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Is it possible to keep the law without being under the law?
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Varnel Watson
possible about as much as a Pelagiyan can keep works for salvatin Joe Absher
Wayne Scott
Luke 1
5In the days of Herod, king of Judea, there was a priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah; and he had a wife from the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. 6They were both righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and requirements of the Lord.”
When “the law” is used in a negative sense as in what does not save us, it is in general terms, Leviticus and circumcision, etc. It is not the law of Christ which Paul says frees people from the other.
Wayne Scott
I’ve studied Pelagius and like him because he argued against Augustine in defense of Titus 2:11-14 saving grace of God. Augustine, the father of Calvinist/Lutheranism, lowered this to nonsaving grace and invented irresistible grace which is selectively given to some practicing sinners and withheld from others. If you number is drawn in the lottery, you receive it and cannot miss heaven no matter what you do.
Pelagius, as did all the preNicene fathers, had not problem with “Whoseover is born of God doth not commit sin” (I John 3:9).
Varnel Watson
does Pelagianism keep the law too? Tom Steele
Joe Absher
“For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness,”
– Romans 10:3
A bunch of frauds supposing to add to the righteousness of Christ.
I saw limb today. A beautiful green bushy limb. A bundle of joy I thought. Laying there on the sidewalk. It looked so alive but it was dead. So is man seeking his own righteous apart from Christ his blood and his grace. His willingness to receive and redeem. Jesus is the end of your striving and corruption. I hope and pray you find your rest him before its to late
Varnel Watson
Pelagianism does something in between I think
John Cox
I don’t care, any more than I care about arguments about how many Angels can fit on the head of a pin…
Varnel Watson
you probably have a few strong reasons for that