What the ESVcalls proud, the KJV calls rejoice

Posted by David John Maxfield in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

What the esv calls proud, the kjv calls rejoice. The difference? One is a sin of self righteousness which produces false doctrine and the other exaltation of Gods goodness.

Henry Volk [09/27/2015 6:21 AM]
I have no idea what you’re talking about…plus the attachment is unavailable.

David John Maxfield [09/27/2015 6:23 AM]

David John Maxfield [09/27/2015 6:23 AM]
Sorry, see picture Henry Volk

Brian Roden [09/27/2015 8:03 AM]
Specific verse references, please. And the picture is still unavailable. Check your FB permissions for others to see your pictures

David John Maxfield [09/27/2015 8:03 AM]
Philippians 2:16

David John Maxfield [09/27/2015 8:04 AM]
I just posted a picture in my previous comment ^^

David John Maxfield [09/27/2015 8:04 AM]

Brian Roden [09/27/2015 8:41 AM]
According to my Greek-English lexicon, the word ??????? means: boast, boasting, pride, joy, something to boast about.

I think the kind of pride here is more like that of a father who sees his kids turn out to be people who do right, that feeling of satisfaction that all he invested in them did not go to waste. Nothing sinful about that.

Byron Benefield [09/27/2015 8:56 AM]
I believe the meaning is clear. Good attempt though. There are plenty of other scriptures that show corruption in the MVs

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:14 AM]
The problem with comparing translations in this manner is first, the kjv has been setup to be what the other version is compared to when both are translations of another manuscript and there is an apparent kjv bias in the post. Hence the outcome was determined before the process.

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:18 AM]
Here is the textus receptus of Philippians 2:16 ????? ???? ?John Kissinger? ??????? ???? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ??????? ???? ??? ????? ????????

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:20 AM]
Here is the NA27 of Philippians 2:16 16 ?????? ????? ???????????, ???? John Kissinger???? ???? John Kissinger??????, ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?John Kissinger???? ???? ?????? ??????????.

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:22 AM]
One can see regardless of having mastered Greek that the critical text and the textus receptus are not in disagreement here.

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:23 AM]
My question for Byron Benefield and David John Maxfield is are there significant departures from the original text in either translation from the Greek mss presented here?

Byron Benefield [09/27/2015 9:26 AM]
In this case no.

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:28 AM]
Thank you Byron Benefield for your response.

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:32 AM]
I come from a 4th generation Pentecostal background that is strong on holiness and kjv only. Comparing modern versions to kjv is poor scholarship and shows a limited understanding of what constitutes effective and accurate translation work.

Byron Benefield [09/27/2015 9:38 AM]
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Henry Volk [09/27/2015 9:40 AM]
There are better transitions of the Textus Receptus out there, everyone knows that right?

Rick Carlton [09/27/2015 9:44 AM]
I have one question for the kjv only crowd namely, “Is the king james version kjv only?”

2 Comments

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    Grover Katzmarek Sr

    There are many mistranslations in the KJV along with many obsolete words. I believe that is one thing that is wrong today we don’t know the original language basically because we are 1lazy, 2 are addicted to the things of the world like TV for instance.

    Many of the bygone theologians taught themselves the original languages.

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    Michael Faber

    Would you rather have what God directed writers to write, or what the KJV says, which only confirms your theology?

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