The Gospel of John describes a scene where John the Baptist saw Jesus coming toward him and he made the following statement:
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is
the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed
me because he was before me.’ I myself did not know him, but the
reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to
Israel.” Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down
from heaven as a dove and remain on him. And I myself did not know
him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man
on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one.” (John
1:29-34)
At first sight, it seems the writer was describing the actual baptism itself, as per Matthew’s account. However, the next few days finds Jesus choosing his disciples – not going into the wilderness as the Synoptics relate it. So, is this scene a ‘revisit’ so to speak? Is it Jesus coming out of the wilderness, walking past John, at about Passover season, some months following his actual baptism?
If so, then the Gospel of John is not recording the baptism event directly, but is recording John B’s testimony of that event. In other words, John B. sees Jesus returning, and calls out, “This is the man I baptised several months ago! This is the man the dove descended upon!”
So, is the Gospel of John recording the actual baptism event, or is he recording an occasion when Jesus revisited the same place on his way back from the wilderness? The latter explanation may reconcile some of the perceived differences between John and the Synoptic Gospels.
Varnel Watson
tell us Daniel J Hesse Dan Brent
Dan Brent
Absolutely not, as long as it is done in praise and not to draw attention to one’s self. These people ever heard of a praise break? ?
Dan Brent
If it comes from the joy of the Lord, it is more than fitting to dance before Him.
Varnel Watson
Dan Brent you do it ALL the time dont ya?
Dan Brent
Troy Day: https://youtu.be/OFFVM2DzUHE
Varnel Watson
Dan Brent cant open – what is it now?
Paul L. King
Many churches, pastors, and worshippers don’t understand the biblical pattern of worship based on the tabernacle/temple. We begin with outer court worship–“Enter His gates with thanksgiving & His courts with praise.” Here we dance, shout, and are expressive in worship in demonstrable ways. The Holy Place is the place of consecration with more reverence, the Holy of Holies is the place of awe and adoration, sometimes in stillness or in slow melodic dance. Then we usually end back out in the outer courts, ending in the outer court with praise and dance once again.
Varnel Watson
do you have a teaching showing the pattern ?
Paul L. King
Troy Day I do—called entering the Holy of Holies.
Varnel Watson
Paul L. King I only have the CD but not an actual article – not that I can find at least
Isara Mo
No comment but I have. a question:
Did the apostles do this kind of praise and worship we have in our services today?.Is there an incident in the Book of Acts whence they did this besides Paul and Silas praising and worshiping while in custody?
In the past I used to spend nights at discoes enjoying the music. I loved rumba and soukous blues and reggae dances with its freestyle wriggling and wiggling moves..(We African love vigorous dancing..)
Then I came to church and found that location is different but the beats are the same to the ones I left in the world although the LYRICS are different..
When the time for praise and worship commences I just find myself very excited… and really,, “enjoys” the music.. Unfortunately most of the times whem the music session ends I find my concentration on service wandering.. especially when it is time to hear the WORD..
Could this be sign of the old man in me or what…?
Ray E Horton
Maybe if your are among God’s “frozen chosen.”
Varnel Watson
maybe to BETHEL and all the rest Alan Smith
Alan Smith
Troy Day guess so
Varnel Watson
some still do it
Neil Steven Lawrence
King David, one of the 24 Elders, will probly teach you a few moves!
George Hartwell
Wish I had the energy!
Varnel Watson
the force is strong with you !