Shepherd’s job and the Shepherd’s movement

Posted by Jim Price in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

The Shepherd’s job was to first protect the sheep, then to lead them to greener pastures as seasons change, to see that they have clean water to drink, to inspect them for injury and to apply ointment and or bind up their wounds. If we transfer this to the pastor’s role I can see a need for the pastor to caution his flock not to phone or text while driving and to cultivate the spiritual grace of patience while driving. Regarding pure water; to warn against porn and other things that bring impurity to the soul. Since retiring I have listened to 100’ds of sermons via the net and have yet to hear anyone speak to these issues.

Alan N Carla Smith [12/29/2015 11:19 AM]
Doesn’t it disturb you, with all the ear tickling preaching?

Alan N Carla Smith [12/29/2015 11:19 AM]
All the feel-good preaching…

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:46 AM]
The Shepherding Movement (sometimes called the “Discipleship Movement”) was a pyramid-shaped, multi-tiered organizational structure, which had at the top echelon of the pyramid (it just so happened) none other than the Fab Five themselves Peter A Vandever should blog about it in its charismatic blog

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 11:49 AM]
I have openly talked about it. It is now called the “covering” crap

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:50 AM]
They rightfully claimed to be in “submission” to each other, which arrangement, they purported, acted as a fail-safe “checks and balance” system to totally preclude them from falling prey to the corruptible properties of absolute power

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 11:50 AM]
I need to work on it http://latterrains.com/john-bevere-and-his-heresies/

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:51 AM]
worked with JB and wife while they ministered in E. Europe

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 11:54 AM]
Their teaching at sherperding movement

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:55 AM]
Not really. They are way far distanced in time and theology. But now Derek Prince had some substantial theological contributions apart from the shepherding theology

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 12:00 PM]
Ever read his book Under Cover?

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 12:01 PM]
have to check the translated title – but have ready everything Prince on demons, curses, Hebrews 6, family, ministry and much more

Jim Price [12/29/2015 7:25 PM]
The COG used to have a slogan that I liked a lot: ” The whole gospel for the whole man; mind, body and spirit.” When I think of shepherding I think of mind, body and spirit. The goal is to bring about wholeness and not just holiness. Our churches today have to many weak and untrained minds, to many sick bodies and to many wounded spirits. Only the most skilled and spirit empowered pastors can bring about the needed change.

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 8:32 PM]
How does one heal a wounded spirit?

Alan N Carla Smith [12/29/2015 9:39 PM]
Good question John Kissinger

Jim Price [12/30/2015 10:40 AM]
I think back in my years as a pastor and remember ( 1 ) A young wife with two small children and knew that her husband was cheating on her, she had no skills and lived 300 miles from her parents, I intervened and talked with him but then he stopped her from coming to church. ( 2 ) The most beautiful young woman in our congregation was in a car wreck and thrown into the windshield ( before seat belts ) and smashed up her face, wounding the spirits of her whole family and even the church. Back then we still believed that bad things didn’t happen to good people. I can recall many more incidents where spirits were wounded. It is one of a pastors most difficult jobs.

Alan N Carla Smith [12/30/2015 3:50 PM]
That still didn’t answer the question John Kissinger asked.
Personally, I think only GOD can heal a wounded spirit.
and that’s AFTER the person with the wounded heart removes ALL obstacles to intimacy with God.

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  • Reply June 21, 2017

    Louise Cummings

    I liked the professor that was teaching from the books of the Bible. He was i Exodus the last time I heard him. I can’t find Him any
    More. I can’t remember his name.

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Shepherd’s job and the Shepherd’s movement

Posted by in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

The Shepherd’s job was to first protect the sheep, then to lead them to greener pastures as seasons change, to see that they have clean water to drink, to inspect them for injury and to apply ointment and or bind up their wounds. If we transfer this to the pastor’s role I can see a need for the pastor to caution his flock not to phone or text while driving and to cultivate the spiritual grace of patience while driving. Regarding pure water; to warn against porn and other things that bring impurity to the soul. Since retiring I have listened to 100’ds of sermons via the net and have yet to hear anyone speak to these issues.

Alan N Carla Smith [12/29/2015 11:19 AM]
Doesn’t it disturb you, with all the ear tickling preaching?

Alan N Carla Smith [12/29/2015 11:19 AM]
All the feel-good preaching…

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:46 AM]
The Shepherding Movement (sometimes called the “Discipleship Movement”) was a pyramid-shaped, multi-tiered organizational structure, which had at the top echelon of the pyramid (it just so happened) none other than the Fab Five themselves Peter A Vandever should blog about it in its charismatic blog

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 11:49 AM]
I have openly talked about it. It is now called the “covering” crap

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:50 AM]
They rightfully claimed to be in “submission” to each other, which arrangement, they purported, acted as a fail-safe “checks and balance” system to totally preclude them from falling prey to the corruptible properties of absolute power

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 11:50 AM]
I need to work on it http://latterrains.com/john-bevere-and-his-heresies/

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:51 AM]
worked with JB and wife while they ministered in E. Europe

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 11:54 AM]
Their teaching at sherperding movement

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 11:55 AM]
Not really. They are way far distanced in time and theology. But now Derek Prince had some substantial theological contributions apart from the shepherding theology

Peter A Vandever [12/29/2015 12:00 PM]
Ever read his book Under Cover?

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 12:01 PM]
have to check the translated title – but have ready everything Prince on demons, curses, Hebrews 6, family, ministry and much more

Jim Price [12/29/2015 7:25 PM]
The COG used to have a slogan that I liked a lot: ” The whole gospel for the whole man; mind, body and spirit.” When I think of shepherding I think of mind, body and spirit. The goal is to bring about wholeness and not just holiness. Our churches today have to many weak and untrained minds, to many sick bodies and to many wounded spirits. Only the most skilled and spirit empowered pastors can bring about the needed change.

John Kissinger [12/29/2015 8:32 PM]
How does one heal a wounded spirit?

Alan N Carla Smith [12/29/2015 9:39 PM]
Good question John Kissinger

Jim Price [12/30/2015 10:40 AM]
I think back in my years as a pastor and remember ( 1 ) A young wife with two small children and knew that her husband was cheating on her, she had no skills and lived 300 miles from her parents, I intervened and talked with him but then he stopped her from coming to church. ( 2 ) The most beautiful young woman in our congregation was in a car wreck and thrown into the windshield ( before seat belts ) and smashed up her face, wounding the spirits of her whole family and even the church. Back then we still believed that bad things didn’t happen to good people. I can recall many more incidents where spirits were wounded. It is one of a pastors most difficult jobs.

Alan N Carla Smith [12/30/2015 3:50 PM]
That still didn’t answer the question John Kissinger asked.
Personally, I think only GOD can heal a wounded spirit.
and that’s AFTER the person with the wounded heart removes ALL obstacles to intimacy with God.

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