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Can a person have control over body and speech under the spirit of the Holy Ghost?
Varnel Watson
Good question Leon Bible Ricky Grimsley
Terry Wiles
It’s guidance and language not possession.
Leon Bible
Not only can he but a person does have control over body and speech under the Spirit of the Holy Ghost. 1 Corinthians 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
Varnel Watson
Charisma magazine reports scientific evidence that shows the brain’s function as the Holy Spirit moves the speech patterns when speaking in tongues. They report “science now proves this lack of control over your tongue.” http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/scientific-speach-patterns-in-speaking-in-tongues/
Leon Bible
Let’s see…. Charisma or the Bible? Which to believe? I will take the Bible every time!
Varnel Watson
doesnt the Bible say: as GOD gave them utterance (instead of as their mind produced) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
Leon Bible
Troy Day Yes Scripture does say the Spirit gave them the utterance… BUT it was “they” who did the speaking and this act of speaking in tongues by the unction of the Holy Spirit is indeed “subject” to those doing the speaking. Acts 2:4 And THEY were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave THEM utterance. Paul taught that the person being given an utterance was in control in the exercise of that gift as they themselves could be silent when the surroundings called for it. 1 Corinthians 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God…. So the idea of a “lack of control” is completely un-biblical and thereby un-spiritual.
Randal W Deese
Absolutely!
Varnel Watson
Bible says NO Science says NO
Randal W Deese
Hmmmm… Scripture?
Varnel Watson
as THE Spirit gave utterance
Randal W Deese
Troy Day THEY SPOKE… as the Spirit gave utterance… it is synergistic
Varnel Watson
Not according to the Greek Look it up
Randal W Deese
Troy Day Wrong…lol
Varnel Watson
No the Greek is not wrong Randal Check it out + some science https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
Randal W Deese
Trance glossolalia is not Scriptural
Varnel Watson
You dont know what you are talking about
Randal W Deese
Troy Day of course…haha
Varnel Watson
silly comments from all known theologian who just got cornered 🙂
Randal W Deese
Troy Day Have no idea what you are talking about… You obviously are convinced about something…lol
Varnel Watson
True that; you have not a clue about HSB
Randal W Deese
Troy Day .. And you do? We can have a formal written debate on the subject, if you like…
Varnel Watson
tongues of fire came first – read your Bible a bit more
Randal W Deese
Troy Day And… This has what to do with conversation?
Varnel Watson
oh ye of little faith 🙂 God gave the tongues first before they could speak. This is not chicken – egg debate
Randal W Deese
Varnel Watson
Randal W Deese
Troy Day nice beard