Should Christians use any CBD products?

Should Christians use any CBD products?
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φαρμακεία is pharmakia and translated withcraft in the new testament. Pharmakia means drugs and booze. I’ll often hear a man call it “self medicating.” This includes drinking and weed and dope. Things like this altar a man’s personality. Clouds his judgment, corrupts the morals of a man and pulls down his will.

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,…”
— Galatians 5:19,20

Pharmakia is used again in Revelations
“Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
— Revelation 9:12

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
— Revelation 21:8

They are just physical substances but they open up the Spirit world. Especially methamphetamine. It’s interesting that the Greek word Pharmakei means “sorcerywitchcraft” is translated drugs in English. This is where we get pharmacy, pharmacist. Etc

What about Pharmekeia?

This Greek word is interesting. As noted, it is used for medicine, drugs, or spells. The purpose of many drugs used for depression is to put you under a spell or alter your thinking. They is what they are designed to do. In some cases, this is needed. However, most times it is actually going against the purpose of God for the person.
The word is used twice. Once in Galatians and once in Revelation.

In Galatians 5:19-21 we see the first use. It is related to the use of witchcraft. Paul was very careful to make sure it knew it was related to many other issues of the heart.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
In the midst of sexual immorality, drunkeness, hatred, selfishness and envy is pharmekeia. You can read this as “The acts of the flesh are obvious…. fornication, getting drunks, taking medicines, doing drugs….” Anything that alters the mind is of the evil one. It is the work of the flesh and inspired by the evil one.

Revelation 18:23 takes it a whole new level. While Paul said that using mind altering drugs were of the flesh, John the Revelator takes to the spiritual realm of angels and demons. Let’s take a look.

The light of a lamp will never shine in you again, Nor will the joyous laughter of a wedding be heard in you. Your merchants were once the tycoons of the world, But you deceived all the nations by your sorcery.
The reality is that the companies that make meds and illegal drugs are tycoons. They have made billions off giving people addictions. They have deceived people all the world by their usage of pharmekeia. The enemy, Satan, is inspiring people to profit off people’s addictions and it is deception and witchcraft.

You should never purchase oil’s that have Pagan or Satanic mumbo-jumbo mixed in their advertising mainly as a testimony and to not support their evil efforts. But just like with music we should never allow the devil to hijack what the Lord has created. In Africa the medicine-man (Herbalist) is one of the more harmless of what might begin to be termed witchcraft. In my opinion the line should be drawn when you start invoking spirits or the names of ancestors, etc. in the same way with essential oil‘s the names that they are given may determine whether you should use them or not. People who practice paganism, magic, witchcraft and Satanism use herbs and drugs to weaken them and alter their state of consciousness so as to be more susceptible to the spirit world. The Bible forbids us from doing this.

76 Comments

  • Troy Day
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Troy Day

    what you say about this Jesse Morrell RichardAnna Boyce

  • Christopher Cole
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Christopher Cole

    I use CBD oil to help with my arthritis. I am not at all apologetic about that.

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      I dont think any of us is Had member whose husband was fired during COVID because the use of CBD showed him positive at his drug test at work and he was fired over it

  • Rick Swengel
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Rick Swengel

    The CBD products we use are THC free, so I have no problem with their use.

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      that is the commercial ad but has not been medically tested or proven in any way except of marketing Lates medical research claims THC may be contained to some % because it cannot be extracted fully It is all up to the manufacturers if they can be trusted at all in the shady drug industry AND there are cases where drug tests are catching it as illegal drug The question is should christians even consider using such drug?

    • Michael Swengel
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Michael Swengel

      Troy Day No it’s not just a claim. CBD products that do not contain THC are not “drugs” as you understand them.

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      Michael Swengel no medical research YET to prove this that I can have If you can provide it I will be happy to read Recently had a member whose husband was fired over CBD for his muscles that came on a drug test at work I started reading AND found out actual medical research stating NOT all can be drawn out and in most cases THC still remains in CBD

    • Michael Swengel
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Michael Swengel

      Troy Day In some CBD products, that’s true. Not in all. Please do your research before you start making claims.

  • Kerri Scherban
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Kerri Scherban

    You’re kidding right? You do realize the recipe for anointing oil is in exodus and calls for 9 lbs of cannabis?

    • Brandon Schwieger
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Brandon Schwieger

      Kerri Scherban where does the Bible say that?

    • Kerri Scherban
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Kerri Scherban

      Brandon Schwieger exodus 30:23-25, fragrant cane, kaneh bosem (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם kaneh bosm) 250 shekels (about 3 kg)

      Exodus 30:23-25 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

      23 “Take also for yourself the finest of spices: of flowing myrrh five hundred shekels, and of fragrant cinnamon half as much, two hundred and fifty, and of fragrant cane two hundred and fifty, 24 and of cassia five hundred, according to the shekel of the sanctuary, and of olive oil a hin. 25 You shall make of these a holy anointing oil, a perfume mixture, the work of a perfumer; it shall be a holy anointing oil.

    • Brandon Schwieger
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Brandon Schwieger

      Kerri Scherban I dont see where it says cannabis though? Not saying youre wrong, but I’m not convinced either

    • Kerri Scherban
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Kerri Scherban

      Brandon Schwieger

    • Zach Michael
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Zach Michael

      Kerri Scherban theres no cannabis in this passage. Unless you are trying to argue that cane is cannabis?

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      Kerri Scherban This false claim comes from 1936 when a little known Polish Professor, Sara Benetowa (later Sula Benet), did extensive etymological research She presupposed that since the the word “cinnamon” from the passage is derived from a Semitic origin; it is possible that “cannabis” is also of Semitic origin. That’s ALL She made NO claims that the Hebrew phrase qaneh bosem can be“cannabis” On the contrary, the original research and everything else since the 1930s defined as “an aromatic resinous reed plant” which we all know that a reed has nothing do with cannabis plant.

      On quite the contrary φαρμακεία is pharmakia and translated withcraft in the new testament. Pharmakia means drugs and booze. I’ll often hear a man call it “self medicating.” This includes drinking and weed and dope. Things like this altar a man’s personality. Clouds his judgment, corrupts the morals of a man and pulls down his will.

      “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
      Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,…”
      — Galatians 5:19,20

      Pharmakia is used again in Revelations
      “Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
      — Revelation 9:12

      “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
      — Revelation 21:8

    • Kerri Scherban
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Kerri Scherban

      Troy Day According to Webster’s New Hebrew dictionary, the current Hebrew word for cannabis is “kanabos.”
      Thus, contentions that the KJV possibly interpreted the Hebrew word incorrectly as “calamus” warrant consideration.

      “While cannabis is non-toxic (not a single death has ever been directly attributed to it, despite much effort being given to document such a fatality), calamus is most definitely a toxin. The FDA banned calamus from uses in food and medicines in 1968 as calamus contains more than 75% asarone. Asarone is a poison which has been shown to cause cancer, and has ill effects on heart, liver and kidney functions. This toxin in callamus is used for pest control. Why would God specify a large quantity of a poison be used in holy anointing oil?”

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      Kerri Scherban yeah you can copy from other articles and so can I but there is nothing there to prove it The polish lady was just plain wrong on Biblical exegesis I would advise to consult BROWN dictionary OR Brown, Driver, and Briggs Hebrew and English lexicon of the Old Testament OR the BDAG/HALOT Bundle from LOGOS

    • Kerri Scherban
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Kerri Scherban

      Troy Day something known to have healing benefits and would have definitely had beneficial aspects with hemp being used for cloth, medicinal, among others, it just simply didn’t exist?

  • Jereme McAlpin
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Jereme McAlpin

    I really don’t have a problem with it if it’s taken for medical reasons.

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      do you mean with doctor orders – prescription? Because right now you can buy it just like you buy olive oil

  • Patrick James
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Patrick James

    my dude, who created the plant?

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 24, 2020

      Troy Day

      So is poison and lead but we dont see you mooching on them any do you? φαρμακεία is pharmakia and translated withcraft in the new testament. Pharmakia means drugs and booze. I’ll often hear a man call it “self medicating.” This includes drinking and weed and dope. Things like this altar a man’s personality. Clouds his judgment, corrupts the morals of a man and pulls down his will.

      “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
      Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,…”
      — Galatians 5:19,20

      Pharmakia is used again in Revelations
      “Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
      — Revelation 9:12

      “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
      — Revelation 21:8

  • Trena Smith Vanderhorst

    Cannabis is a plant created by God. The plant has medicinal qualities. It can be abused just like any other drug. We need to remember that our bodies are temples and to treat ourselves and our bodies as such. I have tried both cbd and thc oils in small doses without much luck. I don’t think using it is a sin as long as we do it responsibly.

  • Troy Day
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Troy Day

    I for one am against it Someone made a case for it from exodus 30:23-25, fragrant cane, kaneh bosem (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם kaneh bosm) BUT I dont buy it as being proper exegesis Do you? RichardAnna Boyce Joseph Kidwell

  • Amy Ramos
    Reply June 24, 2020

    Amy Ramos

    What?! This has to be the most bizarre article I’ve ever read, and I don’t even use CBD. There is no sound theological backing to the article. It is cherry picking a verse and twisting it to make an agenda.

  • Troy Day
    Reply June 25, 2020

    Troy Day

    END TIMES SIGN – church folk be smoking and rubbing on pot and still think it is OK and let them go to heaven

  • Marc Bonhomme
    Reply June 25, 2020

    Marc Bonhomme

    So are all medicines off limits?

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Troy Day

      is CBD medically approved or prescribed by medics – NO

    • Marc Bonhomme
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Marc Bonhomme

      Troy Day It is here in Canada. CBD has all the pain relieving and neurological benefits without the “high” of THC. It’s made mostly from hemp. I agree getting high on drugs is definitely off limits biblically.

  • Orall Burns
    Reply June 25, 2020

    Orall Burns

    Should Christians eat at McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken? Should they eat candy and chips? Should they drink soda pop? Should they watch Netflix and Game of Thrones? Should they listen to Rock n Roll? If your going to ask a question regarding CBD then you have to address all the others as well!

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Troy Day

      probably NOT but none of these gives you the visions while CBD is right there on the border line Danny Kircharr like in many other groups church folk be tripping 🙂

    • Orall Burns
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Orall Burns

      Troy Day vision??? You radical fanatical are a trip. That’s why I love Facebook, it’s like the Walmart and fair grounds of the internet, so entertaining! Who needs TV when you have Facebook 😜

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Troy Day

      oh see Danny Kircharr now I am a rad fanatic for reading the med research and know the issue Orall Burns pls check some research before your comment again

    • Orall Burns
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Orall Burns

      Troy Day I just love Facebook, it’s so entertaining!

  • Raymond Wolper
    Reply June 25, 2020

    Raymond Wolper

    THC is the psychoactive componant of cannabis. It will stimulate the cannibinoid receptors in the human body and trigger the release of anti-inflammatory compounds that relieve pain and anxiety. It will also induce a state of euphoria. CBD is not psychoactive, although it stimulates the cannibinoid receptor system of the human body the same way, relieving pain and anxiety.

    All things have their proper and improper application, even alchohol (Proverbs 31). Don’t get it twistwd.

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Troy Day

      NO medical research calls it safe yet It is ALL marketing and cash cow Danny Kircharr had a member whose husband got fired over using CBD came on drug test at work and was fired So I did the research Depends on which company makes the extract but not ALL drug is taken out at all times There is always residue left Orall Burns

    • John Booth
      Reply June 25, 2020

      John Booth

      CBD oil has huge benefits to Parkinson’s disease.

  • Troy Day
    Reply June 25, 2020

    Troy Day

    Orall Burns wwax on right hand wax off left hand some CBD oil Read some med research first pls

  • Leo Leeder
    Reply June 25, 2020

    Leo Leeder

    I find it amazing, not once in the headline, preview or in the entire article has anyone defined CBD. Isn’t that one of the rules taught in Journalism 101?

    • Troy Day
      Reply June 25, 2020

      Troy Day

      φαρμακεία is pharmakia and translated withcraft in the new testament. Pharmakia means drugs and booze. I’ll often hear a man call it “self medicating.” This includes drinking and weed and dope. Things like this altar a man’s personality. Clouds his judgment, corrupts the morals of a man and pulls down his will.

      “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
      Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,…”
      — Galatians 5:19,20

      Pharmakia is used again in Revelations
      “Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
      — Revelation 9:12

      “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
      — Revelation 21:8

      They are just physical substances but they open up the Spirit world. Especially methamphetamine. It’s interesting that the Greek word Pharmakei means “sorcerywitchcraft” is translated drugs in English. This is where we get pharmacy, pharmacist. Etc

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Troy Day

    HEY NOW familiar faces in this group too – Do you want to pitch in on this one? RichardAnna Boyce Philip Williams Micael Grenholm

  • David Nance
    Reply July 9, 2020

    David Nance

    If you use to get high…then you are a sorcerer in GODS eyes….if for medicinal purposes probably ok…

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Troy Day

      you should probably stay away too

    • David Nance
      Reply July 10, 2020

      David Nance

      Troy Day a sorcerer is one who uses illegal drugs

  • Gregory Stane
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Gregory Stane

    Pharmacopoeia is the actual Greek, for”one who enchants with powders”…🤔

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Troy Day

    and there you have it folks

  • Nathaniel Taylor
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Nathaniel Taylor

    Or another twin question;

    Should Christians use any opioid products?

  • Chester Snavely
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Chester Snavely

    Should Christians use fire? People who make statements like this are compulsive rule makers – like the Judaizers. That is contrary to following the leading of the Holy Spirit.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 9, 2020

      Troy Day

      it is not a rule just a question Answer it

    • Chester Snavely
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Chester Snavely

      Troy Day If you make a blanket statement, it becomes a rule. What makes you think you have a right to tell others what to eat or what day to worship?

  • Jesse Campos
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Jesse Campos

    Yes there’s nothing wrong with it

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Troy Day

      says WHO not the BIBLE in any case

    • Jesse Campos
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Jesse Campos

      Troy Day it doesn’t have the parts that alter your mind and it’s good for older people for pain so you don’t get hooked on opiates so yes the word of god says he’s giving us everything that is good and this also helps children with eplipsy so no it’s not wrong

  • Jason P Sage
    Reply July 9, 2020

    Jason P Sage

    ABSOLUTELY!

  • Désirée Sebastian Klich

    Nope

  • Victoria Petersen
    Reply July 10, 2020

    Victoria Petersen

    We as Christians are free, we can use these and still be saved Christians. The question should really be, is it beneficial? Cbd oil really helps some people with tremors or pain. So I’m all for that. But getting high off something is not good.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Troy Day

      beneficial? are abortions and euthanasia beneficial?

    • Victoria Petersen
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Victoria Petersen

      Troy Day abortions and euthanasia are not beneficial (you asked) that was not the topic I was referring too. It isn’t even in the same category

  • Justin LovesJesus Dover

    God made pain remedies in the natural earth.If your taking them for pain releif it’s not un Christian.Id your taking it to alter your mind then it is.Becaue we should be sober and full of the spirit.I actually prefer stuff like kratom or cbd because it doesn’t mess you up like modern opiods.you can have pain releif and stay sober

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 10, 2020

      Troy Day

      so He did poison too Dont see you drinking it

    • Justin LovesJesus Dover

      Everything depending on it’s use.Even amphetamines saves lives if you use it correctly.And a snakes poison is used to create it’s antidote.

    • Candi Davenport
      Reply July 11, 2020

      Candi Davenport

      Troy Day actually poison can help if taken correctly. Belladonna can be used in several medical applications. Some blood thinners use a small amount of poison, look up Coumadin/Warfarin.
      Rhubarb has small amounts of poison we can eat, but the leaves could potentially kill you. We literally are exposed to poisons everyday, God gave us livers and kidneys to process it. So, yes I do see us drinking it. LOL!

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 10, 2020

    Troy Day

    Chester Snavely I agree with you that using CBD is NOT following the leading of the Holy Spirit.

  • Jacob Ray Guffey
    Reply July 10, 2020

    Jacob Ray Guffey

    I’m so glad I’m not Calvinist. Total depravity has you folks against everything!

  • Candi Davenport
    Reply July 10, 2020

    Candi Davenport

    CBD oil has no THC in it. Even if it did I do not believe it’s wrong. God gave us plants and trees to help cure ailments. That is not witch craft.

  • Karen Bean
    Reply July 10, 2020

    Karen Bean

    Why shouldn’t we? It’s an herbal medicine. Just like dandelion, rose petals, & most other plants.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 12, 2020

      Troy Day

      addictive per latest research – comes positive on any drug test at work or police Go figure

    • Karen Bean
      Reply July 12, 2020

      Karen Bean

      Troy Day not quite. CBD contains minute traces of THC. Nowhere near enough to cause a high. & THC has been proven to not be addictive. So…

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 12, 2020

      Troy Day

      Karen Bean comes positive on any drug test at work or police Go figure

    • Karen Bean
      Reply July 12, 2020

      Karen Bean

      Troy Day you already said that. If that’s your measure of whether we should use it for medicinal purposes, opiates test positive on most drug tests, as well.

  • Diana Tew
    Reply July 12, 2020

    Diana Tew

    This question is one of a personal nature and choice. God guides us, not men. It’s just like the rich young ruler… money had him. So it wasn’t good for him to be rich. But others can be wealthy and it doesn’t affect them poorly, they use it helpfully and wisely.

    This type of question is just trying to make rules. Smh

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 12, 2020

      Troy Day

      oh hello So keep GOD out of your personal business then ?

    • Diana Tew
      Reply July 12, 2020

      Diana Tew

      Troy Day

      Don’t know how you pulled that out of my comment. I said “God guides us, not men” I also said “This type of question is just trying to make rules.”

      IOW… it’s a poor question.

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