Roger David [09/20/2015 8:28 AM]
I did not know that you went to my home church. Though it explains much.
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 8:30 AM]
What is your home church?
Roger David [09/20/2015 8:33 AM]
Well it was Toronto airport Vineyard. Later named tacf. I moved to Texas now though so it’s no longer my home church.
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 8:34 AM]
I am not a member up there but been dozens of times…. love John and Carol. I was a member of Metro Christian Fellowship for the longest time (Mike Bickle) but my mother attending Sheffield Assembly.
Roger David [09/20/2015 8:37 AM]
It would seem your charismatic background causes much conflict in this Pentecostal group.
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 8:39 AM]
My background is classic Pentecostal. I hold to the 16 Fundamental truths of the AG. I just welcome the renewal as another layer 🙂
Terry Wiles [09/20/2015 9:24 AM]
Those groups seem to produce Lone Ranger independents. I’ve wondered if it’s because of the emphasis on personal revelation.
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 9:25 AM]
produced them or gathered them and try and heal them up?
Terry Wiles [09/20/2015 9:27 AM]
Not sure. The healing part seems to be very slow.
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 9:28 AM]
David took some of the most screwed up people and changed the world 🙂
Terry Wiles [09/20/2015 9:47 AM]
True. They weren’t lone Rangers. They were committed followers of David.
John Kissinger [09/20/2015 9:50 AM]
name a few to name a few
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 9:51 AM]
and all these lone rangers are committed followers of Jesus.
Terry Wiles [09/20/2015 10:01 AM]
Then they should
Be committed to His Body.
John Kissinger [09/20/2015 10:25 AM]
There are no Lone Rangers in the church. This is a myth. As seen on the picture, every Lone Ranger has at least a Tonto…
Terry Wiles [09/20/2015 11:31 AM]
Don’t believe everything you see in the movies. Lol
Terry Wiles [09/20/2015 11:33 AM]
1k Indians to the north. 1k to the south, east, and west. Lone Ranger says, Tonto, looks like we’ve got trouble”. Tonto replies, what do you me we white man.
Peter A Vandever [09/20/2015 10:49 PM]
Terry, the problem is you are still looking to them with blame saying “What is wrong with you?” We should be asking “What is wrong with us?” Remember, judgement begins at the house of God.
Terry Wiles [09/21/2015 7:52 AM]
You know nothing about me yet you judge me?
Peter A Vandever [09/21/2015 7:53 AM]
I am taking from what you have said. The American church is not the solution but rather the problem…or part of it.
Terry Wiles [09/21/2015 9:21 AM]
The Body is supreme. Those who separate themselves from the body are Lone Rangers. The problem is those who think they are over the Body empowered with special grace to rule over It.
Peter A Vandever [09/21/2015 9:35 AM]
The Body? Oh, the Bride of Christ 🙂 You can blame them for not wanting to be raped. I will not. I understand how toxic the church in America has become.
Terry Wiles [09/21/2015 10:07 AM]
Peter A Vandever [09/21/2015 10:08 AM]
I wasn’t having sarcasm. I will not tell someone to go to church only be raped by the toxic spirits in the leadership.
Terry Wiles [09/21/2015 10:10 AM]
Another sarcastic comment about local bodies of Christ that you know nothing about.
John Kissinger [09/21/2015 11:32 AM]
Terry, the Bible says nothing about local expressions, but it does say something about making disciples (if you mean the same thing). As a missionary let’s hope Peter A is doing exactly that #onAmission
Phil Hoover [03/15/2016 4:06 PM]
One of the most serious dangers in the contemporary culture is the “lone ranger” mentality…and especially in the church. People should never feel alone or by themselves…but so many do.