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Pete Garcia | PentecostalTheology.com
Here is a verse that proves the Rapture happens BEFORE the 70th Week of Daniel (aka…the 7 year Tribulation).
For the record, Daniel 9:27 states it is ONE week of years. The week itself is broken up into two parts, but they are together separated only by the Abomination of Desolation (Jesus puts it in the middle in Matthew 24:15)
Anyway, here is the verse. IF the Church enters into ANY part of this last week, tell me, how we fit. Seeing as we still have nations around, we KNOW that the 7-year Tribulation has NOT yet begun.
“For I am with you,’ says the Lord, ‘to save you; Though I make a full end of all nations where I have scattered you, Yet I will not make a complete end of you. But I will correct you in justice, And will not let you go altogether unpunished.’”
Jeremiah 30:11
God is speaking to the nation of Israel (Jacob) here. The Church would not exist for another 600 years, so God is NOT speaking about the Church.
Furthermore, Daniel 9:24, confirms that the last week of years, is concerning the nation of Israel. Not spiritual Israel, not Hebrew Roots or SDA, but to the physical, ethnic, national Israel. He even confirms this by adding their capital Jerusalem.
The Church has no time, place, or purpose inside the 70th Week.
The blood bought, Christ redeemed church was paid for at Calvary, thus, we need no “punishment for correction.”
Prove me wrong.
William Davis
False posting
Adrian Marine
Prove you wrong? Jesus said that they would deliver you up to tribulation in Matthew 24:9…
Pete Garcia
https://youtu.be/NJCALHOh-Ng
Adrian Marine
Or even like the teaching of a rapture before the tribulation is a false teaching. And it’s a new one…
Kat Young
You cannot take 7 years off of a STRAIGHT TIMELINE PROPHECY!!! The Daniel 490 prophetic timeline ended at the stoning of Stephen, when the gospel went to the Gentiles.
Isaiah One-Eighteen
Behold! ⬇️
Stephen FY Teng
>>>The latest & final revelation of the risen Jesus is in the book of Revelation:
Rev 1-3 : Jesus stern message to the 7 Churches.
Rev 4 : Church rapture of the dead & alive in Christ, as represented by John. Most probably this yr of 2020. Get reday & prepare !
Rev 5-18 7-yr tribulation or Jacob’s troubles with 2 OT prophets & 144,000 Jewish evangelists to confirm Daniel 9 :27 & to the unbelieving Jews, period !!! Many left behind church fence-sitters/doubters & all unbelievers from all religions after witnessing the said rapture will cry out to Jesus to save them & many new believers will be martyred & immediately resurrected & are called tribulation saints.
Rev 19-21 Jesus returns to earth to Mt Olives together with His Church Bride for the millennium Kingdom together with the saved remnant Jews & tribulation saints. Satan, demons & all unbelievers will be cast into the hell of fire forever.
Rev 22 New earth & new heaven for all believers ( Gentiles & Jews ).
Sean Janusiewicz
Revelation chapter 14
After reading Revelation 22:18-19
Lorna Taitano
7 years are the peace agreement, not trib. trib is 3 1/2 years long. In the middle of the peace covenant anti-Christ will break the agreement and claim to be god, he will give people a mark in order to buy and sell, and kill many Christians and people. Many Christians will be alive and remain before God pours out His wrath on the world. He raises the dead in Christ and the living Christians go up to meet Him in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord!
Jone Varea
Jesus words in Matthew and Luke…he made reference to Dan 9:27. Which gives us a fair idea that Daniel’s 70 week prophecy ended during his time
East Sinim
Sure before 70 weeks the rapture as we have see in books of Daniel if 70 weeks completed all people are no more sin
William Davis
“Here is a verse that proves the Rapture happens BEFORE the 70th Week of Daniel (aka…the 7 year Tribulation).” False teaching
Nancy Rogers
And no man knows the day or the hour when Jesus comes so stop saying 2020, just be ready and keep our repentance up no man knows the day or the hour that scripture
Richard Suarez
Here are a list of verses where Christ says it isn’t going to happen. It is the wicked that are taken, NOT the righteous. Christ says it many times and everyone ignores what is in RED LETTERS. Here are a few: Matthew 13:49-50 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, (50) And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:40-42 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. (41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; (42) And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat_13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked
Mat_13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
Luke 17:26-27 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. (27) They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Luke 17:34-37 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. (35) Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (36) Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (37) And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. The word Body is carcass and the word eagles is vultures (look them up) Here it is again in Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
2Th_2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
1Co_15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Joh_6:39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Joh_6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh_6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh_12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
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Maria Michela Spadone
https://youtu.be/xeOA2OaGV8A?t=42
Michael Brown
This is ridiculous, are you saying the blood didn’t pay for the the sins of Israel so they need to be punished. How sick can your mind get? The more you people come up with ideas, its the more stupid they get. THERE IS NO JEW NOR GENTILE IN GOD’S PLAN OF SALVATION.
David Odom
Ridiculous. There is no scriptural support for a break between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel.
Karl Snyder
I am pre-trib Paul thought he would be in the rapture also other views deny the need for looking for the imminent return of the bridegroom JESUS .
Michael Allen Kokoski
Ultimate-truth.org
James Ray
we are engrafted into the resurrection of the jews we are not separated from it, in Daniel 12 the resurrection is promised to the jewish believers, through Christ their messiah we are engrafted into eternal life, this eternal life is given at the resurrection,so if we are engrafted in we suffer tribulation as well, it mentions we over come satan by the blood and testimony, we do not over come satan by secretly wisked away,god is no respecter of persons to allow isreal to see tribulation whom hes called to be his chosen people and we not suffer it as well, if he does such thing than he now has respect unto others,
Brenda King
But this is the thing though ……after God’ said the time of the gentile is over .His full attention will be on saving the Jewish nation and letting the scales now fall from their eyes so to speak
Keith Henley
So you’re saying we create this mess and then Jesus is just going to miraculously take us out of the conflict that we created we created this mess and now the Jesus is coming to save us amen hallelujah
Donald Staggs
2 Thes v3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come(rapture), except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition (antichrist)
Michael Brown
Pete Garcia, daily i struggle to understand the mentality of pre-tribulation rapture teachers. I cannot (even to save my life) see how that verse prove rapture. Whether your interpretation of Jews, punishment or whatever was correct, there is nothing there that suggest slightly that there will be a rapture. I won’t even argue for that. If you think this silly notion of punishment is what happen to the children of God, then you need to explain what happened to the eleven apostles and the early church and what is happening to christians in 130 of the 190 countries worldwide presently.
Are they being punished or are they fulfilling, Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name sake.
John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Acts 14:22
Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
Revelation 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Romans 5:3
And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Romans 12:12
Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;
Revelation 7:14
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
When you spread these lies and cause the innocent people of God to be unprepared for what Jesus describe as mankind’s worst nightmare because they look forward to a false hope that you all created with this senseless wish, you’re going to pay for it. All of you who teach this ridiculous hypothesis.
You have to do cumulative reading, take scripture out of context, twist some, reword others, then you redefine words and add new words and what scripture prove you wrong you either say its for the Jews or you go back to the mosaic datasheets to show how God is going to do it. This is evil, and you will especially not be unpunished.
Craig Theisen
Resurrection / Rapture :
Craig Theisen
Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation” of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And “then” shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and “then” shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall “send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet”, and “they shall gather together his elect” from “the four winds”, from “one end of heaven to the other”.
Sean Janusiewicz
Revelation 22:19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.
This one verse disproves your once saved always saved theory. : if God will take away his share in the tree of life you no longer look saved to me.
Also revelation 14:9 A third angel followed the first two, declaring in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and takes the mark on his forehead or his hand,
10 that person will also drink of the wine of God’s anger that has been mixed undiluted in the cup of his wrath, and he will be tortured with fire and sulfur in front of the holy angels and in front of the Lamb.
11 And the smoke from their torture will go up forever and ever, and those who worship the beast and his image will have no rest day or night, along with anyone who receives the mark of his name.”
12 This requires the steadfast endurance of the saints – those who obey God’s commandments and hold to their faith in Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write this: ‘Blessed are the dead, those who die in the Lord from this moment on!'” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so they can rest from their hard work, because their deeds will follow them.”
This shows we will be here for the mark of the beast.
Stephanie Stutler
Just a promise that Israel will be saved. Israel is the church. (those who are in Christ as spiritual jews of Israel – also just having Jewish heritage is not an immediate ticket to heaven.) Also. Jeremiah was a prophet, who preached to the church for years about how they would be carried away to (literal) Babylon. Jeremiah warned them to give up their fake gods and turn back to God. They refused, and so they were sieged. They were all captured and carried off, this is where Daniel picks up.. and tells of what is planned for the world with the dreams of statues and beasts. You see this pretty much from Chapter 2 onward..The Lord pleads through Jeremiah for His people to turn back to Him. But. They refuse, so He lets them have faith in their idols, and asks them if their idols will protect them, and lets Babylon carry them off. Chapter 23 is foretelling of Jesus. 24 is a promise that those who hear His call, in the future, will be brought back to Him. Chapter 25- (31-33) are end days accounts… specifically because its regarding Judgement day. Simply. You cannot take one passage of scripture, and stop there. Read all of the chapter, read the entire book.. know what was happening the history at that time.
Allan Kirui Langat
Jesus save me..
Blood of Jesus cleanse me,
Yes Lord amen
Arthur Smith
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Richard Suarez
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Phil Mayo
The post is right. Daniel was told it was about “his people and holy city”. The reference to Jerusalem proves his people aren’t to be understood as spiritual Israel. This is about physical Jerusalem and physical Israel.
The Church has no part!
Brenda King
Google this up…..What three groups people left behind after the rapture Perry stone
Craig Theisen
But he that shall “endure unto the end”, the same shall be saved.
Jimmy Truluck
How much time lapse is there between the rapture and the start of the 70th week ?