What many do not realize, like Moses, is their deliverance is not for them; it is through them. Moses was not delivered just for him own good; he was delivered for the people of God.
Charles Page [08/18/2015 6:40 PM]
I believe what you are saying, Peter, however through an Amillennial lens if not pretist (partial pretist) What we are supposed to be doing today is very far removed from what we should be doing
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 6:45 PM]
I am not Amillennial
John Kissinger [08/18/2015 7:46 PM]
historical preterist maybe?
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 7:48 PM]
I believe in the Blessed Hope.
John Kissinger [08/18/2015 7:49 PM]
Do you mean eternal security? Titus 2:13 while we wait for the blessed hope
Charles Page [08/18/2015 8:03 PM]
I was not implying you were a-mil, Peter. I did not know.
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 8:04 PM]
I am Pentecostal. We are Pre-Trib
Charles Page [08/18/2015 8:08 PM]
many are mid and post trib and some are post-mil
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 8:09 PM]
they arent Pentecostal then lol
Charles Page [08/18/2015 8:12 PM]
are all AOG pre-trib?
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 8:12 PM]
#13 Truth lol
Walter Polasik [08/18/2015 8:17 PM]
How does one determine one’s Pentecostal standing on the basis of ESCHATOLOGY! There are many Baptists, Presbyterians etc. who differ on eschatology. That doesn’t make them “un-Christian” or “un-evangelical”.
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 8:18 PM]
I am not even sure why it is a subject here….we are talking the river of God lol
John Kissinger [08/18/2015 10:02 PM]
Walter Polasik but that could make them LEFT BEHIND right?
Timothy Carter [08/18/2015 10:25 PM]
Bob Jones of Bob Jones University, Greenville, SC ? That man haha! Him have a dream about the people of God. He didn’t know who the people of God are. He Hates Pentecostals as much OR more than John McArthur does. In the Library at Holmes Bible College in Greenville, SC a Pentecostal Theological College, there is a section dedicated to stories about things Bob Jones said about Holmes because they are Pentecostal. He is dead and buried and burning in Hell still Hateful and not understanding who the people of God are. But Peter A Vanederever want us to believe that the person in Hell is telling us that God is speaking about a river?
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 10:27 PM]
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 10:29 PM]
Charles Page [08/18/2015 10:30 PM]
Timothy was perhaps referencing the fundamentalist Bob Jones. Lee University was purchased from Bob Jones in Cleveland Tennessee -now Walker Hall
Charles Page [08/18/2015 10:33 PM]
historical premillennialism and the modern day “river of life” are contradictory
Peter A Vandever [08/18/2015 10:33 PM]
not at all, charles
Timothy Carter [08/18/2015 10:39 PM]
I was very clear. I said Bob Jones University. Charles page is correct that is in fact the one in the same. When the hypocrite Bob Jones of Bob Jones University owned this properly that Lee University is now standing on he told Rev Billy Gram that he was not called of God. See this man don’t know God or his people.