Reading on ecclesiology

Posted by David M. Hinsen in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

Here is one of my assignments for my theology class this week: “Based on your reading on ecclesiology, develop and write out your own theology of the church.” Somebody is about to get an eye full! I’m so distraught over the pharisaical religion and the controlling Jezebel spirit that is functioning in our churches today. People will split, and resort to fist fights over carpet, but won’t lift a finger to do any ministry, let alone witness to an unbeliever, and the Great Commission is reduced to “print” on a flyer. The church has become a museum full of experienced curators with loud mouths that yield no action, only threats, and the devil is dancing. I’m afraid we’ve become so concerned with our comfort and control that we’ve drowned out the voice of God. The church refuses to change it’s methods, and sits back and watches an entire generation fade away because “we’ve never done it that way”, or “we don’t like that” is more important than lost souls. So important it is, that we refuse to see it and place blame elsewhere. It’s always someone else’s fault. Keep in mind, though, that there is no room for compromise and the message never changes, but while we’re busy taking a vote on moving a potted plant 5 feet, people are dying and going to hell. Yes, there are still some good churches out there, but something is sorely wrong when the fact that no one is being saved week in and week out doesn’t drive us to tears. I feel like pulling a Jesus in the temple, but for now, more school work. Oh, and if I made you mad, good. Maybe that’s what you needed. Am I being too harsh? Maybe John the Baptist or some of the prophets of old could answer that better than I.

Greg Robinson [02/19/2015 4:33 PM]
Is this an “ecclesiastical theology” or an observation?

David M. Hinsen [02/19/2015 4:35 PM]
observation, righteously indignant post…you can call it what you want,lol

Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 4:35 PM]
Is it true we speak much of Jezabels but not enough about Ahabs spirit in the Pentecostal churches? http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/on-the-spirit-of-ahab/

David M. Hinsen [02/19/2015 4:36 PM]
Yes, wherever there’s a Jezebel, there’s an Ahab

David M. Hinsen [02/19/2015 4:36 PM]
But not a ecclesiastical theology Greg Robinson

Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 4:37 PM]
So true. There’s got to be an Ahab to allow Jezabel in the church

Greg Robinson [02/19/2015 4:40 PM]
Love it…!

David M. Hinsen [02/19/2015 4:41 PM]
Greg Robinson, I didn’t copy the last sentence from my post for some reason that’s says this isn’t ecclesiastical theology, but a rough draft that will lead to my ecclesiastical theology. I’m following spaghetti noodles here my friend!

David M. Hinsen [02/19/2015 4:43 PM]
I added it

Charles Page [02/19/2015 4:48 PM]
we can change the color of the carpet even with bickering however we cannot change an unregenerate till God acts in regenerating then we can discuss changes.

4 Comments

  • Reply April 12, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Love it! Greg Robinson David Lewayne Porter

    • Reply April 12, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      The church is funny,
      One of my friends says, “you will not find another organism like it anywhere”.

      One of my wife’s uncles says, “the church is weird. They get upset and mad and hold grudges forever. He says, “they say that they forgive and yet will stop talking.” He then adds, “I can go to the bar, we get mad, we go outside and fight it out. We pick each other up, dust each other off, and go inside to buy rounds of drinks.”

      Sadly, he is actually kind of right.

      Our church has two issues, 1) the temperature, 2) the drums are too loud. But we have not come to fights over it. A couple fusses but we got through them.

      Now 3 years ago we did lose 15 people because we would not live like we did in 1962. After 2 years as pastor, after what I thought was building relationships, I started making changes slowly. Those that did not like them, handed in letters to be removed from the membership and left peaceably and quietly.

  • Reply April 12, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Troy Day liked this on Facebook.

  • Reply April 13, 2016

    Roger David

    A quick study of the word church is very revealing. The word for church as translated in most translations is Ekklesia. This is mistranslated. The word church actually came from the word Kuriakos. This means “of the Lord:” and is only found twice in the bible.

    The true word we should be using is Ekklesia. This is properly translated as the assembly of the called out ones.

    You want to do a study on the church then you will be doing a study on the assembly of the called out ones. Not the seeker sensitive hirelings. Not the megabucks social clubs. Just the assembly of those that were called out of the darkness and now dwell in the light.

    http://www.aggressivechristianity.net/articles/ecclesia.htm

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