In Romans 8:35 and 8:39, is it “Christ’s love” and “God’s love” [subjective/objective]? Or, “love for Christ” and “love for God”? I can see it both ways but I think the context is about endurance and Paul is saying that nothing would be able to separate the saints from their love for God and his Christ. Here is the context which I modified from “love of” to “love for”:
Young’s Literal Translation (YLT):
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love for Christ? shall
tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or
peril, or sword? Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are
killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through
him that loved us [God]. Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither
death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor
things present, nor things to come, Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth,
nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love for
God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
If it is “love for God” then the definite article refers to the love “shed abroad” in the believers’ hearts:
YLT
Rom 5:3 And not only so , but we also boast in the tribulations,
knowing that the tribulation doth work endurance; Rom 5:4 and the
endurance, experience; and the experience, hope; Rom 5:5 and the
hope doth not make ashamed, because the love of God hath been poured
forth in our hearts through the Holy Spirit that hath been given to
us.
Rom 8:28 And we have known that to those loving God all things do
work together for good, to those who are called according to purpose;
Craig Theisen
man of sin , the son of perdition :O
Dean Brown
You should study 2nd Thessalonians verse 2 through 12
Ronaa Dincard
the old serpent
Ras Bayles
Now this is probably one of the most important questions I’ve seen. Because even the Bible says there will be a great falling away.
When answering this question I like to look at the example given to us by Jesus 1st coming. Who deceived Israel during Jesus 1st coming? If you know the answer to this then you will know the answer to who will deceive us now.
Heck, A LOT of Christians have already been deceived.
Mxolisi Mhlungu
Evil trinity,the Antichrist, the devil the dragon
Grace Williams
Satan, Antichrist and false prophet
Daniel Lee Watson
Catholics, islam , christianity
Debbie Sherman
The Antichrist and the False prophet. The false prophet is setting the stage for the antichrist
Mike Brotherton
Besides false prophets and those who think they know something they don’t? Antichrist. Some are here is this room.
Susan J Powell
It’s been deceived for generations…
Butch Fomby
Revelation 12:9
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
Salvatore Molitierno
the devil will deceive those who believe in y
Salvatore Molitierno
the rapture
Danny Gilmer
The Anti-Christ is a man (..has eyes of a man Dan 7:8)who perceives to take the place of God (speaks great words against the Most HIgh Dan7:8 Dan 7:25 …..shall think to change (God’s)times and (God’s)laws )Dan 7:25 and is the leader of the Anti-Christ system which is both religious and political.(cannot buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast (nation) power.(honoring the beast by honoring it’s laws instead of honoring God and God’s Laws) Rev 13:17 ……and all the world wondered after the beast (nation-AC ) Rev 13:3….that religious political power is prevalent today. It is the smallest nation on the earth but has tremendous wealth and political and religious power and is gaining influence and power by aligning itself with many religions and nations of the world …..this system has been working for decades to be the religious leader of the world………….. and all the world marvels,is amazed, at this power-nation Rev 13:3…
Butch Fomby
SATAN…
Onuoha Chukwudi
ILLEGAL SEX
Craig Theisen
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise “false Christs”, and “false prophets”, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall “deceive the very elect”. 25 Behold, I have told you “before”.
Onuoha Chukwudi
BECAUSE IT IS THE EASIEST WAY THE DEVIL USES TO PENATRETE
Jair Johnson
I will….I always do…
I am,that,I am…before life was,I am.. #GODasGOD MAGethos one church
Peter Kariuki KE
I feel strongly its Pope
Lorna Taitano
Satan. and those he uses. False religions, false teachings and also the man of perdition. Could be a Muslim?
Alex Sinclair
Lucifer has already deceived the whole world. Only the elect, the chosen children of God remain undeceived by the “God” of this world.
Edith Neumaier
the question should be who does deceive the whole world.
James Scott
James Scott
The deception already here..
Angela Louise Soto
Not everyone is going to be deceived..
Amy Himmelright
False prophet
Travis Halleck
This group
Adam James Gee
The United States Machine, It’s happening right in front of your eyes, if you didn’t notice.
Joshua Ugbajeh
Satan
James Finkle
All ready happen devil uses man to do it every day