Is Athanasius’ translation of Isaiah 9:6 supportable?

Is Athanasius’ translation of Isaiah 9:6 supportable?

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Athanasius of Alexandria translates :

… the everlasting father … [Isaiah 9:6 KJV]

as :

… Father of the coming age … [‘On Luke 10:22’ from Select Works and Letters (1) ].

I notice that Robert Young translates this as :

… Father of eternity … [YLT].

Does the Hebrew (Masoretic Text) support Athanasius’ rendering ?


(1) Page 266 of Select Works and Letters

23 Comments

  • Reply October 28, 2025

    Troy Day

    @followers John Mushenhouse Glynn Brown Jose Salinas Jared Cheshire Terry Wiles I DO support in his stance: A Christian is the one who accepts The Trinity https://www.pentecostaltheology.com/a-christian-is-the-one-who-accepts-the-trinity/

    • Reply October 28, 2025

      Troy Day

      William DeArteaga Philip Williams Paul King Eddie L. Hyatt and other @followers MAY remember when Roger Forster formed based on this The Ichthus Christian Fellowship The Development Of A Charismatic Missiology https://www.pentecostaltheology.com/roger-forster-and-the-ichthus-christian-fellowship-the-development-of-a-charismatic-missiology/

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Philip Williams

        Troy Day wasn’t that somehow connected to the Shepherds movement?

    • Reply October 28, 2025

      Jose Salinas

      Troy Day Good to know. What about the oneness folks?

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Troy Day

        Jose Salinas more oneness align with pre-trib than trinitarians
        JUST ASK Philip Williams Jared Cheshire Bishop Bernie L Wade Jevan Little

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Jose Salinas

        Troy Day Daniel Seagraves and David K Bernard don’t

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Troy Day

        Jose Salinas you are heretical @ best !!! DTScrap

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Jose Salinas

        Troy Day But am I right?

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Jared Cheshire

        Troy Day I don’t know why any intelligent person uses the word rapture to begin with. It’s a vile accusation against our Messiah.

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Bishop Bernie L Wade

        It is an interesting debate. I am not sure whether there was another agenda but it does not present as a severe challenge to the whole of Scripture. Adam Clarke wrote it this way: The everlasting Father – “The Father of the everlasting age”] Or אבי עד Abi ad, the Father of eternity. The Septuagint have μεγαλης βουλης Αγγελος, “the Messenger of the Great Counsel.” But instead of אבי עד Abi ad, a MS. of De Rossi has אבעזר Abezer, the helping Father; evidently the corruption of some Jew, who did not like such an evidence in favour of the Christian Messiah.

    • Reply October 28, 2025

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day a Christian who obtains salvation is one who trusts in Jesus Christ. There is no other way by which one can be saved.

    • Reply October 28, 2025

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day the Council of Nicea did not die for your sins. If you make it your God, you are an idolater.

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Troy Day

        Philip Williams you are twisting the chUrch dads like John Mushenhouse showed us that Glynn Brown was twisting them to say what he wants REF the topic on Revelation and the other one on Dan?Rev Jose Salinas stayed away from knowing his DTS heresy will NOT fly there

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Philip Williams

        Troy Day let’s stick with sola scriptura and the perspicuity of the Scriptures!

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Jose Salinas

        Troy Day So we trinitarians should accept oneness as brothers? 🤔

        • Reply October 28, 2025

          John Mushenhouse

          Jose Salinas is denying who/what Jesus is ( a divine person in a trinitarian Godhead) denial of who Jesus is and thus excludes one from salvation. Is it not just a form of Godliness, but it is a denial of Biblical truth. The question is how far can one get before they have not the faith once delivered to the saints and thus no salvation. I agree we must have mercy on those who doubt as Jude says, but mercy is not saying one is right or in the Kingdom. Jude tells us to yank some from the fire.

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Troy Day

        Jose Salinas WHO is we trinitarians ? Philip Williams is NOT 1

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Philip Williams

        Troy Day there is one intercessor between God and man, Christ Jesus. The Holy Spirit intercedes. Hence, the Holy Spirit is Jesus!

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Glynn Brown

        Troy Day stop lying,John didn’t show us anything of the sort. I proved the exact opposite.

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Glynn Brown

        Philip Williams arguing with Troy Day is like arguing with a child.

      • Reply October 28, 2025

        Glynn Brown

        Philip Williams I showed how Troy Day lied and made the false claim that all of the church fathers agreed with him on the authorship of Revelation and the gospel of John. He’s an embarrassment for Pentecostals.

  • Reply October 28, 2025

    Vijay Babu

    Hi.. greetings from India 🇮🇳

  • Reply October 28, 2025

    Bishop Charles Alochi

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