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Gerardo de Dominicis
Interesting but the Temple was in Judah, not in Israel. Achab and Jezabel were reigning in the north, so the Solomon’s temple was operational. Elijah was sent to the house of Israel not the house of Judah.
Varnel Watson
and right there is the answer of Link question
Link Hudson
Troy Day. I do not see an answer for that question. Israel was in rebellion not sacrificing in the right place.
Elijah may not have seen this, though, unless his ‘torn down your altars’ was a complaint against heritage sites rather than recently active locations.
Link Hudson
Gerardo de Dominicis I just wanted to amen the part about Jezebel not being in charge of the temple of temple of the LORD.
Was it the author of kings or Chronicles or both as to whether they tore down the high places? Some of the high places could have been okay pre-temple, unless they were pagan high places. Before Moriah was pointed out Israelites were allowed to sacrifice on altars all over the place. Israel rebelled with Jeroboam against the proper place of sacrifice.
The question is why could Elijah sacrifice on Mt. Carmel. Did Carmel constitute a high place? Did lighting the fire constitute sacrificing as opposed to killing it? He said he did it at the Lord’s word. Did God’ command cteate an exception for him from the Torah? This was a great moment of turning Israel somewhat back to the Lord.
After this the king would have most of his court prophets falsely prophesy to him in the name of Yahweh instead of prophets of Baal and Ashteroth. Many of the people changed and probably then sacrificed in the wrong places to Yahweh rather than Baal.
Varnel Watson
This is the answer for that question regardless if you see it or not The Bible is never wrong
Link Hudson
Troy Day your answer or Gerardo’s? There were 2 kingdoms. Jezebel was in the northern kingdom, not the southern kingdom of Judah where the temple was.
When the temple was destroyed Jews stopped sacrificing.
Gerardo de Dominicis
Link Hudson I think wasn’t a Levitical sacrifice because only the priests were allowed to perform them, that’s why it was done in a mount and not in the Temple (besides the fact the they weren’t in Judah). Not being a levitical sacrifice then wasn’t a problem not being in the temple. My opinion is that all was staged to show the Israelis that Baal has no power and that even in Baal’s high places Jehovah is God.
Varnel Watson
GOD accepted the burnt offering so it was acceptable according to the Bible The temple was not largely open for prophets to burn offerings We see Elijah 3 times in the Bible outside the temple
1. the OT prophet
2. John the baptists – Elijah to come
3. Elijah of Revelation (to this should be added the Transfiguration narrative, which also represents Elijah glorified without him ever dying but raptured and translated in the heavens with God through the chariots of fire )
Link Hudson
Troy Day The book of Revelation does not mention Elijah.
Link Hudson
Gerardo de Dominicis Israelites were not allowed to perform ‘non-Levitical’ sacrifices and burnt offerings anymore after the ‘place the Lord your God shall choose’ was designated in one of the tribes.
Sacrifice and burnt offering then became the domain of the priests.
The issue here is whether what Elijah did was a divinely ordained exception, or if it somehow did not qualify as a forbidden sacrifice.
Varnel Watson
it is understood that when there is a Jezebel God also raises an Elijah – Revelation does mention 2 witnesses
Link Hudson
Troy Day It does not call either of them Elijah. We aren’t cessaitionists, so a literal prophet from the Old Testament doesn’t have to come down for there to be prophets. Did you get the Elijah interpretation from a cessaionist’s pre-trib book? You know Darby was a cessaionist as well.
Varnel Watson
true – but it does call the 2 men on Mt of transfiguration by name Also, Enoch and Elijah were raptured and translated into the heavens so there you have it BTW “cessaionist’s pre-trib book?” – ahahahah you literally have not a clue what you are talking about and so often your purely baptist background just leaks out without nothing able to stop it 🙂
Link Hudson
Troy Day Was Pentecost Pentecostal?
Varnel Watson
you have to ask a “cessaionist’s pre-tribber” 🙂
Link Hudson
you like to get a lot of mileage out of a comprehensible typo.
Gerardo de Dominicis
Link Hudson I think it wasn’t a sacrifice to the Lord, only a demonstration of power from God, that’s why Elijah was able to perform it. For it being a sacrifice to God would mean agreeing with someone against his own commandment. In this case was God himself who sent the fire from heaven, it wasn’t lighted by Elijah so I think there’s an important difference. It wasn’t about a man presenting an offer before God but about God showing he’s the real God. I’m only guessing but it seems that the practice of having high places to worship Jehovah weren’t finished with the Solomonic Temple, so there could be a distinction between the high places dedicated to other deities and the high places dedicated to Jehovah, like the place were the samaritans used to worship after the Babylonian invasion until Christ’s time.
Link Hudson
Gerardo de Dominicis I tend to view it sinilarly. Elijah did not offer a burnt offering because God lit the fire. But sacrifices were to be made in the temple and he killed it.
God seemed to tolerate high place sacrifices to Himself.
I wonder if Elijah did havea theological blindspot about the Lord’s altars being concerned that they were overthrown. But he could have thought of their value as monuments.
Gerardo de Dominicis
Link Hudson yup, actually the text says that Elijah repaired the altar OF THE LORD that was destroyed, so maybe the high places in Israel were tolerated because the temple was in the southern kingdom.
Link Hudson
Gerardo de Dominicis. the altar could have been built before the temple. He said to God later “…they have torn down your altars.”
Varnel Watson
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