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David John Maxfield | PentecostalTheology.com
Could the dome of the rock be the abomination of desolation? ?
John Kissinger [09/18/2015 11:11 PM]
But according to Jewish tradition, Mount Moriah, now under the Dome of the Rock, is where the Temple’s Holy of Holies was situated. http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/Can-Third-Temple-be-built-without-destroying-Dome-of-the-Rock
Alan N Carla Smith [09/18/2015 11:20 PM]
I believe that some archaeologist will discover that the actually Temple/Holy of Holies was built near this area but not exactly under the Dome of the Rock and that will satisfy both traditions. Then the 3rd temple can be constructed in just a matter of months! “the Temple Institute has been working day and night for the past 23 years to create everything that the inside of the Temple will need. So you might say that the hard part is already done.”
John Kissinger [09/18/2015 11:20 PM]
Near or even UNDER? and build it under the dome…
Alan N Carla Smith [09/18/2015 11:21 PM]
near…. just beside the existing Dome
John Kissinger [09/18/2015 11:24 PM]
The Temple Institute has in recent years determined that they can in fact build the temple under the Dome without destroying it. Some claim to have information that the Arc of the Covenant is already located there
Alan N Carla Smith [09/18/2015 11:25 PM]
if ANYONE destroys the Dome; I don’t believe the Muslims will stand aside and ‘allow’ the Jews to build the 3rd Temple. UNLESS the Dome is destroyed during Armageddon and the 3rd Temple is built before the 1,000 yr reign. (I don’t believe this either)
John Kissinger [09/18/2015 11:26 PM]
that’s what they’re saying – build it under the Dome but without destroying it. Underground technology is already there…
Alan N Carla Smith [09/18/2015 11:27 PM]
oh.. I see what you’re saying now. Do you really think that Yehovah will want HIS Temple built under ground?? I don’t! We will see!!! Jubilee is upon us and maybe Yehovah will GIVE Israel back the promised land!!! Hallelujah
Jon Sellers [09/18/2015 11:48 PM]
Building a temple in Jerusalem is a false hope. We are the temple. Man may build a temple of brick and mortar, but that will not be from God.
Jon Sellers [09/18/2015 11:48 PM]
The body of Christ is the fulfillment of temple prophecies.
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:22 AM]
not sure if the Jews recognize the temple that way?
David John Maxfield [09/19/2015 2:26 AM]
If the jews built the temple, would it not take them further away from Christ?
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:27 AM]
not if Christ returns IN the newly built temple – that would be closer
David John Maxfield [09/19/2015 2:28 AM]
Revelations tells us that his temple , the New Jerusalem is built in heaven and will decend out of Heaven upon his return
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:29 AM]
so are you saying it will sit on the Dome?
David John Maxfield [09/19/2015 2:30 AM]
I’m not sure what will happen there, all I know is no Muslim will share the dome or the Holy Land with the Jews and neither will the jews share it with the Muslims. They have hated each other like Cain and Abel from the beginning.
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:31 AM]
like in the movie “Independence Day” there’s you a reason why Pentecostals were not allowed in the movies back in the day of Charles Page You give a Pentecostal too much imagination and the heavenly temple lands on the Dome…
David John Maxfield [09/19/2015 2:31 AM]
And to be honest if they don’t accept Jesus by the time he returns and the new Jerusalem decend out of Heaven then they won’t have any temple at all because if they haven’t accepted Christ then they will be in Hell
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:32 AM]
Romans says they will accept Jesus in one day as a nation š
David John Maxfield [09/19/2015 2:32 AM]
Hahaha well let’s hope and pray š God wishes that none should perish but that all should come to repentance and knowledge of the truth.
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:33 AM]
aren’t you glad you watched independent day and not judgment day? then you may have seen Jesus as the #terminator
David John Maxfield [09/19/2015 2:35 AM]
All I know is that there will be a judgement day, and we are told to be ready š
John Kissinger [09/19/2015 2:36 AM]
well being ready is to know if the Judge is Dred, Arnold or Trump http://dishnation.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-to-replace-donald-trump/
Gerald Creasy [09/19/2015 3:59 AM]
If a new temple is ever made the priest who offers sacrifice is The Antichrist, because The New Testament tells us REPEATEDLY that Jesus is the High Priest FOREVER and that his sacrifice is final. A new temple High Priest would be giving the middle finger to the atoning work of Jesus Christ
Christopher Hart [09/19/2015 6:40 AM]
I think the dome of the rock is at least an abomination of desolation. Not sure if it is the AOD.
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley does your deep state 9 has to do with it?
Greg Robinson
I guess it depends. Where do you think the temple will be built? I have an answer but I will wait for yours.
Varnel Watson
It could be suspended in the air for all we know Perry Stone says it has already been built underground in a deep state 9 Ricky Grimsley
Ricky Grimsley
Doubtful
Varnel Watson
but probable – he has seen it and you confirmed its in a deep state right? how much deeper can it get???
Terry Wiles
Actually, there is a large synagogue that has been built and recently opened under ground which I have seen personally.
But it is outside the parameters of the Western wall and reflects a synagogue rather than a restored temple.
But it sells products for people like Stone. No. The actual abomination is the antiChrist taking the seat that is reserved for the Messiah. Have you seen the architectural drawings. The Davidson institute has some interesting video clicks online Directly west of the Eastern gate Beside the Gold dome.
Robert Erwine
no, the actual next temple is the abomination , possibly this current state of “Israel “.
Varnel Watson
where do you get that from? Robert Erwine
Robert Erwine
the bible
Varnel Watson
tell us – how do you read it?
Robert Erwine
in revealtions
Varnel Watson
I can see your point there but the temple will function properly @ first before what you are describing I;ve heard Ricky Grimsley say within the next 5 years or so Perry says 2032 Lately I’ve been hearing about finishing the great comission by 2030 BUT I dont believe neither of these 3 even one little bit until temple’s done
Greg Robinson
The real question is WHERE will it be built? Don’t give generalities but be specific and why? I think if we look at the temple practices regarding the sacrifices it will give you an absolute clue on just where it has to be built.
Greg Robinson
Terry Wiles, there is no running spring or water there to do the sacrifices…yet. Looks like a shaking will have to happen or perhaps a better suitable location?
Terry Wiles
Greg Robinson It will happen. Israel is aware of so much water under that area that they are making development plans for the Dead Sea when the water will come gushing out and run down the natural valley and turn the Dead Sea into fresh water.
Varnel Watson
yes dead sea will be sweetened by grace
Varnel Watson
under the dome? Greg Robinson Ricky Grimsley
Ricky Grimsley
https://youtu.be/_FpQiJEhK0k
Varnel Watson
fraud?!
Greg Robinson
From what we learn the biggest suggestion (mandatory) is running water –not from a faucet– is required for the cleaning of the sacrifices. From this clue the current location of the Dome on the Rock is not suitable for a man made temple to sit. So where should it be built? Answer coming.
Varnel Watson
Suspended underground under the Dome is what I gather
Greg Robinson
Yes, from the Gihon springs. I have a friend in Israel right now who I asked to research actual running water via springs or streams near the temple mount. Wherever there is plenty of water should meet the Rabbinical requirements for cleansing the sacrifices.
Varnel Watson
maybe it will flow on the under temple waters then
Greg Robinson
Perhaps but it has to be exposed now or soon. I will get an answer soon to you. Stand by.
Varnel Watson
What is Beneath the Temple Mount?
As Israeli archaeologists recover artifacts from the religious site, ancient history inflames modern-day political tensions This Umayyad Caliph, Abd el-Malik, actually built the Dome of the Rock in 699 to 701 CE as a house of prayer for the Jews Under the dome of the Rock, was where the Fortress of Antonia stood Jews believe that the āfoundation rockā beneath the Dome of the Rock is atop Mt. Moriah, the site of the binding of Isaac. King Solomon built his Temple upon the rock in the tenth century before the Common Era (BCE), but it was destroyed in 587 BCE by the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar. According to Islamic tradition, the Dome of the Rock, built in 691, marks the spot where Muhammed ascended to Heaven. But according to Jewish tradition, Mount Moriah, now under the Dome of the Rock, is where the Temple’s Holy of Holies was situated.
After collapse of the roof of Al Aqsa, only the rafters remained. Analyses of the beams showed they were cedar and cypress wood; carbon dating showed some dated back more than 2,000 years, suggesting they had been used in earlier structures.
they found under the al Aqsa ruins, on the other side of the sealed āDouble Gateā (Shaāarei Chulda) along the interior of the southern wall of the Temple Mount. The American Colony photographer captioned this picture, āThe Temple area. The Double Gate. Ancient entrance to temple beneath el Aksa.
Many of these sites and structures may have been destroyed in recent years by the Waqfās (Muslim Council) bulldozers during their construction of subterranean mosques under the Temple Mount. Fortunately, photographs still exist and were digitized by archivists so we can document what were probably parts of the Jewish Temple complex and what the Mufti denies. http://jcpa.org/secrets-under-the-al-aqsa-mosque-a-photographic-essay/
Varnel Watson
Terry Wiles they took you to a tourist attraction not under the Dome That area is strictly guarded by armed guards
Terry Wiles
You donāt know as much as you think you do.
Varnel Watson
Nobody does, but they probably also sold you a real dead seas scroll for 40 shekels right š
Terry Wiles
No. In the ten times Iāve been there I have never seen them sold. I have been there often enough to see with my own eyes what is being built and walked through the construction in process.
Varnel Watson
you;ve been under the Dome and seen what’s done under the Head Stone? #doubtful
Terry Wiles
I have been under the dome with Arab guides. And I can tell you if there is anything under the dome except a very large stone it cannot be accessed from there.
Most probably there is something under the other mosque that is there.
I have also personally witnessed the excavation and construction underground of a very large synagogue that is just west of the Temple Mount. They were putting finishing touches on it in November of last year but already using it for Jewish purposes. I have also twice been right up to the Eastern Gate on the inside (which is guarded now, most of the time) and can tell you all they need to do is open the inside gates and knock out a few blocks and mortar.
Things are happening quickly on the ground there.
Varnel Watson
Wrong dome? Check out the pictures pls Al Aqsa Mosque on the left, Dome of the Rock on the right. The domed Tiferet Yisrael Synagogue is on the horizon between Al Aqsa and the tree. Jews believe that the āfoundation rockā beneath the Dome of the Rock is atop Mt. Moriah, the site of the binding of Isaac. King Solomon built his Temple upon the rock in the tenth century before the Common Era (BCE), but it was destroyed in 587 BCE by the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar. Seventy years later, the second Temple was built by Jews returning from Babylon with King Cyrusās blessing. Years later it was rededicated by the Maccabees in approximately 160 BCE after its defiling by the Seleucids. http://jcpa.org/secrets-under-the-al-aqsa-mosque-a-photographic-essay/
Terry Wiles
Nope. Same dome. The dome is a Muslim mosque called dome of the rock.
The building south of it is the Al-Aqsa mosque as the Ɣrticas you post says.
Today a lot that is in those pictures have been uncovered and can be seen. As I said earlier, the Arabs most probably have major buildings below it.
Have you been there? It is fascinating what has and is being uncovered. I go every two years and the last couple of years it is incredible what they are uncovering in the digs around the Temple Mount that is open to the public while the digging is in progress.
There are many academically focused trips Iām sure you would be interested in
Varnel Watson
You just got the wrong guide Perry’s seen what we are talking about https://www.perrystone.org/product/dv085-mystery-of-the-holy-temple/
Terry Wiles
Seems like a lot of people worship Perry. From my point of view he is a gifted speaker who know how to package his product and roll in the dough. His comments about the temple is just one of them.
Varnel Watson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7bpjTRwpI
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley Perry’s seen it I believe it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7bpjTRwpI
Robert Erwine
there is NOT ONE stone standing on top of another from the 2nd temple period ! everything that is seen or can be is from the roman pagan temple and later a Christian church before the 7th century Muslim structures.
Varnel Watson
YES Robert Erwine finally some sense. The Cap stone or the Corner stone is the only one single stone. The Cap Stone Which the Masons Refused