life January 17, 2018 Would you counsel against abortion? Randy Buchanan | PentecostalTheology.com Suppose you have counseled against an abortion. The woman still chooses to proceed with the abortion and asks if you would accompany her to the clinic or hospital. How would you respond? abortioncounsel PentecostalTheology .com Previous articleBLESSED IS THE MAN! Next articleDr. Dave Mathewson, New Testament Literature, Lecture 37, Excursus: Revelation 2 27 Comments Reply December 12, 2017 SJ Newell I would treat it the same as if the child were already born and she was asking if you would accompany her and the child to a location where it would be killed. So pass. Reply December 12, 2017 Crissy Ramirez I would go. Meditate and pray the Lord intervenes. If she still goes along, continue to pray and support. Abortion isn’t easy especially if she came to you. I would go Reply December 12, 2017 John-Mark Neal Hales No way! Sometimes the most loving option is the harshest Reply December 12, 2017 Ricky Grimsley Would you go to a bar and sit with a parishioner while they got drunk? Reply December 12, 2017 Gideon Swords Go! sometimes people just need another person regardless of whether or not they agree with them she knows you don’t agree and you counseled her otherwise and she still wants you there Reply December 12, 2017 Gideon Swords Everyone makes wrong decisions and our job is to remind people that they are more than those decisions and they are called to the inherent good in which God created them in his image Reply December 12, 2017 John-Mark Neal Hales I’m willing to bet you don’t believe in excommunication, do you Gideon? Reply December 12, 2017 Mandy Mash Hamon What if, at the last minute, she doesn’t go through with it because of something you said to her on the way there? Go. Encourage her to save the child. Pray with her before she goes in. Just never stop trying, never stop praying, it is a matter of life and death! Reply December 12, 2017 Mary Katherine ORear Tippitt No i wouldnt go. Itd be just likely assisting in the sin. No. Its murder. Reply December 12, 2017 April Schluckebier No, I would not go. We can’t “go along”…we must stand! Reply December 12, 2017 Ricky Grimsley Devil’s advocate …..In the Old Testament God wasnt necessarily against killing children or pregnant women in certain circumstances. Deuteronomy 2:34 KJVS  And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Reply December 12, 2017 Nathan Ridgeway You should not ask this question unless you know the answer. What would you do? Reply December 12, 2017 Mary Katherine ORear Tippitt The commandments clearly state THOU SHAL NOT KILL. Reply December 12, 2017 Greg Baldwin Question before I make an observation Did the counselor tell her abortion is murder? Reply December 12, 2017 Christopher Noel Boggess My conscience will not allow me but i will be praying for you Reply December 12, 2017 Varnel Watson Terry Wiles What kind of liberal view question is this now – loosely constructed and morally loose? In what capacity have you counseled – a friend, a pastor, a chaplain, a social worker, a parent, husband or a doctor? Suppose you were the doctor performing the abortion it may help if you were present. Reply December 13, 2017 Randy Buchanan I would accompany her and continue to try to convince her not to go through with the abortion. If she still chose to do so I would continue to treat her the way Jesus treated the Samaritan woman and the woman taken in adultery. He answered their questions, dealt with their sin without condemnation and as a result others were brought to Him because He showed love without condemnation. Nathan Ridgeway Reply December 13, 2017 Varnel Watson Randy Buchanan you would accompany in what capacity? Reply December 13, 2017 Bill Terrell James said if anyone lacks wisdom let him asked God who gives freely,also the Holy Spirit is our guide night is like day to God,every situation and person is different we are talking about two lives,what do you want to do lord manifest your power and wisdom in this situation show me what to do. Reply December 13, 2017 Scotty Searan Jesus did go and eat with the sinners, but no where can you find Jesus going into an establishment or business of ill repute such as a barroom I do not believe that Jesus Christ would treat this any different than any other murder. Murder is sin. Would Jesus Christ go with someone to kill and rob another Jesus has already given his wisdom in his word on this issue. Reply December 13, 2017 Bill Terrell Yes the Bible holds the wisdom but the problem isn’t the Bible it’s Man interpreting things according to the flesh the same thing the Pharisees did with the woman caught in adultery that’s why we have the word of wisdom and knowledge and God knows the heart of Man eye has not seen nor ear has herd the things God prepared for them that love Him but He has revealed it to us by His Spirit. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. Reply December 13, 2017 Andrew T. Stube If you were at a mixed Chinese, Christian and Anceterral worship would you wave the incense wands? Reply December 13, 2017 Dennis D. Niles Godly inspired common sense would say…NO! Reply December 13, 2017 Varnel Watson Scotty Searan I would still like to know in what capacity. We cant be shooting blind advice in this group when we dont have all the facts together Reply December 13, 2017 Scotty Searan My wife and I was faced with the question of abortion with our youngest son. The gynecologist said there was 90% chance he would be born with birth defects.. He will be 38 years old December 26. If there was anything wrong with him, and I don’t call it a birth defect, He was hyper. But that’s boys for you. Now I have counseled 2 young ladies in our neighborhood. One followed my wife and I advised and did not have an abortion. Yes, my wife, was faced, even after we coucil the other one, with being asked to carry her to have an abortion. My wife would not take her to have an abortion. My wife had been carrying the young lady to the Dr., but it would have been a late term abortion. I was working. But we both counseled the young lady extensively. But here is the odd thing. She said the My wife and I was faced with the question of abortion with our youngest son. The gynecologist said there was 90% chance he would be born with birth defects. prayer with us and we thought she was coming along well, because we shared the Bible with her. But when my wife refused to take her to get an abortion she called my wife and me about anything she could say including profanity. She has refused to have any contact with us since then. Reply December 14, 2017 Randy Buchanan The thing is if all we as Christians do is “intervene” when it is easy for us then we’re not living the Christ centered life! Christians, every single one, are meant to be ambassadors and ministers to those we encounter daily. Do you really think it is an easy choice for people to make and to get an abortion? Of course not! Agape love requires availability during all stages of pain, turmoil, indecision and sorrow. If we are not willing to make ourselves available people will find others outside of the body of Christ who are! That will drive them further and further away from Christ! Why? All because we want to say, “look what I stand for! I won’t associate with sinners because they sin!” I’ve got news for you! Sinners sin! You did before coming to Christ and I did before coming to Christ. That’s because the sin in inherent and stays that way until redemption through Christ! Jesus was know for hanging out with publicans and tax collectors! He drank wine with them (not grape juice.) He always went out to the people! He made Himself available. He brought healing through word, deed, and revelation. That’s the portrait of the Spirit filled life painted by the Creator! If so called believers want to pontificate about their righteousness while doing nothing but condemning people for being who they are, sinners, those believers, like the Pharisees before them, have their own rewards! I’d rather be willing to take a chance of spoiling my “reputation” and reach others to keep them from the eternal fires of hell than to stand back and do nothing! Reply December 14, 2017 Varnel Watson Terry Wiles I see your point – is it the wrong choice to support a wrong choice? John-Mark Neal Hales Your attempt for Biblical clarity here is well recognized Here is a straight Biblical example – would any active pastor here support Mary the Mother of Jesus in abortion after she realized Joseph was not the father? ( I do hope for the sake of defeating recent liberal voices in the group yalls answer is No!) Leave a Reply Click here to cancel reply. Leave a Reply to Gideon Swords Cancel replyComment Name Email Website Δ This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.