CAN YOU EXPLAIN The disappearing of the dinosaurs and why were no dinosaurs in Noah’s ark WITHOUT GAP THEORY?

CAN YOU EXPLAIN The disappearing of the dinosaurs  and why were no dinosaurs in Noah’s ark WITHOUT GAP THEORY?
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  • Troy Day
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Troy Day

    Here we go Robert Franzen your last chance in this series to shine as a BIBLE scholar and disprove Gap Theory 🙂

  • Robert Erwine
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Robert Erwine

    they died out over time

  • Jon Ruthven
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Jon Ruthven

    Here’s your answer from http://www.reasons.org

  • Steve Celich
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Steve Celich

    Yom = unspecified duration of time

  • Melody Cates Kinzer
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Melody Cates Kinzer

    just my personal theory, I think God decided they didn’t get a ride on the ark

  • Jerome Herrick Weymouth
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Jerome Herrick Weymouth

    Too many root beer floats?

  • Isara Mo
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Isara Mo

    Why crack your head about a simple question like that..
    The Teacher, the Holy Spirit has been there before time and is with you and in you (unless you are not of Christ)..
    ASK HIM

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Troy Day

    The purpose of the Bible is not to inform us about all that ever was or ever will be; otherwise we would have a multi-volume Bible larger than the largest of encyclopaedias. The purpose of the Bible is to tell us what G-d has provided for us in this life. So the Bible tells us almost nothing about the pre-Adamic period and very little about the post-millennial time period. It may be acceptable for people to speculate about these matters, as long as it is understood to be merely speculation and not to be considered truth. However, such speculation is never profitable to our faith or our ability to obey the purposes of G-d in our lives. Genesis 1.2 contains a very important statement. “And darkness was on the face of the deep”. G-d had existed from eternity prior to this point and what we read about in Genesis chapter one was not His first work. But Genesis chapter one tells us nothing about the eternal pre-existent works of G-d. We cannot say that G-d existed eternally but never did anything until the moment that He created the heavens and the earth. G-d is not a G-d of eternal passivity. To put it more bluntly, G-d has existed for untold billions of years and He did not spend all of prehistory doing nothing, but we are not told what He did do. We are told that darkness was on the face of the deep, but darkness is not a substance; it is not something, darkness is in fact the lack of something. Darkness is the lack of light. Darkness actually has no power (although Christians often think that darkness is a rival power to light). Conversely, light is a substance and is powerful in its own right. This is true Biblically and scientifically. As an example: if the ionosphere were to be covered with some form of a thick blanket so as to exclude any light from reaching the earth, and if all light sources on the earth were extinguished, then we could say that a “darkness covered the earth”. If you then were to go to the end of the fishing pier at the beach and light a single candle, the light from that candle would be visible all the way to the horizon. Only an obstructed view of the end of the fishing pier would limit the visibility of the light. The light of one candle has more power than all the darkness, because darkness is not a substance, but the lack of light. The very fact that Genesis chapter one says that darkness covered the earth means that something was acting as a blanket over the earth at that time. It could be safely said that G-d had not existed in darkness prior to that moment, because where G-d is there is light. Yet the Bible tells us almost nothing about this time period, even though that time period is much longer than the time period that stretches from the creation of Adam until the end of this age. Now we have an interesting fact. What we think of as the supernatural world existed prior to Genesis one, but we are not told when G-d created this supernatural world, nor are we told when He created the world we live in now. In Genesis 1.1 the heavens and the earth are portrayed as being pre-existent; then at some point in His eternal existence G-d covered the earth with a blanket and darkness fell on the surface of the earth. Starting from Genesis the chronology of the Bible seems to trace a period of about 6,000 years. But we know that the earth is much older than 6,000 years and that the light we see coming from the stars has been travelling to us for at least tens of thousands of years. So these elements were not created six thousand years ago. But because the creation of the earth and the creation of the other heavenly bodies are not relevant to our salvation, the Bible does not comment on their history. We can speculate that the evil spirits are the disembodied spirits of beings from a pre-Adamic time period. But we can only speculate about that. The theological assumption is that at some point before the creation of Adam the angel Lucifer rebelled against G-d and took with him 1/3 of the seraphim and these spirits from the pre-Adamic creation. Then in Genesis 1.2 we find the words tohu v bohu, 11 which indicate that a judgement came upon this pre-Adamic race; after which G-d started a new creation with Adam. But spirits exist eternally. In fact a spirit could be likened to an algebraic mathematical ray. A ray has a starting point, which is the time when it is created, but it has no end point. This is in contrast to G-d, who in algebraic mathematical terms is a line. In algebraic terms a line has neither a starting point nor an ending point. A line continues forever in the past and forever in the future. Since these rebellious (i.e. evil) spirits of a pre-Adamic creation are deathless, they have continued to exist into our time period, seeking physical bodies to inhabit. The reason they seek to occupy bodies is because these beings are very limited in their completely spiritual state. Creation is incomplete without a physical state. We tend to think of the physical world negatively, and the spiritual realm as being more important. But in fact the Bible tells us that in the future G-d will live forever with us in the physical realm, after He has created the new heaven and the new earth. 1

    • Melody Cates Kinzer
      Reply February 1, 2019

      Melody Cates Kinzer

      Troy Day well birthday boy, that makes sense. I recant my theory about the ark. Have a blessed one 🍰

    • Robert Erwine
      Reply February 1, 2019

      Robert Erwine

      got to stop with the G-d troy

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 1, 2019

      Troy Day

      this is from a messianic jew book I didnt wanna change it in the quote but you can if youd like to

    • Robert Erwine
      Reply February 1, 2019

      Robert Erwine

      thanks its a stumbling block /blasphemy in english with the short hand .

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 1, 2019

      Troy Day

      true – I dont disagree with that though I dont believe God’s name is God buy anyhow, what about the rest?

    • Isara Mo
      Reply February 1, 2019

      Isara Mo

      Troy Day Be blessed for this lengthy explanation brother.
      I believe many people needed it.
      I personally don’t have any known facts about the pre Adamic period and I don’t think there is any Biblical explanation about the period so we humanely try to travel back into spacetime and establish the truth about the Pre Adamic period thru evidences that surround us e.g. darkness, water (there is no mention of God creating water…in the Bible), the deep and many pre historic and geological archeological factors….which is really a daunting task.
      Hebrews 11:3 says God spoke creation into existence…and I guess this verse is referring specifically to Genesis verse which God says God SAID “Let there be light”….and a sequence of other ” let there be..let there be…” until verse 31 when we are told God saw that EVERYTHING He has created was very good.
      The complexities of life around us and in us doesn’t in any way reflect a six earthly day creation story neither is the vastness of the physical universe(not to mention the spiritual) support the theory.
      God is eternal has no beginning nor end but surely the whole universe has a beginning….
      The Bible clearly states “IN THE BEGINNING….”and goes on to explain what happened in the beginning….ie God created the HEAVENS and the EARTH…and from there downwards the narration is about HOW the earth was created but there is no details on how the heavens were created.Yet you find this statement in chapter 2 verse one ”
      “Thus the heavens and the earth WERE completed in their vast array”…
      Nothing is mentioned about a pre Adamic race or life from Genesis 1:1-31 when God saw all that He has made was very good.
      Pre creation ” elements ” that we find in Genesis 1:1 is not only darkness, but ” void” and water….so the premise is that if it was a BEGINNING then we would have read LET THERE BE WATER…as it was in the case of LIGHT but we don’t see that and this causes us to speculate that something had happened in the beginning BEFORE the beginning mentioned in Genesis 1:1….for how did water or darkness come about?
      But as you have said earlier if the purpose of the Bible is NOT to inform us about all that ever took place or ever will be, then we have to accept that the narration in Genesis 1:1 -2 was cut down to size to fit our kindergarten minds (Aren’t we before God?)
      Interpretation and misinterpretation of Genesis 1 and 2 is only humane…but I don’t believe in a God who just wakes up and helter skeleter begins to throw light left and right not knowing where they will land…
      If a wise man never jumps into a business without first preparing a business plan, without first making a feasibility study how much more would the Wisdom that gave the wise man a mind of that nature of plan and preparation be?
      God is a God of plan and preparedness…
      Albert Einstein once said that God doesn’t play dice with creation..
      I concur.He didn’t create a pre Adamic race that failed, then began afresh…
      He would be a God of trial and error not knowing the end from the beginning….

  • Neil Short
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Neil Short

    Who says there were no dinosaurs on the ark? Given the biblical dimensions, there would have been room.

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 1, 2019

    Troy Day

    Robert Erwine just for you and Gary Micheal Epping with corrections

    The fact that the spiritual world is eternal is confirmed throughout Scripture and we will not take
    much time to explore the subject. However, even science has shown that the spiritual world is eternal.
    Because both the Hebrew and Greek languages have only one word that is interchangeable for wind,
    spirit and breathe, we can know that to God there is no difference between these three concepts. It is
    a scientific statement that matter cannot cease to exist. As a result every time you breathe (that is:
    every time you take in wind or spirit), you are inhaling molecules that were breathed out by Jesus at
    creation. Every breath you take allows you to partake of the Spirit of Jesus.

  • William DeArteaga
    Reply February 1, 2019

    William DeArteaga

    God saw that Dinosaurs would gobble humans, so He put out a contract on them, and the angels sent in a big meteor.

    • Rico Hero
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Rico Hero

      William DeArteaga The big meteor that left the Chicxulub Crater and the k9 layer 65 million years ago. It certainly did kill the dinosaurs and the impact most likely would have caused mountains to quake as in Jer 4:24, but I doubt this meteor could have caused the earth to be covered in water as in Gen.1:2. The K-9 layer associated with the impact had no water shown afterwards and a different kind of life appeared after the dinosaurs –the Caenozoic era. Whatever caused the earth to flood in Gen 1:2, had to come after the Caenozoic era. I guess Ken Ham forgot this eras animals on his ark encounter. 🙂

  • Juanita Pynkoski Craig
    Reply February 2, 2019

    Juanita Pynkoski Craig

    Maybe they were gone before the Ark and the flood.

  • Robert Franzen
    Reply February 2, 2019

    Robert Franzen

    If one has the right hermeneutic, it’s easy. There is only ONE world wide flood mentioned in Scripture; that flood happened in Gen 6-8 during Noah’s time. Virtually all dinosaurs were destroyed in that flood.

    There were also dino’s after the flood for a short time. The Chinese Emperor had one as a pet. The Inca’s in South America also seen different kinds & both Far East & South Americans drew them on art work, pottery, blankets etc.

    How did they survive the flood? Simple, Noah took a few kinds. You know the average size of all the dinosaurs are about the size of a large sheep. Just get a baby male & female & there you have it.

    The earths atmosphere changed after the flood. Dinosaurs could not survive their size post flood earth. So they died off.

    A question that contributes to this answer is including Why or how Dino’s were so large (the ones that were large).

    • Rico Hero
      Reply February 3, 2019

      Rico Hero

      Robert Franzen Re: The Chinese Emperor had one as a pet. Really? Tell me more!

    • Gary Micheal Epping
      Reply February 3, 2019

      Gary Micheal Epping

      Monty Python had one too!

    • Gary Micheal Epping
      Reply February 3, 2019

      Gary Micheal Epping

      Herman Newtik never did know what he was talking about? Best to just forget about him. Also forget about exogesis and concentrate only on Jesus.

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 3, 2019

      Troy Day

      ONE things for sure
      CANt EXPLAIN DISAPPEARING OF DINOSAURS WITHOUT GAP THEORY

    • Gary Micheal Epping
      Reply February 3, 2019

      Gary Micheal Epping

      Only if they say God created the earth with dinosaur bones already in the rock layers. But that is a really lame argument, but the best Yec has, since they don’t want to deal with the gap in verse 2.

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 3, 2019

      Troy Day

      This conclusion should not come as too great a surprise, she says. None of the other great mass extinctions are associated with an impact, and no other large craters are known to have caused a significant extinction event

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 2, 2019

    Troy Day

    you dont seem to be using right hermeneutic per se

    • Robert Franzen
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Robert Franzen

      Troy Day well Troy – that’s what I’ve been saying to you all along. It all depends on ones hermeneutic.
      The real test is how it holds up with Scripture as a whole.
      The gap theory takes verses like Jer. 4:23 & uses it for support for the pet theory totally ignoring the context

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Troy Day

      you are still no explaining OP – just talking

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 2, 2019

    Troy Day

    In Hebrew verse 22 continues, and monster
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    in delicate palaces. This is a difficult word to
    explain because there are two words in the Hebrew Bible that some Christian commentators believe
    are actually different spellings of the same word and other Christian commentators believe are two
    separate and unrelated words. The two words are tannim
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    and tannin.
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    This word also occurs
    once in the feminine plural form tanot,
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    which could be the feminine plural form of either tannim or
    tannin. In the appendix at the end of this chapter I have listed all the places where these words occur
    in the Hebrew text, how these words were translated into the Septuagint and also how they are
    translated into English.
    The rabbis understood each of the three Hebrew words to correspond primarily to the Greek
    word dragon.
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    Indeed the Authorised Version of the Bible
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    usually translates each of the three
    words by the English word dragon. So it is clear that the ancient rabbis thought that tannim and
    tannin were the same word, or at least had the same definition. Most languages have words that mean
    exactly the same thing but vary slightly in their spelling.
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    The variant spelling and pronunciation is
    usually a result of geographical differences between the people who use such words (i.e.: the
    difference in the spellings of British and American words).

    • Robert Franzen
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Robert Franzen

      Troy Day oh man – you didn’t have to go thru all that: it’s simple – the word dinosaurs was not invented until 1841

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Troy Day

      the 1800s seems to be your answer for everything 🙂

    • Robert Franzen
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Robert Franzen

      Troy Day lol just saying 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • Robert Franzen
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Robert Franzen

      Troy Day The Enlightenment though – as great as it was, all kinds of new theological introductions came in the Church

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Troy Day

      groundhog theology came about in 1758

    • Robert Franzen
      Reply February 2, 2019

      Robert Franzen

      Troy Day I wonder how they came up with that groundhog thing ???

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 3, 2019

    Troy Day

    So the Hebrew words tannim and tannin are interchangeable, and now we must establish what
    they mean. In Genesis 1.21 this word is used of creatures that are related to the sea (also in Job 7). In
    Exodus 7 we know that the creature that transformed from the rod of Moses had a tail. In Deut. 32.33
    the word is paired with snakes. In many other passages the word is used in relationship to other types
    of animals that feed on carrion. So we have the image of a creature that lives on the land and in the
    sea, has a tail, feeds on carrion and reminds people of a snake. To me the only creature that most
    closely matches all these descriptions belongs to the reptile family, which includes alligators,
    crocodiles, lizards, iguanas and gila monsters.
    The Hebrew words tannim and tannin are translated into Greek as dragon.
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    great mythology that has developed in Europe about dragons, we need to take a moment to understand
    what this word actually means in Greek. The root of this Greek word is derkomai,
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    meaning to look
    at. So the original meaning of the word dragon
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    in Greek means a creature that has very good
    eyesight.
    In the New Testament the word dragon only appears in the Book of Revelation,
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    where it talks
    about a creature who took control of one third of the stars of heaven.
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    The dragon fights against
    Michael and against the angels who are aligned with Michael. The war takes place in the heavenlies.
    So there is a general idea that this is a reference to Satan (who was an angel of light, a seraph) and
    because he takes one third of the seraphim with him in this war, a theory has developed that Satan
    was once a co-eq

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 3, 2019

    Troy Day

    In Job 40.20;
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    Psa. 73.14;
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    Psa. 103.26;
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    Isa. 27.1, dragon translates the Hebrew liv-ya-tan
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    Leviathan.
    This word is never actually translated into English. Leviathan is simply a transliteration of the
    Hebrew word. The description of Leviathan in Job 40.15-23
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    is very strange; he has fire coming out
    of his mouth and beams of light from his eyes (40.18-19). Pride is a shield to him (40.15). This is not
    the description of any earthly creature. But the fact that it specifies that pride is a shield to him would
    probably be a reference to Satan, who sinned through pride. So the rabbis seem to be saying that
    Satan is the dragon

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 3, 2019

    Troy Day

    This conclusion should not come as too great a surprise, she says. None of the other great mass extinctions are associated with an impact, and no other large craters are known to have caused a significant extinction event

  • Steve Losee
    Reply February 4, 2019

    Steve Losee

    who told you ther were no dinosaurs on the ark?

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Troy Day

      who told you there were dinosaurs on the ark?

    • Steve Losee
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Steve Losee

      Gen. 6:19

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Troy Day

      who says they lived all the way to the flood?

    • Steve Losee
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Steve Losee

      who says they didn’t? We could do this until Jesus returns. I’m convinced they were on the ark (those that didn’t live in the water), and I can’t find a verse that insists they didn’t.

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Troy Day

      how are you convinced they were on the ark – the Bible says nothing about them or anything similar

    • Steve Losee
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Steve Losee

      Because I also believe they remained for quite a while. The word “dinosaur” was coined in the late 1800’s, b there wereother words for them earlier: leviathan, behemoth, dragon, etc. Most were hunted to extinction, but what would a crocodile morph into if it lived 1000 years (yes, I subscribe to the canopy theory, though NOT the gap theory)? We don’t know. Since the Bible is silent on this, I’m pretty free to find what doesn’t violate it!

    • Troy Day
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Troy Day

      did you read what I posted about : leviathan, behemoth, dragon above?

    • Steve Losee
      Reply February 4, 2019

      Steve Losee

      sorry; there have been too many entries for me to read them all; I’ve read various positions on this and agree with ICR (Institute for Creation Research); young earth, no gap. You don’t have to agree, but that’s the way I teach it. 🙂

  • Louise Cummings
    Reply February 4, 2019

    Louise Cummings

    No I didn’t see that. But I have no idea where there the dinosaurs went. Well I know you will think. I’m crazy. I’ll have. To look again. But I don’t remember reading where Noah took them on the boat. Or Ark.

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 5, 2019

    Troy Day

    In Job 26.13 and Amos 9.3 dragon translates the Hebrew na-hkash
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    which means snake,
    serpent, magic, divination, guess, or estimate.
    The rabbis also translate the Hebrew word na-hkash
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    as dragon. It seems clear that the rabbis
    had the general idea of a snake or a serpent when they translate nahkash as dragon. But the other
    definitions of this word (magic, divination, guess, or estimate) have a distinctly demonic character
    to them in that these definitions are associated with the worship of idols.

  • Louise Cummings
    Reply February 5, 2019

    Louise Cummings

    I don’t remember but two Arch angels being listed on the Bible was Michael and Gabriel.

  • Troy Day
    Reply February 7, 2019

    Troy Day

    Gary Micheal Epping Rico Hero I am concluding that Robert Franzen will not post from his book for discussion any time soon. It also appears that after 2-3 full weeks of talking he is only trying to put down Gap Theory instead of actually answering the question in OP without Gap Theory When realizing it cant be done as many before him have tried and failed he starts putting down Gap Theory which is basically answering the question with Gap Theory which is exactly opposite to what is asked in the OP – well, if the only thing he can offer is slander to Gap Theory I believe I am about done listening…

    • Rico Hero
      Reply February 7, 2019

      Rico Hero

      Robert Franzen Your post responding in point form to the 10 questions that cannot be easily answered without a pre-Adamite and Gap theory is not deleted. It is on another thread.

      This thread is about the dinosaurs. You said in this post that an emperor had one as a pet. That is exciting!Tell me more

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 18, 2019

    Troy Day

    can you Philip Williams

  • Karl Freels
    Reply July 18, 2019

    Karl Freels

    You don’t know that. Visit the Ark in Kentucky and there i learned a lot.

  • Mike Albright
    Reply July 18, 2019

    Mike Albright

    Who said there were no dinosaurs on the ark? Your original statement is not biblical, so your conclusion will be incorrect as well.

  • RichardAnna Boyce
    Reply July 18, 2019

    RichardAnna Boyce

    only needs a baby male and female for species to survive.

  • Philip Williams
    Reply July 19, 2019

    Philip Williams

    Well, the dinosaurs were early birds, (created on the fifth day) but still missed the Ark. in truth, their children the current birds were on the Ark.

    • Neil Steven Lawrence
      Reply July 19, 2019

      Neil Steven Lawrence

      Philip Williams huh!

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 19, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Neil Steven Lawrence dinosaurs are birds. Birds are dinosaurs.

    • Neil Steven Lawrence
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Neil Steven Lawrence

      Philip Williams According to evolution theory. I believe evolution is a “doctrine of demons.“ At best it is only a theory and not proven. There is zero evidence for macro evolution or what they call Darwinian evolution. Watch Ray comfort‘s movie Evolution versus God on YouTube (43 min)

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Neil Steven Lawrence I am not an evolutionist. I do believe that God created animals for adaptation to changing environments. Likewise the birds/dinosaurs.

    • Neil Steven Lawrence
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Neil Steven Lawrence

      Philip Williams that’s good to know. There is some minor evidence for micro evolution like the change of the size of a bird’s beak. This should be termed as adaptation not evolution. But there is zero evidence for macro evolution – that is a change of “kind“ or Darwinian evolution.

      The biggest killers in modern times were driven by evolutionary socialistic/communistic ideology.
      Nazi Germany
      Leninist Russia
      Maoist China

      … all driven by the deadly mix of evolution and communism.

      That is why I call evolution a “doctrine of demons.“

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 19, 2019

    Troy Day

    Mike Albright tell us how the original statement was wrong? Karl Freels has seen them personally in the KY model

  • William DeArteaga
    Reply July 19, 2019

    William DeArteaga

    A big astroid did it!

    • Neil Steven Lawrence
      Reply July 19, 2019

      Neil Steven Lawrence

      William DeArteaga if the flood didn’t get them, then the astroid definitely did!

  • Neil Steven Lawrence
    Reply July 19, 2019

    Neil Steven Lawrence

    I imagine Noah was a pretty smart guy since he preach the gospel for 150 years! Therefore I think he could figure out with these monstrous animals “called dinosaurs” he could easily take the eggs and incubate them for the period of time on the ark. Then they could hatch after the ark landed! No feeding necessary, no large cages necessary. Since people are speculating here…

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 19, 2019

    Troy Day

    I cant explain it without gap Philip Williams

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 19, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day why do you need the gap theory to explain 5th Creation/day creatures?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams tell us how it happened

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day well, I wasn’t there. But it appears that the Lord was breeding the creatures he made until they pleased him. Maybe he had to cut down their size to get them to fly and sing so as to please him.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams any proof from within the ark yet?

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day the dinosaurs are in my friend Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter. We don’t expect to find any sign of them in Noah’s Ark.

  • Robert Erwine
    Reply July 19, 2019

    Robert Erwine

    they died out over time

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 20, 2019

    Troy Day

    Philip Williams how can you explain what they did with all the poo … without a gap {theory}

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day God’s days of Creation aren’t man’s days.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams mans days are not mans days but God’s days He set them up Himself for the whole creation

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Philip Williams

      He set the sun to mark man’s days but one day with the Lord is as a thousand years of man’s days.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams but what did they do with all the poo on the ark?

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 20, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day some of the rooms we haven’t opened emit a terrible odor.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams so there is a scientific proof? Did anyone / anything die on the ark?

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day No evidence of that.

      But the official scientific survey begins this Fall.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams heard this many ol times before

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day from any official or anyone actually involved and responsible for the official scientific investigation?

      If so, I would be interested.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Troy Day

      YES Philip Williams he was the first to post this information many many years ago at the start of this group Seems like years later you guys are just following his earlier research ? https://www.facebook.com/640123439376008/posts/910248515696831

    • Philip Williams
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Philip Williams

      Troy Day We have analyzed all these previous expeditions and claims, many of them perfectly consistent with our own findings, but none of them from a controlled scientific expedition as the present case.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Troy Day

      Philip Williams well I just call them as I see them

    • Charles Page
      Reply July 21, 2019

      Charles Page

      Troy Day Their poo didn’t stink. Stinky poo was discovered by the northern Americans sometime after the Vikings discovered America!

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