Did this pastor hear from God about #TRUMP?

Posted by Timothy Carter in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

What is your response?

Did this pastor hear from God?

Is Donald Trump God’s man of the hour?

 

John Kissinger [08/18/2015 5:50 AM]
already discussed but go ahead – say what you think http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/trump-shall-become-gods-trumpet-to-america/

Billy Monroe Poff [08/18/2015 7:10 AM]
I have my own opinion on whether or not he indeed did hear from God on this, but opinions are just that…opinions. The truth of the matter will be revealed in whether or not what he says comes to pass. Test any word that man speaks as “the voice of God” by seeing whether or not what he says #1) lines up with the Word of God and #2) if it comes to pass. If it does not come to pass, then without a doubt it was not the voice of God that spoke, thereby destroying the man’s credibility as being able to hear and distinquish the voice of the Lord. If it does come to pass, then take heed. Simple as that….wait and see…

Timothy Carter [08/18/2015 7:37 AM]
Billy Monroe Poff please explain what you mean by TEST and LINES UP WITH THE WORD OF GOD ? Lets say for example you are standing by and you hear a person shouting out…hummm…something like…”Jesus Christ is going to come back driving around in a Chevy. He will hutch His Bride to the bumper and drag her through the stumble.”. What would you do? Charles Page Peter A Vanedever

John Kissinger [08/18/2015 7:40 AM]
yes Billy Monroe Poff this is an interesting and very significant for Pentecostalism today position. Pls elaborate if you have some new prophetic insights to this topic!

Billy Monroe Poff [08/18/2015 8:01 AM]
Just got to work. Will reply when I get back home this evening. Hope you all have a blessed day in the Lord!

Billy Monroe Poff [08/18/2015 8:47 PM]
Greetings. Timothy Carter and my other friend, (sorry I don’t know how to type your name on my English keyboard to tag you) All I was saying is that when I hear (or read) someone speak (or write) a prophecy, I am always at first skeptical unless I know the person personally and am aware of their integrity in spiritual matters. And even then, I always look at the prophecy through skeptical eyes first and then keep it in mind to see if it will come to pass. I have heard many many prophesies spoken that never came close to coming true. So this tells me that the person that spoke it did not hear it from the Lord, for if something comes from the voice of God, then it WILL surely come to pass. That doesn’t mean that the person who spoke it is a bad person or lacking spiritually. Sometimes very well meaning people have a hard time distinguishing the voice of the Lord apart from their own inner thoughts. Back when Obama was elected as president, a very well respected preacher prophesied to Sarah Palin and told her that the Lord had anointed her and she was going to win the election. Of course, we know that was not the outcome. So, when he prophesied that over her, I didn’t ridicule him (and still don’t) I just quietly waited to see if it would come to pass. The Bible tells us in 1Jn 4:1 “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” And even in this, I am not saying that this particular prophecy that started this thread is or isn’t from God. All I’m saying is to remember it. And wait and see if it comes to pass… Then it will be evident as to whether it was from God or not. Blessings to you my brothers!

52 Comments

  • Reply May 5, 2016

    Troy Day

    I for one think the guy is dead wrong because when it’s all said and done what exactly is Trump’s plan is for America? http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/what-is-donald-trumps-plan-is-for-america/

  • Reply May 6, 2016

    Bob Buckland

    The article isn’t worth reading because of the terrible syntax used in the title. Think about it, if the author has no more thought than to do that in the title, then why is the article any good?

  • Reply May 6, 2016

    Troy Day

    Jonathan Downie Jon Sellers David M. Hinsen

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      AaaaMmeeeeeennN!

  • Reply May 6, 2016

    Roger David

    I am all for choosing the lesser of two evils if that is the only choice you have. Less evil is better than more evil. That being said…I am not sure who the lesser evil will be in the upcoming November elections. Thankfully I’m not American so I’m not going to be held accountable for voting the wrong way :p

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      It is NEVER the only choice you have.

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      It is the easy choice

  • Reply May 6, 2016

    Troy Day

    Alan N Carla Smith David Lewayne Porter

  • Reply May 6, 2016

    Roger David

    My own mother (A Candian living near Toronto Ontario) just posted this…
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1716478871968796&set=a.1383811571902196.1073741829.100008200982068&type=3

  • Reply May 6, 2016

    Troy Day

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      Yawn

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    David M. Hinsen

    It’s going to be who it’s going to be. Let’s continue to look to God and focus on the Great Commission.

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    David M. Hinsen

    Does make for interesting conversation though

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    Jim Price

    Billy Monroe, that was well thought out response.

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    Troy Day

    The way to make America great again is through hard work and support of the middle class, not through demagogy and empty political words Stan Wayne David Lewayne Porter Billy Monroe Poff https://www.facebook.com/SolidGroundCords/videos/1749947568584860/

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      Billy Monroe Poff

      I believe America has passed it’s pinnacle. She will never be the great nation she once was. America as a whole as turned away from God. And woe unto the nation that forgets their God….

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      Troy Day

      Now you are sounding like Perry Stone 🙂 Roger David

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      Billy Monroe Poff

      There is a reason that the greatest most powerful nation on earth isnt even mentioned in the Bible when it talks about the end time wars…

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      David M. Hinsen

      Mic drop

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      Stan Wayne

      As for no mention – here are more not mentioned : China Japan India Mongolia Indonesia Malaysia African states besides Ethiopia South Africa Germany England France Korea Australia Chile Brazil Mexico

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    Troy Day

    Billy Monroe Poff I too believe that GOD is Sounding The Warning #TRUMP to America http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/sounding-the-warning-trump-to-america/

  • Reply May 7, 2016

    Tom Steele

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      Lord I hope not.

    • Reply May 7, 2016

      Tom Steele

      I will admit, I about fell over when I saw this shirt at the mall. That has to be one of the funniest jokes I have seen in this whole mess so far.

  • Reply May 11, 2016

    Troy Day

    William DeArteaga H vs Trump Jon Sellers called it long long ago in a galaxy not far away https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=trump+gop&eob=m.09c7w0/D/5/short/m.09c7w0/ My cause has lost the battle, for now, and it is only fair that I now publicly proclaim what path makes the most sense going forward for those of us who find Hillary Clinton contemptible, the further advancement of secular progressive liberalism unthinkable, and who believe in the basic principles on which our country was founded. Our cause does not have a candidate in this election, and that needs to be the first point made…

    • Reply May 11, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      Exactly

    • Reply May 11, 2016

      John Conger

      lol

    • Reply May 12, 2016

      Karen Lucas

      lol

  • Reply May 12, 2016

    Troy Day

    John Conger David Lewayne Porter Stan Wayne

    • Reply May 12, 2016

      David Lewayne Porter

      And sadly that is the way they look at it

  • Reply May 12, 2016

    John Conger

    lol

  • Reply May 12, 2016

    Troy Day

  • Reply May 12, 2016

    Stan Wayne

    “If You Don’t Know Me By Now”

    If you don’t know me by now
    You will never never never know me

    All the things
    That we’ve been through
    You should understand me
    Like I understand you
    Now girl I know the difference
    Between right and wrong
    I ain’t gonna do nothing
    To break up our happy home
    Don’t get so excited
    When I come home
    A little late at night
    Cos we only act like children
    When we argue fuss and fight

    If you don’t know me by now
    You will never never never know me

    We’ve all got our
    Own funny moods
    I’ve got mine,
    Woman you’ve got yours too
    Just trust in me like I trust in you
    As long as we’ve been together
    It should be so easy to do
    Just get yourself together
    Or we might as well say goodbye
    What good is a love affair
    When you can’t see eye to eye

    If you don’t know me by now
    You will never
    Never never know me

  • Reply May 12, 2016

    Troy Day

    TRUE or FALSE
    ?

  • Reply May 12, 2016

    Stan Wayne

    Amen

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 3, 2016

    Troy Day

    Stan Wayne Did he now? Did he hear or not? Alan Carl

  • Stan Wayne
    Reply July 3, 2016

    Stan Wayne

    I say no but I am still for Trump for other reasons

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 3, 2016

    Troy Day

    Reasonable stand Jon Sellers

  • Stan Wayne
    Reply July 3, 2016

    Stan Wayne

    I have the reasonable stand, right? 😉

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 3, 2016

    Troy Day

    IMO Christians are ‘called to resist’ Trump Jon Sellers Terry Wiles
    http://religionnews.com/2016/05/01/christian-resistance-donald-trump/

    • Terry Wiles
      Reply July 3, 2016

      Terry Wiles

      Troy Day. After the comments I read earlier from l. Bailey on the absence of one main teacher/preacher in the early church and comparing prophecy in 1 Corinthians 14 with anything remotely happening in a Pentecostal/Charismatic church today and the many comments concerning Bishops wives in another sister site I truly believe “resisting” is common among many posters on this site. 🙂

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 3, 2016

    Troy Day

  • Troy Day
    Reply October 14, 2016

    Troy Day

    Billy Monroe Poff had a great comment on this on Stan Wayne just put some song to cover up

  • Charles Page
    Reply October 14, 2016

    Charles Page

    No doubt that God is telling pastors about Hillary being His man of the hour!

  • Charles Page
    Reply October 14, 2016

    Charles Page

    Maybe God is just getting us to vote. registering voters.

  • Troy Day
    Reply October 14, 2016

    Troy Day

  • Jeanette Elizondo
    Reply October 15, 2016

    Jeanette Elizondo

    Yes !!!

  • Richard Gault
    Reply October 15, 2016

    Richard Gault

    Plantagenet Family Church
    Prophecy-Guidelines-Plantagenet Family Church
    GUIDELINES FOR GIVING PERSONAL PROPHECY
    These instructions are for the safe delivery of the prophetic in small groups, person to person, and the large gatherings.
    Prophecy is an inspired utterance (presumably from God) that a person, gives to either another, or to a group.
    According to 1st Corinthians 14:3: Prophecy is to edify, exhort and comfort.
    These three words are the biblical boundaries of prophetic words that are to be used towards one another in Plantagenet Family Church.
    Prophecy is an utterance that is to be delivered with humility and love
    (1 Corinthians 14:1-3)
    Prophecy is to be evaluated (1 Cor 14:29) and therefore should not be a secretive or private thing, and must always be in accord with the objective word of God, “The Holy Bible”.
    Prophecy should never be a vehicle for bringing personal correction to someone under the guise of “God says” or “I think God says”
    We must be very careful that we do not take the name of the Lord in vain.
    Prophecies that are directive either personal or public, i.e. “The Lord is saying you must sell your house and go to Mongolia.” are forbidden.
    This type of utterance is particularly dangerous to immature Christians and has brought the whole ministry of the prophetic into disrepute. (Mature Christians are able to discern and disregard counterfeit manifestations)
    Therefore, if one receives a word that does not fall within the boundaries of encouragement, exhortation and comfort, the rule in Plantagenet Family Church is that this word must be submitted to the Pastors to judge.(before speaking to the person)
    The person who has submitted this word to the Pastors has then discharged their responsibility. The proper authorities will then have the responsibility to pastorally convey (or pray).
    Do not violate a person’s dignity
    Sometimes God may give a mature Christian an insight into another person’s struggles or issues, but in most cases this would be a call for private not public prayer and intercession on behalf of the person.
    If necessary seek counsel from the Pastoral team who has the overall responsibility for the church.
    Remember: it’s not about control but it’s about credibility, integrity and safety.
    When delivering a word from God (that we humbly trust is inspired,) it is an acceptable and recommended practice to preface what is said by honestly saying
    “this is a word that I feel or sense from God for you”
    When you have given a word, take responsibility and ask the question “does this make any sense, or how has this affected you?”
    It is unacceptable to give a word and then walk away from it and not be involved pastorally as the person processes the word you gave them.
    If you are not prepared to be a biblical brother or sister walking in unity and love, don’t presume to speak into a person’s life.
    We are a body that is committed to building one another up.
    Cryptic words (ostensibly from God) that leave a person confused, disturbed, condemned or upset are unacceptable.
    New Testament operation of the prophetic is not to be modeled on Old Testament prophets. (Many prophetic people who are independent are seduced into believing they are Gods Law enforcement officers)
    The prophetic that is delivered independent of the shepherd’s heart of the Lord Jesus is suspect. All ministry needs to be based on a thorough New Covenant understanding of the heart of the Lord Jesus Christ (The shepherd)
    “All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine for reproof, for correction and for instruction in righteousness” (2nd Tim 3:16)
    The scriptures are given to us not for our own private “whatever seems right to me”, interpretation, but for the collective wisdom of the body to determine.
    Much error and heresy could have been prevented throughout church history if individuals would humbly submit their views and revelations for the collective wisdom of the body rather than construct a private interpretation.
    If doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction for righteousness must be regulated by scripture, it follows that in the same way, prophecy (which is a valid ministry of the Holy Spirit) must be protected and regulated Biblically by the collective wisdom of the body – as we (with humility) submit our revelations and ideas to scripture and one another.
    Finally, Plantagenet Family Church is a safe place to grow and develop in our ministry together so, have a go and we will learn as we grow.
    Original by Eric Stillman March 2006

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