who also listen to Michael Savage – this Trump phenom is bringing out the rino in the most unlikely places Reply April 12, 2016 Troy Day I was gonna say sth. about Cruz and Trump loosing to Clinton, but this is much better http://observer.com/2016/04/panama-papers-reveal-clintons-kremlin-connection/ Reply April 12, 2016 Carl Murphy Thing about it is this Troy, people have made up their minds on Hillary, there are very few that will change their minds. The question is how many anti Clinton folks or apathetic voters will show up at the polls? The republicans are all shooting each other, the dems are not. It will be like the last two presidential elections where the republicans are not excited, or their feelings are hurt and they simply sit at home. This election is like the election of 1860. There the democrats could not decide on a candidate so the party split, ran two extreme candidates, one on each end of the spectrum and then Bell ran on a “can’t we all just get along” ticket, the vote was split and the republican won while carrying less than 40% of the popular vote. There will be two republican parties this time as well, the one with a candidate on the ballot and the one that is not, whose supporters simply will not vote Reply April 18, 2016 Troy Day yeah, sorry about that http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-winner-november-trump-presidency-inspires-anxiety-poll/story?id=36555715 Reply June 26, 2016 Troy Day Richard A Hodges Jr. may have raised a valid point against Trump in another discussions. I too think Trump stands no chance But reading through all the comments from Angie Bolding McAlpin and Ruth Brigantti how do you think this fits prophetically our times? Should Pentecostals PRAY for TRUMP to become our president? Terry Wiles Stan Wayne http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/should-pentecostals-pray-for-donald-trumps-presidency/ John Ruffle Many were surprised how many Christians already voted Trump and many will be surprised how many Christians will vote Clinton Reply June 26, 2016 Stan Wayne The prognostications are nothing more than wishful thinking. Look at Brexit. Show me a prophet who predicts what he doesn’t want to happen. Reply June 26, 2016 Jon Ray Comparing apples to oranges today? Reply June 26, 2016 Stan Wayne It is a common anti immigration populist movement – apples to apples Reply June 26, 2016 Jon Ray Stan Wayne Aren’t you an immigrant yourself? Reply June 26, 2016 Stan Wayne Legal – some of my Scottish ancestors landed here and Canada while others such as great grandfather landed in Australia Reply June 26, 2016 Richard A Hodges Jr. I Believe you can pray and pray for Trump but until Trump comes to the True God and bends down to a higher power and ask for the forgiveness of the ignorance of his mouth and his actions on TV making fun of a Reporter with a Disability and calling Clinton Names and the list goes on! and what SHOCK’S me is that Christian’s are Falling for this man! and Liberty University gives him praise for what? being a Republican lol oh dear Christian’s i know its trouble times, but for your Question Troy Day I do think he has a part dealing with the End Times but not in a Good way ,He has lot’s of Money and to tell a man like that NO is not in his Nature to say yes, in Order for him to win is to keep Believing the trash that come’s out of that wicked tongue of his! I still can not believe any one of Faith would vote for him ,this is where i would say Evil comes in many ways , and if the Church would go back to its roots and learn how to live in the steps of Jesus and Tap into the Holy Ghost and when we have Church and we go in to praise and worship the one thing that i have noticed in the pentecostal church every service is planned out to what songs are played and how long they are played and if they dont stop the pastor will not get his lot of time ,what happen to the time where Worship was the center of the service and let the Holy Ghost take’s control again.and about Trump if any body Vote’s for Him ,its like giving the Devil the Keys to the kingdom. Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy So to be a true Christian he must do exactly as you say. How is that any different from the Pharisees saying you have to keep 600 rules to be a Jew? I thank God that I am not judged by man, or by man’s rules. I grew up thinking I’m going to hell if I go see Mary Poppins at the movies, or take my girl friend to the beach and a host of other crazy rule some uneducated Pentecostal preachers made up to so you can be holy. Holiness comes from within to the without not from without to within. I intend to vote for Trump because I don’t like Hillary and two I think Trump has been mistreated and I am a sucker for the underdog. I did not vote for him in the primary but I will do so now. Whether he bows, dances or simply stands in the presence of Jesus the Nazarene. Whether he praises God on the street corner or in the still quietness of alone at midnight. Reply June 27, 2016 Richard A Hodges Jr. G’Day Mate, I’m not Judging him I’m just pointing out some of the things he has doneI like mocking Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. I like to think that Jesus and the 12 told jokes, played jokes and enjoyed life. Not sat around just staring at the walls. Reply June 27, 2016 Richard A Hodges Jr. the reporter ,Trump is a Asshole point blank Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy And opinions as like the orifice mentioned, everyone has one and they all smell Reply June 27, 2016 Richard A Hodges Jr. Well yes I live in America half the year and THE ,nq other half in Australia where me and my boyfriend go to Hillsong’s Church Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy Gee in Zimbabwe you could get killed for that Reply June 26, 2016 John Ruffle Trump is going to be your next president. Get used to it. And get used to the ring of iron security detail he’ll be surrounded by. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Reply June 26, 2016 Richard A Hodges Jr. Well if he is going to be president then why are we having a election? and I don’t have to worry about America I may have been born here but my mother is a Aussie so I think Jesus everyday that I have Duel Citizenship Mate Reply June 26, 2016 Richard A Hodges Jr. And BTW John Ruffle if he needs that much iron to protect him why would you want some one like that running your country ? Reply June 26, 2016 Carl Murphy Honestly? The OP is Asinine Reply June 27, 2016 John Ruffle How can it be? The OP is a question. Reply June 27, 2016 Troy Day No it cant. It’s like asking how many Christians voted for BrExit. Calling names is always a sure sign of argument weakness Reply June 27, 2016 Troy Day The church has a definite political and social responsibility within society. The apostle Paul openly proclaimed the church’s triumphant political manifesto within the Roman Empire. Major part of the church fathers wrote about the church’s political place not only in this present world but within the scope of the eschatological reality as well. I would restrain calling any discussion on that Bible sanctioned validity asinine (extremely stupid or foolish). What may seem foolish to the world is not so for God. More importantly today Gainesville minister was named to Trump Evangelical Advisory Board http://accesswdun.com/article/2016/6/414319/gainesville-minister-named-to-trump-evangelical-advisory-board Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy I stand by my statement and I point you to the adiaphora. I refer you to Acts chapter 4 as to how the church is to act in society. I might add that “early church fathers” were mere men with their own political agenda. I missed Paul’s triumphant political manifesto. Reply June 27, 2016 Troy Day I can send you a paper on the manifesto but good point from Acts 4. Too bad Turmp will not win #unfortunately Stan David Lewayne Porter Reply June 27, 2016 Stan Wayne Wishful thinking Troy Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy So then Paul’s manifesto is not in the Bible. It’s just someone’s commentary. As to Trump, watch Ohio and Pennsylvania and you will know how the election will turn. Keep in mind a national opinion poll means nothing. So what if 75% of the people in California dislike Trump? There are 51 separate elections and all you need it a plurality in each. Reply June 27, 2016 John Ruffle Someone here wants Hilary? Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy LOL, after all she is a Methodist if in name only Reply June 27, 2016 John Ruffle Sure, and I am a Martian Reply June 27, 2016 Carl Murphy I am identifying this week as a sixteen year old. Reply June 28, 2016 Jon Ray Trump campaign openly admitted today running out of money https://secure.donaldjtrump.com/maga-hat-f?amount=25&utm_campaign=DJT_direct-ask_hat&utm_source=facebook&ad_flight=jun_16&utm_medium=ad&utm_content=FB_DON_DJT_221 Reply August 31, 2016 Jon Ray Donald Trump is about to meet the president of Mexico. Which of these tweets might they discuss? https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-is-about-to-meet-the-president-of-mexico-which-of-these-tweets-might-they-discuss/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=20160831feed_djtmex Reply August 31, 2016 Jim Price Here in my section of the country the vote has traditionally gone 74% to the republicans.The north Georgia mountains and all of east Tennessee are considered the most conservative districts in the United States.In the 1930’s millions were poured into the Tn. valley via the TVA to make it a beautiful and functional place.The war years brought millions more to the Oak Ridge and TNT installations.The 50’s brought us super highways and in the 60’s billions were allocated to update our school systems. Since then hundreds of big companies have moved in to take advantage of a compliant and better educated work force, albeit still with cheaper wages. All this has not changed the mindset. There is a great distrust of government in our DNA. All this to say that Trump will likely get a lot of votes, people will look over his three marriages or the fact that he operates gambling casinos including all the carnality that goes with them. We are `sot` in our ways! Reply October 17, 2016 Louise Cummings I haven’t voted yet. But I have every plan to vote Trump. Reply October 17, 2016 Charlie Robin https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScdLe5fbVw0d12MtiYcJCf-hLDjpr7AdiYTIkMBttqdLuTQbg/viewform Reply October 17, 2016 Louise Cummings Your choice. You will have to live with that decision. But your probley not going to like it. Leave a Reply Click here to cancel reply. Leave a Reply to Carl Murphy Cancel replyComment Name Email Website This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.