Physical exam for your CHURCH

Physical exam for your CHURCH
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  • Troy Day
    Reply July 12, 2019

    Troy Day

    happens step by step RichardAnna Boyce Philip Williams

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 12, 2019

    Troy Day

    the WHOLE book plain and simple – presentation and main points VERY good read Jim Price Joe Absher Isara Mo Daniel J Hesse reflecting on the TRUE Picture of the church in America today as we’ve discussed with RichardAnna Boyce and others

  • Isara Mo
    Reply July 12, 2019

    Isara Mo

    Robert Erwine
    For the diagnostic to be of meaning, you have to compare the early church and the modern day church…how they were alive and living for God, and how today’s church is alive and living for the world..

  • Isara Mo
    Reply July 12, 2019

    Isara Mo

    The physical exam left one very important question out of the 4:
    DEAD…
    Dying and dead are two different states of a “living” organism…
    Jesus said the flesh counts for nothing…it is the Spirit that matters in a church…
    So if the Spirit is not there..the church is DEAD not dying…even though you might have all the bustle and rattle of flesh…(playing church as Troy Day calls it)

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 13, 2019

      Troy Day

      He didnt leave it out IF you read the whole book the last chapter has 3 stages giving 4 answers or work arounds to each Sick, dying and dead are the stages

      Daniel J Hesse I’ve more than once addressed that stats the church in America is NOT just sick but very much dying and very much NEAR dead Stats show us that much The rest needs to be considered when digging deep into the problem as of WHY

    • Isara Mo
      Reply July 13, 2019

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      What steps then should be taken to resuscitate them ? To raise them.from the dead?

    • Isara Mo
      Reply July 14, 2019

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day
      Revival originates from REVIVE…
      If you say Jezebel has choked, strangled, suffocated the church, if you say there is a ” python spirit” that has brought about the death..you will be called a heretic..
      Jesus said ” let the dead bury their own dead…”
      In this part of the world we have a saying “Usimwamshe aliyelala na ukimwamsha utalala wewe..”
      Translated” Dont wake up a sleeping man lest you fall into sleep yourself..”
      In Zen Budhism there is something called KOAN…When a cup is filled to the top with tea or coffee you cannot add more tea or coffee..it will be meanigless and it will spill over.
      Such is the state of the mind of a man who has ALL THE KNOWLEDGE who knows everything.It is a waste trying to impart anything new unto them.
      The Pharisees and Sadusees and teachers of the law and the elders BELIEVED THEY KNEW ALL THERE WAS TO KNOW ABOUT GOD…so when Jesus came along and tried to them the truth they wouldn’t accept Him or His teachings..They were already FULL..
      The WHY factor of sick and dying and dead churches are found in the church themselves…
      They need an emptying of the head then a new re filling..

      Revival

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 14, 2019

    Troy Day

    which one is your favorite Michael Ellis Carter Jr.

    • Michael Ellis Carter Jr.

      Troy Day dying… I think most of our churches are dying. Sure we are not teaching our congregations to die so surely are churches are dying 😂

    • Michael Ellis Carter Jr.

      Fixed typo did not mean riches

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 14, 2019

      Troy Day

      Michael Ellis Carter Jr. not even sure what you just said – the double are gets me every time

    • Michael Ellis Carter Jr.

      Troy Day yeah was heading out to church and didn’t catch it

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