Is speaking in tongues necessary for salvation?

Posted by Vlad Stepanov in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

Do you think speaking in tongues is necessary for salvation?

Chris Clark [01/21/2016 6:48 PM]
Absolutely not.

Bernhard Röckle [01/21/2016 6:55 PM]
No – only Jesus is necessary!

Lloyd A Sanders Jr. [01/21/2016 7:02 PM]
No, but for spiritual growth.

Jim Kingsnorth [01/21/2016 7:03 PM]
No way

Carl Murphy [01/21/2016 7:04 PM]
Nope, it is the least of all spiritual gifts. I also do not think them as the one definitive act of being filled with the Spirit

David Lewayne Porter [01/21/2016 7:20 PM]
Salvation – no, Holy Spirit / Ghost baptism to filling – yes

Paul DeHaan [01/21/2016 7:27 PM]
No way.

Ricky Grimsley [01/21/2016 7:37 PM]
Absolutly not

Mary Dinnan [01/21/2016 7:39 PM]
NO!

John Kissinger [01/21/2016 7:41 PM]
I am not too sure if you need the Holy Ghost to go to heaven, but for myself I wouldnt go to the store without the Holy Ghost…

Ricky Grimsley [01/21/2016 7:44 PM]
You have to have the holy ghost to go to heaven just not to be baptized in the holy ghost.

Henry Volk [01/21/2016 7:45 PM]
Vlad, do you go to the Slavic Pentecostal Church in Ashville?

Charles Page [01/21/2016 7:56 PM]
If you go to heaven you will have been born by the Spirit. You can’t go to heaven without the Spirit. However you don’t have to be baptized with the Holy Spirit.

Andy Thompson [01/21/2016 7:57 PM]
You’ve got to be kidding!! Of course not. I know Baptists that forbid it but they are good Christians. The word of GOD tells us in the gospels the two commandments which are the most important to be saved.

Steve Wright [01/21/2016 8:10 PM]
No

Andrew C Lomp [01/21/2016 8:24 PM]
NO.

Timothy D McCune [01/21/2016 8:32 PM]
In some UPCI churches they teach that you must speak in tongues as evidence of salvation, either before baptism or right after.

Tom Steele [01/21/2016 8:33 PM]
Like anything, tongues cannot be a means by which you earn or maintain salvation. However, like many other things we are instructed to do (therefore brethren, covet to prophecy and forbid not to speak in tongues), it can become a salvation issue. In particular, with gifts of the Spirit, you have the issue of people who attribute it to being the work of the devil. That is the exact context Jesus was dealing with when He rebuked the religious leaders for accusing Him of casting out devils though the power of the devil, and introduced the teaching on the “blasphemy of the Holy Ghost,” the one sin He said would not be forgiven. So then, speaking in tongues is certainly a salvation issue to those who teach that speaking in tongues is of the devil. Besides all that, tongues (and interpretation by default) is the only spiritual gift exclusive to the New Testament. I would say that makes it quite possibly the most important of all the gifts and the one that should be desired above all by all true Believers.

Ricky Grimsley [01/21/2016 8:35 PM]
I have a hard time believing cessationists are going to heaven.

Randy Buchanan [01/21/2016 8:36 PM]
No

James Armstrong [01/21/2016 8:40 PM]
Yes, born of spirit and the water. Without biblical evidence of tongues you do not have the Holy Ghost inside you.

Ricky Grimsley [01/21/2016 8:41 PM]
Thats ridiculous.

Curtis Fenison [01/21/2016 8:45 PM]
Opinions are fine. But they have absolutely no value for validating the truth. None of the answers give scriptural reference let alone irrefutable scriptural evidence for or against; “speaking in tongues is necessary for salvation”. Anybody want to answer the question by fact rather than opinion.

Stan Wayne [01/21/2016 8:48 PM]
No

Mark Schaeufele [01/21/2016 8:51 PM]
No, tongues as initial evidence of baptism of the Holy Spirit is an empowerment issue, not a salvific one.

CrossTheology [01/24/2016 7:23 AM]
Me too I think – The Holy Ghost you get at conversion so you need Him but not the speaking in tongues. 🙂 That’s not as important as conversion. 🙂

89 Comments

  • Reply June 4, 2017

    Dan Irving

    After a particularly brutal chat group discussion last night (somewhere else,) it appears clear to me this is an issue we should apply ourselves to. I’m realizing a tremendous amount of acrimony exists on this issue, and we need to know where to stand our ground, and where to give allowance to differing opinion. ? Hard issue! But where else to discuss the issue than right here.

    • Reply June 4, 2017

      Jim Daniel

      This is generally promoted by the same groups that deny the Trinity and teach the heresy of modalism. There is no scriptural basis for teaching it. In fact, Paul refutes it when he asks of believers if all speak in tongues with the presumed answer to be “No!”

    • Reply July 12, 2019

      Timothy Cantrell

      John 3 : 7-8. Mark 16:17. Acts 10 :45-46. The new testament clearly teachers the initial evidence of the baptism of the HOLY GHOST is tongue’s. The gifts of the SPIRIT in 1st Corinthians Explains how the gift of tongues and other gifts are to be used in the church and in prayer which is the the initial evidence. Two totally different things. However the ultimate evidence of the Holy Ghost is the fruit of the Spirit. Which brings us back to 1st Corinthians 13 . Study to show thyself approved. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • Reply June 4, 2017

    Street Preacherz

    Agreed.
    “My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.”
    – 1 John 3:18

  • Reply June 4, 2017

    Varnel Watson

    Jim Daniel In my experience I am ware of even more deeply Trinitarian groups who insist on the so called fullness in the Spirit i.e. having Father, Son and Spirit in order to go to heaven as they interpret the witnesses of 1 John 5:7 Joakim Fiore 15-16AD was the first to split the history in 3 dispensations that of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit

  • Reply March 5, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    arly Pentecostals believed in the FULLNESS of the Spirit
    1. Saved
    2. sanctified
    3. filled with the Holy Ghost tongue and fire speaking
    4. water baptized full immersion
    5. rapture ready

    And now? ONLY 6% in church still speak in tongues
    nay I say untothee
    Does speaking in tongues get you saved? Who knows but it sure helps you get saved #BACKtotheBASICS

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Randal W Deese

      If we really got back to basics, we will get back to orthodoxy… LOL. The Orthodox have always taught that one receive the gift of the Holy Spirit after faith and baptism.

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Not really Orthodoxy did not come until the Great Schism in 1054 By that time it has already lost its ortho praxy

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Randal W Deese

      Troy Day You are absolutely incorrect. Orthodoxy has always been… The Roman Catholics broke off from orthodoxy

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      So we know that’s not true. The church was called Catholic Universal in the first councils The Constantinople aka Byzantine wing did not even exist until 1054. Neither the Coptic church nor the first Christian nation Armenia were called Orthodox until then. I am well aware of the Orthodox demand on the whole idea of Orthodoxy being the first and the greatest did not come until the Russian Empire made Christianity its political doctrine – much alike the Holy Roman Empire.

      Here’s a very simple test
      Who inherited the patriarch of Jerusalem after Jerusalem was destroyed
      Answer: It was inherited by the patriarch of Rome, not of Constantinople Remember Quo Vadis Domine 🙂
      I rest my case

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Randal W Deese

      Troy Day You obviously are not very good at historical facts… The unified church was unified Until 1054… All the patriarchs but one, the one in Rome, held their ground of the unified church doctrine… The Roman patriarch decided that he wanted to be the head of the entire church world… The rest of the patriarchs kept to the truth that was taught from the beginning

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Randal W Deese

      The only one who changed any of the Doctrines that were held under the unified church was Rome

    • Reply March 5, 2018

      Randal W Deese

      Troy Day By the way, it was Ignatius, a disciple of the apostles, who coined the word catholic

    • Reply March 6, 2018

      Vickie Embry

      Don’t know where you go to church but in ky all Pentecost church still does

  • Reply March 5, 2018

    Melvin Shomo

    “No!”
    You don’t have to have tongues for salvation
    but not everyone receives the Holy Spirit just because they believed either.
    For one it is not scriptural where they do.
    Many had believed on Philip’s salvation message, but none had received the Holy Spirit of Promise yet. So the Apostles had gotten together and had sent in Peter and John to pray that they might receive the Holy Ghost Acts 8:15-16

    You can have the Holy Spirit without tongues.
    But tongues gives the believer the advantage over the spirit realm.

    Apostle Paul had said, “I pray in tongues more than you all.
    Could this be where a lot of the revelations that Paul had received had come from praying in tongues.
    The Apostle did speak of the tongues of Angels 1 Corinthians 13:1

  • Reply March 5, 2018

    John Caudill

    Unrelated, no specific gifts are required.

  • Reply March 5, 2018

    Jevan Little

    Troy Day when you say 6% do you mean the whole church or just the Pentecostals?

  • Reply March 5, 2018

    Caleb E. Sanchez

    “Do all [members of Christ’s body] speak in tongues? [No!]”
    -1 Cor. 12:30

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Jevan Little Daniel Rushing posted a snap shot of the research

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    acts 10 and acts 19 show good examples, the upper room moment…..the topic makes me wonder if all know the difference between speaking in tongies in prayer, diver tongues ( other language others can understand), gift of tongues ( message from God to edify the church where and interpreter is needed)? then understanding which of these Paul is speaking about in corinthians?

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    There Robbie Asbury explain the difference to all 🙂

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    kinda sorta just did…points up 🙂

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    but anyways…people can often be praying and begin to speak in tongues which is one type…one that some try and condemn people for doing in church , yet I myself have never seen someone ever bother a service by doing so….

    then we got the whole upper room experience where they spoke in divers tongues…languages others could understand …
    then the gift of tongues where an interp ia needed to receive and know the message the Lord wants the church to know

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    hope this helps

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    Pauls admonishes in one part of word about gifts ….yet in another speaks of forbidding not to speak in tongues and how he does more then others

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    some will try and chastise those simply praying and speaking in tongues i feel in error, by quoting Pauls discussion about the gifts part

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Vlad Stepanov asked this awhile back A tremendous amount of acrimony exists on this issue, and we need to know where to stand our ground, and where to give allowance to differing opinion

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    but on original topic does it save or have to do with saving?
    I believe the bible lets us clearly know its one form of evidence that one has the Holy Ghost….yet it can equally be said that a persons fruit prove the same….
    Because of early examples in acts of tongues being a way to know if someone received many attribute this to salvation…
    To me we are saved by the grace , and tongues is one verifiable and scriptural way to know or an evidence of salvation. Not actual salvation just one form or way to know someone was saved.

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Robbie Asbury

    my biggest worry on the topic is so many that want to hinder or stop others from talking in tongues at all. Or for that matter any form of cessationist idea on any gift no longer being applicable today.

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    true that

  • I speak in a unknown tongue i speak it not to man but god for no man understands it so it is a prayer language

    I do not speak tongues of angels that is spoken to man that every1 hears in there own laguage

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Ray E Horton

    Of course not! The Baptism in the Holy Spirit, with one of the evidences being speaking in tongues, which manifests as our prayer language, is a second experience that empowers us.

  • Reply March 6, 2018

    Gene Brown

    One comment from a peon. Acts 2v38 peter says repent, believe, b baptized, and ur shall receive the holy ghost. That’s a saved person. Baptism in the holly ghost is a separate action. Amen

  • Reply March 9, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Can you go to heaven without the Holy Ghost?
    I wouldnt go to the store without the Holy Ghost

    • Reply March 9, 2018

      Ray E Horton

      Of course not! A person receives the Holy Ghost when they are Born Again. Speaking in tongues, however, is a sign of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, a second work not necessary for salvation but very important for this life.

    • No

    • Reply March 9, 2018

      Randal W Deese

      It depend upon what you mean? I believe Scripture teaches that a relationship WITH the Holy Spirit is different than the INDWELLING of the Holy Spirit.

  • Reply March 12, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Kenneth L. Harrell You recent comment on Holy Ghost tongues is wrong on so many levels that I dont know where to start

  • Wow someone say the the gift of God aka holy ghost is wrong i truely am appualed

  • Reply March 12, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Kenneth L. Harrell The notion that Luke does not expect tongues is plain wrong. Those who are baptized in the Holy Spirit in Acts do speak We have no knowledge if Luke was present in Acts 2. It sure seems like when he completed his research and the 2 narratives, he expected when people get the Holy Ghost to speak in tongues. So says the presuppositional method Luke used in constructing his stories

  • But not all christians that have the holy ghost have the gift of tongues Troy Day
    Dont worry about ppl they do not like what they dont understand

  • Reply March 12, 2018

    Vlad Stepanov

    This subject is still alive?

  • Reply March 12, 2018

    Scott Phillips

    Yes, it is.

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Caleb E. Sanchez

      “Do all [members of Christ’s body] speak in tongues? [No!]”
      -1 Cor. 12:30

  • Reply March 12, 2018

    Scott Phillips

  • Reply March 13, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Scott Phillips How do you teach speaking in tongues? http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/class-on-speaking-in-tongues/

  • Reply March 13, 2018

    Gene Brown

    Tongues in acts 2 languages, I st cor 12 between man, and God. Help?

  • Reply March 13, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Gene initial evidence vs gift of tongues

  • Reply March 13, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Ray E Horton Prayer language is usually the charismatics thing but oh well. Can you turn a Prayer language on and off as you wish?

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Ray E Horton

      Of course! Holy Spirit doesn’t control. We choose, and He gives the utterance. Yes, I have a charismatic background, but isn’t a prayer language a Pentecostal thing as well?

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      What verse from the Bible would you offer where tongues could be turned on or off? Dont it say as the Spirit gives utterance?

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Ray E Horton

      Acts 2:4 They began to speak – their action, as the Spirit gave utterance – Holy Spirit providing the word.

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      They only spoke AS the Spirit gave them utterance. Gave them is past simple establishing the chronology – utterance was given first then they spoke. They were not able to speak before the utterance was given

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Ray E Horton

      The utterance is given as/when they open their mouths to speak. The Holy Spirit gives people the utterance, but they must exercise their faith to speak. Failure to understand this one truth has caused many people to ask the Lord for the gift of tongues and then wait for the Lord to supernaturally move their mouths. If nothing happens, they say that the Lord must not want them to speak in tongues or else it would have happened.

      That is no more true than to say that every person the Lord has called to preach is preaching or every person He has given a prophecy to has prophesied. We have to step out in faith.

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      The other way around
      The text says they only spoke AS the Spirit gave them utterance They did not speak from themselves is the idea

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Ray E Horton

      That’s right, the utterance wasn’t from themselves, yet would only come when they opened their mouths to speak. By the way, this is also confirmed by the experience of millions. It’s not theological theory to me when I know any time I want I can prayer in my tongues prayer language and often notice the impact, refreshing, more sensitivity to that inner witness, opening the door to personal communion and prophecy, etc.

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      The text is clear
      The utterance came first
      They could not speak without the utterance
      Meaning they could not turn if on and off

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Ray E Horton

      I doubt the text is clear on that, and I’d be interested to see other opinions of those who know the Greek.

    • Reply March 13, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Oh yeas the Greek text is extremely clear of the sequence. We can check it out in dept if youd like

  • Reply May 19, 2018

    Peter P. Macinta

  • Reply May 19, 2018

    Tommy Comer

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  • Reply May 19, 2018

    Randy H Johnson

    No, but being led by the Holy Spirit, walking in the Spirit and having a Spirit-controlled mind is.

    • Reply May 19, 2018

      Peter P. Macinta

      Aye! and Amen! “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.” — Romans 8:14

  • Reply May 20, 2018

    Md Sanders

    Be very careful not to blasphem the holy ghost

  • Reply July 10, 2019

    Philip Williams

    Of course not. Abraham did not speak in tongues.

    But it’s a wonderful gift to the body of Christ from which everyone can benefit. We don’t know how to pray, but the Spirit knows how to make intercession. It’s the one gift that lets us know that God hears us when we pray.

  • Reply July 10, 2019

    RichardAnna Boyce

    Rom 8:26b “For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession
    for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.”

    Pray (proseuchomai) is general prayer; intercession (enteuxis) means intimate prayer.
    Hebrews 4:15-16 :For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
    16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.”
    In our infirmities/weaknesses we can intercede boldly, intimately finding mercy, grace.

    The groanings (alatetois) means cannot be uttered being internal silent groaning.
    V22 are audible birth pain groans (synodin).
    Holy Spirit can pray better than the prayers of a righteous man in James 5:16b.

  • Reply July 10, 2019

    Isara Mo

    Is a bulging stomach necessary for pregnancy, NO.
    Is a bulging stomach evidence of pregnancy YES

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    tell us Mike Partyka

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    George Hartwell

    Anyone who thinks so has a strange version of the Bible.

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    Mike Partyka aint telling us either no more

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Nora Neel-Toney

    No. Speaking in Tongues is a gift, not a requirement

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Ray E Horton

    Of course not! But salvation is prerequisite to the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Mike Partyka

    No.

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Jesse James Sullivan

    Tongues is for prayer, it’s a sign for the unbelievers, tongues with translation may broaden the church’s understanding in the kingdom…

  • Reply August 20, 2019

    Christian Tarver

    The book says that we must be born again of water and of the spirit to enter into heaven (john3:5)
    Anywhere you see someone receive the Holy Ghost, there’s always tongues

  • Reply August 21, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    if you aint got it you aint got it

  • Reply August 22, 2019

    Daniel J Hesse

    I need the power of the Spirit every day. I have enough issues with the tongue I already have in my mouth.

  • Reply August 22, 2019

    Isara Mo

    If you go to a new country where everybody speaks THEIR LANGUAGE and you become a citizen of that country wouldnt it be natural to learn to speak the language of your NEW NATIVE country..
    I would be suprised that year in year out you will still be speaking your former language….
    Tongues is not necessary for your salvation but it is one of the PROOFS that you are saved…
    I can speak to Troy Day in English but when I turn to my God, I speak in tongues..
    Whoever speaks in a tongue doesnt speak to men but to God…

  • Reply August 22, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    YES

  • Reply August 22, 2019

    Rick Ferguson

    Tongues is not a requirement for salvation, it is the initial evidence of the infilling of the Holy Ghost, which is necessary for salvation. If you have not spoken in tongues it is because you have not yet been filled with the Holy Ghost.

    • Reply August 22, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      some early Pentecostals believe it was

  • Reply August 23, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    So what do we see from early pentecostalism? What can we glean from this? This egalitarian nature of the Azusa Street Mission allowed, in one part, many from different denominations to come into the doors and receive the baptism. On the other hand, you had acquiescence to political or social mores. When early pentecostals left the mission, they found themselves in positions like Lake, in compliance with the government. They often found themselves sometimes — like Charles H. Mason, who came to the mission as well — in direct defiance of the government because of their pacifistic beliefs. Mason was followed by the early FBI because of believing in pacifism.

    What we can see from the core of the movement is a global focus. The things that concerned early pentecostals, whether it was economics, social or political concerns or this evangelistic thrust of xenoglossolalia, brought Azusa Street Mission people into contact with the rest of the world. This pentecostal experience that was not tendered into the denominational structure of strict organizational lines were able to mutate, proliferate and grow from the imaginations of those who thought of themselves as being this missing link to the upper room at Pentecost.

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