Has anyone here heard of the Ryrie study bible, if so whats your view please?
John Kissinger [07/11/2015 9:26 PM]
John Kissinger [07/11/2015 9:27 PM]
and some more: http://cupandcross.com/2013-revival-of-study-bibles-reviews/
Roger Wilkinson [07/11/2015 9:40 PM]
Can’t find it in there
John Ruffle [07/12/2015 12:05 AM]
Seen it, never studied the notes. As a new believer 43 years ago, I had the NASB (1st edition thank goodness); and a KJV Thompson’s a Chain Reference. A little later I became the proud owner of a Dakes (but please don’t read a particular theological conviction into that!) These days the New Kong James is my base-line bible. Would a syudy bibke help me and if so, which one ?
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 12:18 AM]
I’m not into study notes to be honest, however I heard tge Ryrie study bible is a lot like the chain reference with minimal notes
Ricard A. Bayless [07/12/2015 12:21 AM]
I like my Ryrie… good size, decent notes, HOWEVER notes are not the inspired Word. Use caution.
Bob Scull [07/12/2015 1:09 AM]
It should be a given that notes in any Study Bible are not the Inspired Word.
Ricard A. Bayless [07/12/2015 1:11 AM]
It should be a given, however I know people that quote them as if they were scripture.
Bill Heth [07/12/2015 4:28 AM]
Dr. Ryrie was my theology prof at Dallas Theological Seminary in the early 1980s. I collaborated on a writing project with him. He is the author of several books, including the Moody Publication, *Basic Theology.* A condensed note version of that theology is appended to his study Bible. Ryrie is a premillennial dispensationalist Calminian (half way between Calvinism and Arminianism). Much more up to date and with amazing notes, illustrations, etc., is the *NIV Study Bible* and even better, the *ESV Study Bible.” The latter is strongly Reformed in theology (Calvinism) but sympathetic with some charismatic and Pentecostal concerns (but not a post-salvation baptism in the Spirit, which Ryrie also would say takes place in every believer at the moment of saving faith). Hope that helps.
John Kissinger [07/12/2015 8:50 AM]
I’ve used the Ryrie Bible back in the day as well as his Systematic Theology volume. I do not recall any open Calvinism being proposed, but it makes sense being from Dallas Theological. I do recall ultra Calvinists completely rejecting Ryrie’s sys. Theology on grounds of unorthodoxy.
Ryrie Bible is strongly pre-Trib rapture – very strongly! On a “pre-trib Study Bible scale” (pls. reference this fine term I just coined when mentioned in your class Rick Wadholm Jr), Ryrie was less than Dake, but definitely more than Scofield. The pre-trib portion of Ryrie Study Bible was perhaps modeled after Chriswell’s study Bible(s). Chriswell later published a purely Baptist Study Bible.
We also have a Pentecostal Study Bible called at times Fire Bible, Life in the Spirit and Full Life. I guess a Baptist Study Bible could be called Half-Life (after the popular game). Hence, if Pentecostal theology is Full-life (full-of-life), Calvinist seems to be more appropriate as Half-life (same counts for this fine term here Rick Wadholm Jr ). And thanks to everyone’s prayers who just received a 3 point msg. for their AM service reading this post (life, half-life or full-life: the choice is yours). We also offer a more reformed msg. Life, half-life or full-life: which one were you predestined for? And no, I cannot teach you how to do that, but you can attend Trinity (starting next month) where Rick Wadholm Jr can teach you 🙂
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 11:32 AM]
Thanks any suggestions on a post trib influence study bible?
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 11:33 AM]
Rick Wadholm Jr [07/12/2015 2:09 PM]
With the addition of a number of up-to-date study Bibles to choose from there is really little reason to revert to the Ryrie Study Bible which offers very little in the vein of such Bibles. Instead, the NLT OR ESV Study Bibles offer the most for any I’ve ever seen and they are both widely evangelical (instead of individualistic like Scoffield, Ryrie or Dake).
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 4:38 PM]
Ok thanks. I do have a NLT study bible. I want to pick a version and read it cover to cover and the reson I went with the Ryrie is simply because there isn’t a lot footnotes. I’m a great believers in letting the bible speak for itself, however I’ve realistic that I can learn from a few footnotes provided they are not put on par with scripture, so a few lines at the bottom of each page I think it adequate. Another reason is because Ryrie doesn’t go down the replacement theology route that I reject, saying that I will scan over Ryrie pre-trib beief also. I know I have gone on about this for some time but when you are about to embark on reading the bible cover to cover it is really important to pick the correct one.
John Ruffle [07/12/2015 4:54 PM]
I dare you to try the NAB (New American Bible) Catholic Study Edition. It has some great notes and feel free to skip over anything you’re not so keen on. It’s the only study bible I use, and even that sparingly. My main-stay is the NKJV.
John Ruffle [07/12/2015 4:56 PM]
A sample page from the NAB. My edition, you need a powerful lens to read, but its great for travelling!
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 6:17 PM]
Looks good. I do like the NASB translation, what’s the NAB?
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 6:19 PM]
Do you have a IBSN number for it?
Barry G. Carpenter [07/12/2015 8:26 PM]
Progressive dispensationalism -not for me thanks. I would not recommend.
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 8:51 PM]
Barry G. Carpenter What ‘system’ of theology do you follow? I’m curious, thanks
Jon Sellers [07/12/2015 9:12 PM]
NAB is New American Bible. It is a Catholic translation. Every translation has its own translation committee. Each committee will reflect to some degree the theological persuasions of its members. Every translation imports a degree of theology in the choice of words used to translate the Greek and Hebrew. Plus to make it readable in English the word order and use of fill in words are necessary to make it read more smoothly.
Eugene Nida has done a lot of work on translation theory. Here is a helpful summary of the issues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_and_formal_equivalence
John Ruffle [07/12/2015 11:07 PM]
Barry G. Carpenter [07/12/2015 11:08 PM]
Roger Wilkinson- after years of study I have moved from Arminian/Cessationist/Dispy to Covenental/Non-Cessationist/A-mil- and my basis for doing so is systematic theology & herneneutics- that is TRYING to hold all Scripture and Biblical doctrine in balance and equally true. I am still a pilgrim and a student.
John Ruffle [07/12/2015 11:13 PM]
What really annoys me is that the NASB got revised a few years back. Jon Sellers- can you cast light on why so many revisions of revisions? The Living Bible is a transliteration not a translation and so, together with The Way, should not be regarded as bibles at all. The Way is awful because a lot of people seem to use it to preach from! I’ve also got a New World (not the latest edution) and its not half as bad as people make out so long as you filter out the doctrinal bias. I refers to it very rarely now – it’s GREAT for witnessing to JWs!
Jon Sellers [07/12/2015 11:16 PM]
Most revisions come from new insights on language usage in the original languages or from textual improvements in the Greek or Hebrew texts. They also will incorporate updated and modernized English phrasing to make it more readable. Plus, marketing and consumer culture requires periodic “improvements” in order to stimulate new sales. Everyone needs to make money after all. 😉
Roger Wilkinson [07/12/2015 11:21 PM]
I am Arminian, pre-millenium (not dispensational), post tribulation regarding the rapture…….I have been studying for years to come to that conclusion, I only know a few people that are not pre-trib and only two other people who agree with all three assessments, one being my wife. God bless you
John Ruffle [07/12/2015 11:58 PM]
Let’s ask God what HE is, hehe!
John Ruffle [07/13/2015 12:05 AM]
Seriously, a good comment from Jon Sellers. Here’s the bar code for the NAB Catholic Study Edition
Charles Page [07/24/2015 9:24 AM]
doesn’t it represent the view of easy believism?
John Earp [07/28/2015 12:37 PM]
Yes. I still have an old copy of this in my library. It was given to me by my Dad when I graduated high school. The Ryrie Study Bible notes give a dispensationalist interpretation of the Scriptures.
Charles Page [08/05/2015 11:22 AM]
it represents the view of easy believism as opposed to Lordship salvation.
Steve Frazier [08/09/2015 5:26 PM]
Used one for years and I’ve always liked it.