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Varnel Watson
according to PEW majority of preachers have not read a single book in the past year Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Troy Day and that’s a shame
RichardAnna Boyce
Charles Bing and Jodie Dillow books
Henry Milligan
Charles Finney
Varnel Watson
so no systematic theology book thus far?
RichardAnna Boyce
Lewis Sperry Chafer (Systematic Theology, completed 1947)
Varnel Watson
wow Chafer 🙂 lots in theology since him
RichardAnna Boyce
none better as his Free Grace will be Jesus’s book in Millennium hehehe
John Duncan
The Nature of the Atonment
Greg Baldwin
Wayne Grudem Systematic Theology
J Rodman Williams, Renewal Theology
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
Greg Baldwin Both Calvinist!
Greg Baldwin
Robert Shank, Elect in The Son and Life in the Son
Greg Baldwin
Finis Dake, God’s Plan for Man
Varnel Watson
speaking of systematic theology alone I would go with
Erickson
Horton
Grudem
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
Gruden is a spirit-filled Calvinist! ( Is there such a person!)
Brian Roden
Some have observed that it is through the Charismatic Calvinists that Reformed soteriology/TULIP is making inroads into classicaly Arminian Pentecostal groups. We like their defense of the continuation of the gifts, so we start using their material as textbooks. But unless we specifically point out where the disagreements are (soteriology, women in ministry leadership, etc.), their views start taking hold among those who consume their writings indiscriminately.
I was just talking with a fellow minister at a district function yesterday who said a young man from his church had gone full TULIP and enrolled in Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (where the seminary president is Jason K. Allen, a protege of Albert Mohler from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary)
Greg Baldwin
Brian Roden
Many years ago a great Holiness preacher sat me down and explained books to me. Very simple but true. Use them like eating fish. Throw away the bone. It is sad if someone ( young novice) let’s say doesn’t know the difference
The preacher who took time with me was Mike Roberts from Richlands VA
Brian Roden
Greg Baldwin At least he used the proper meat and bones illustration. I too often hear it where people are talking like it’s steak or pork chops — super easy to tell the difference. Separating fish meat from bones takes training and skill — which is why when I was little, my mother would pick through my Ma-ma’s fried catfish for me, mashing the meat up to make sure the bones were extracted before she put the plate in front of me. Discernment doesn’t just happen; it has to be honed.
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
Foundations of Pentecostal Theology and Stanley Horton’s Systematic Theology.
Greg Baldwin
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
I have The Foundations of Pentecostal Theology
I will use it a little more
I may have been overlooking a treasure
Greg Baldwin
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
I have found Stanley Horton rather general and not very deep
I sold his stuff in my 1st library but will add it to my current studies
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
I have Bible soft and have both on my computer. I have in print the Full life Bible commentary by French Arlington and Roger Stonghart. I also got my Dake’s, Hayford’s Bible Handbook, and Jimmy Swaggert’s Expositors Study Bible.
Varnel Watson
Horton is general but in a good way
Brian Roden
Greg Baldwin The weakness of Dr. Horton’s volume was that it was an edited collection of chapters by multiple scholars. It didn’t cohere as well as a systematic theology written by one person (like Erickson, Grenz, or Grudem) or a pair/small team (Lewis and Demarest).
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
Check out Arminians Society recommended books, plenty of good theologians and Arminian web sites.
Greg Baldwin
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
Thanks
Brian Roden
http://www.evangelicalarminians.org
Louise Cummings
Bible, Like a Mighty Army understand Parables , by Brian Cutshall
Johnny Baca Sr.
The only book I read is the bible
Varnel Watson
speaks volumes Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Louise Cummings
Johnny Baca Sr. You can’t beat that.
Varnel Watson
hey Cecil Carpenter you should ask Greg Robinson about the 3 theological books they had them read @ Regent 🙂
Greg Robinson
Troy Day I was merely making an attempt at humor…. I did not read Erickson at Regent. We read a variety of Pentecostal/ Charismatic scholars. I’m not sure what’s required there now.
Varnel Watson
pls tell us YOUR TOP 3 of that variety – I think Erickson should be pre-req for getting into any Bible college – like before NT 101
Varnel Watson
ok you are right one of them was Erickson not even Pentecostal per se 🙂
Varnel Watson
what are surprise it would be if someone connected reading of theology books with best TOP preachers out there 🙂 Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Troy Day wouldn’t that be amazing but you know over in Pentecost to read anything beside the Bible is a sin
Varnel Watson
they dont teach you that in seminary (I think)
Louise Cummings
I never knew that.
Brian Roden
I read so many as assignments for my MATS, plus others I picked up because of interest areas, it’s hard to name the top 3. So I’ll just go for some very influential ones.
Paul, the Spirit, and the People of God by Gordon Fee
The Transforming Power of Grace by Thomas Oden
Salvation by Allegiance Alone by Matthew Bates
Varnel Watson
Fee Oden good choices – what is MATS?
Brian Roden
Troy Day Master of Arts in Theological Studies — 48 hour degree. Kind of the academic/research courses of an MDiv, but not the counseling/preaching type classes.
Varnel Watson
I should have known Back in the day my MDiv ended being 120hrs incl CPE – like another BA almost In a basic comparison a MBA is just about 50hrs while 1 of my semesters I ended up 26 hrs incl Greek and Hebrew 🙂
Varnel Watson
FIRE from HEAVEN ?