Practical application of Pentecostal theology in politics, economy and social issues
BLACK FRIDAY: Demon possession
“Usually there’s a an outbreak of demon activity when truth and light are the strongest…”
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Job
18 “Why did you bring me out from the womb?
Would that I had died before any eye had seen me
19 and were as though I had not been,
carried from the womb to the grave.
20 Are not my days few?
Then cease, and leave me alone, that I may find a little cheer
21 before I go—and I shall not return—
to the land of darkness and deep shadow,
22 the land of gloom like thick darkness,
like deep shadow without any order,
where light is as thick darkness.”
[Job 10:21-22 ESV]
10 But a man dies and is laid low;
man breathes his last, and where is he?
11 As waters fail from a lake
and a river wastes away and dries up,
12 so a man lies down and rises not again;
till the heavens are no more he will not awake
or be roused out of his sleep.
[Job 14:10-12 ESV]
13 If I hope for Sheol as my house,
if I make my bed in darkness,
14 if I say to the pit, ‘You are my father,’
and to the worm, ‘My mother,’ or ‘My sister,’
15 where then is my hope?
Who will see my hope?
16 Will it go down to the bars of Sheol?
Shall we descend together into the dust?”
[Job 17:13-16 ESV]
Jesus
19 “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 24 And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house— 28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 29 But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”
[Luke 16:19-31 ESV]
Job described Sheol as a place of darkness and deep shadow, where man is in a state of sleep, hopeless, with worms, in the dust.
In contrast, Jesus described Sheol as a place where there is both torment for the wicked and comfort for the righteous, with at least two compartments with a great chasm in between, where the dead are very awake and conscious, not asleep.
Question
Is there a contradiction between Job’s and Jesus’ understanding of Sheol? Did Job and Jesus have different views on death and the afterlife?
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David Lewayne Porter
Just makes sense if you think about it.
Alan N Carla Smith
Troy, Black Friday got its name because it is the one day of the year that stores have the best chance to get out of the red. Thus named black friday..selling merchandise for Christmas.
Tom Steele
Yeah, this looks about as silly as the claims I have seen that Black Friday has its origins in racism.
Varnel Watson
Sure – getting you out there midnight to waste all your blessings from God for China made goods. Not demonic at all. Yes sir David Lewayne Porter
David Lewayne Porter
I do not do black Friday.
I don’t fight crowds.
I have already finished most of my Christmas shopping on line.
Demonic activity. …. depends on the heart and attitude of the individual.
Troy Day
Define your (waste all your blessings from God).
Varnel Watson
David Lewayne Porter If I may agree with your comment from
6 months ago “Just makes sense if you think about it.” http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/laying-hands-when-casting-out-demons/
David Lewayne Porter
So you use a comment from another post?
What do you consider wasting the blessings of God as it relates to black Friday?
Varnel Watson
Why another post? It is from this same post http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/black-friday-demon-possession/
David Lewayne Porter
The link you used was the laying on of hands.
Ken Manley
If any thing is demonic about “Black Friday” it is the naked, ungodly craving of more and more material possessions after just supposedly taking the day before saying how thankful we are for what we have and we don’t want or need anymore.
In other words, the day before was all just a big lie and that is shown by what we do, not by what we have said, the day after.
And lying is demonic. He (the Devil) is the “father” of it (John 8:44).
Anonymous
YES William DeArteaga Oscar Valdez Isara Mo Wangure’s Reflections
Anonymous
Troy Day Did you expect something peaceful in the world full of greed?
Anonymous
Oscar Valdez AUGUSTINE was paid good moneyS ALL his life to produce a catholic theology which justifies the EMPIRE
the ONLY way a-mil exist is by denying REV 20 is literal
this is a very lame theological response to the BIBLE
IT is pretty clear JOHN saw REV 20 as literal and physical
SO saw it the early church and church fathers
it was LAME for Augustine to state that Rev 20 from the BIBLE was not literal and deny the mil BUT claim Byzantine was the Millennial Kingdom to take over the world for GOD – over 2 mils later it is clear Augustine was wrong
1st mil passed and nothing
2nd mil passed and nothing
to say that the 3rd mil we are ion now is the mil from Rev 20 which was also claimed for the 2nd mill in the 1900s is plain lame – NO mil literal or not = 2 mils
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