Many need deliverance from Doubting Thomas

Posted by Peter A Vandever in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

Many people need deliverance from the spirit of Doubting Thomas.

Charles Page [08/22/2015 4:26 PM]
I knew Peter had a spirit, Judas had a spirit now Thomas had a spirit…did all the disciples have spirits? At the last supper it seemed they all had spirits.

Peter A Vandever [08/22/2015 4:27 PM]
did you read it?

Charles Page [08/22/2015 4:28 PM]
Yes

Peter A Vandever [08/22/2015 8:56 PM]
What you think?

Charles Page [08/22/2015 9:10 PM]
the spirit of doubting is overcome by hearing the rightly divided word. Some of God’s children are stiffnecked and resist the Holy Ghost.

John Kissinger [08/22/2015 10:58 PM]
How many people exactly?

Charles Page [08/22/2015 11:07 PM]
435,894,637

John Kissinger [08/22/2015 11:10 PM]
Usually when Peter A Vandever says “many people” he means 2 or 3 at most

Peter A Vandever [08/22/2015 11:11 PM]
Most of the Western Church needs deliverance from doubting lol

Charles Page [08/22/2015 11:14 PM]
how many western churches?

Peter A Vandever [08/22/2015 11:19 PM]
100%

Charles Page [08/22/2015 11:22 PM]
all Amerikan churches!!!

Charles Page [08/23/2015 6:05 AM]
speaking in tongues are for doubting churches. Prophecy is for believing churches. Believing churches need comfort, edification and exhortation; a medium for greater growth.

Doubting churches are unbelieving and unlearned churches and their doubt is directed toward the believing churches. They THINK God is with them and that He is NOT with the believing churches. They exist inn a medium of doubt, negativity and strong institutional loyalty. Their medium promotes wealth, buildings, hierarchy and a fortified institution. They use a gelding process to make their followers mules.

Ed Lane [08/28/2015 11:33 AM]
say what?

9 Comments

  • RichardAnna Boyce
    Reply April 28, 2019

    RichardAnna Boyce

    Unhealthy religious unbiblical words focus on what we have to do, not what Jesus has done for us in the New Covenant, and are not found in the New Covenant, for example:-
    Making a decision for Christ, making a commitment, dedicating my life, paying the price, pressing in, breaking through, servant, steps to, on the cutting edge, blessing sowing seeds, revival which means to bring back to life (but we already have eternal life), impartation (implying that we lack), deliverance (implying we have something we shouldn’t have).
    Breaking curses, recommitment/dedicate (cause the first commitment circuit didn’t work).
    These are not part of the pattern of sound words used by the Apostles to lay a foundation for the church structure to build on today. Surely we are fighting FROM deliverance (being IN the Delivered One), not TOWARDS deliverance?

  • RichardAnna Boyce
    Reply April 28, 2019

    RichardAnna Boyce

    John 20:24-25 Thomas’s affirmation—“My Lord and my God!”—is one of the most dramatic and powerful statements in all of Scripture about Jesus’ deity. This is powerful evidence that Jesus indeed guarantees eternal life to all who believe in Him (cf. v 31; 11:25-27).

    Thomas was already born again. However, he had likely stopped believing that Jesus was the Messiah (cf. Luke 24:21; see discussion above under vv John 20:3-10). “Do not be unbelieving, but believing” likely concerns not only believing in His bodily resurrection, but returning to believe in Him as Messiah.

    John 20:3-10 Also raises the question of do you lose salvation if you stop believing? IMHO it is not a deliverance question.

    John then went in also; and he saw and believed. John previously believed that Jesus had given him eternal life (2:11; 13:10). He was already born again. Now John believes that Jesus had risen from the dead. However, in light of what the two unnamed disciples said to Jesus on the road to Emmaus—“we were hoping [prior to His crucifixion] that it was He who was going to redeem Israel” (Luke 24:21)—it is quite possible that John temporary stopped believing that Jesus was the Messiah. (Of course, since he had believed, he remained eternally secure; cf. John 5:24; 6:35-40; 11:25-27). His faith in Jesus is fully restored at this point.

    John had not believed when he heard Mary’s report. He believed when he saw the empty tomb for himself.

  • Tom Torbeyns
    Reply April 28, 2019

    Tom Torbeyns

    John 1:12-13 contradicts what you wrote there…

  • Charles Page
    Reply April 28, 2019

    Charles Page

    Doubting churches are unbelieving and unlearned churches and their doubt is directed toward the believing churches. They THINK God is with them and that He is NOT with the believing churches. They exist in a medium of doubt, negativity and strong institutional loyalty. Their medium promotes wealth, buildings, hierarchy and a fortified institution. They use a gelding process to make their followers mules.

  • Link Hudson
    Reply April 29, 2019

    Link Hudson

    The original article is not visible. I get an error when I click the link.

    • Troy Day
      Reply April 29, 2019

      Troy Day

      You dont get an error from the Link
      You get an error when you try to access the FB post
      It looks like Peter Vandever has blocked the original article

    • Link Hudson
      Reply April 29, 2019

      Link Hudson

      That’s the link I was talking about.

    • Troy Day
      Reply April 29, 2019

      Troy Day

      That is not a link but a FB post – it could be taken down or you could be blocked from seeing it The link in OP goes to a website that is working fine but does not disregard FB privacy rules

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