Does anyone go to their local christian book store and look around and see if their books are crazy? I came across this book today at the local Mardel store? Its classified as teen romance. I have not read it yet but it appears to be a story about guardian angels falling in love with their charges? Sounds satanic so far.
Mike Stidham [03/06/2016 12:22 AM]
But still a better love story than Twilight!
Mike Stidham [03/06/2016 12:22 AM]
That does sound mighty crazy, not to mention unbiblical. Isn’t that what kicked off the Flood?
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 12:24 AM]
It is in my opinion.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 9:12 AM]
I’m sure it’s a fiction book right?
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 9:14 AM]
Yes it fiction. But it looks likes occult material posing as christian fiction.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 9:22 AM]
Why are we always looking for things to be against? The idea of angels is in the bible and I’m sure that it’s probably a lot less graphic than non Christian fiction books. Based on comments above and I could be wrong here but it appears you believe the idea that Angels had children with mortal women which is more or less the premise described in the book so that would make it scriptural right? My point is there are battles that need to be fought and then there’s stuff like this.
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 9:46 AM]
Lol we look for stuff to be against because we are commanded to. 1 Peter 5:8 KJVS
 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1 Timothy 4:1 KJVS
 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 9:49 AM]
Satanic ritual abuse is real. This is the kind of thing that could get young people to look for it and get involved with satanism thinking its godly angels.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 10:01 AM]
Being vigilant and aware of the enemies activity is not the same as going on witch hunts, looking for things to be against, and being hyper critical of disputable matters. I agree satanic ritual abuse is a real thing. But having worked with young people extensively over the years I can say I’ve never known a fiction book to lead a teen to occultism or witchcraft generally when that happens it’s because of the influence of friends or disillusionment with the church.
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 10:08 AM]
Well i guess you can fight your battles and ill fight mine.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 10:08 AM]
The best and really the only sure way of securing the young people in our church is to ground them firmly in the scripture (the best way to know how to spot a lie is to be expert in the truth) and to make sure they have a real authentic faith in Christ. If the Holy Spirit in dwells them then He will keep them secure and safe in the most evil of times.
Charles Page [03/06/2016 6:40 PM]
“If the Holy Spirit in dwells them then He will keep them secure and safe in the most evil of times.” That is Calvinism -believer’s perseverance in faith
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 6:53 PM]
It is Calvinism and more importantly it is scripture.
Charles Page [03/06/2016 6:54 PM]
seems like MacArthur and not Biblical at all.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 7:04 PM]
Gonna beg to differ with you on the not biblical part. Not surprised in this forum to be disagreed with on that point. Not many who are both Pentecostal and Calvinistic in their theology.
PS: not a huge fan of McArthur but his soteriology is sound even if he is a bit of a jerk.
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 7:07 PM]
Gotta love the calvinists. Must be nice going through life with God meticulously controlling everything while you are on autopilot. Kinda stinks if you predestined for hell. Of course no calvinists believes they are until they wake up in hell and God says “sorry its all for glory”.
Charles Page [03/06/2016 7:07 PM]
good theology is Pentecostal and Biblical. I don’t believe one can be both Calvinist and Pentecostal. You would have to be one or the other.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 7:19 PM]
Sorry your wrong on that. I firmly believe in the gifts of the spirit and that they should operate in the body of Christ. Of course there is order to that operation but they should operate. And I’m committed to the idea that we are saved by grace apart from any work of our own. This is the biblical, historical, and orthodox doctrine of the Christian church. I was raised in the Pentecostal church and ordained with the Pentecostal church. Embraced Calvinism in my 20’s as I was studying scripture. It was a slow process that I resisted for a long time. So it is possible. And though there aren’t many I’m not alone I’m part of a reformed charismatic group on Facebook as well.
Charles Page [03/06/2016 7:21 PM]
it seems we agree!!! I hold to TULIP
Charles Page [03/06/2016 7:23 PM]
indeed we are saved by grace apart from any work of our own.
Charles Page [03/06/2016 7:24 PM]
the elect are preserved by God in grace.
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 7:32 PM]
A reformed charismatic group???? Wow now i have heard it all. Man i tell you though. If God appeared to me and said “Ricky. I will give you the desire of your heart.” I would ask God to slap James White in the spirit and watch him dance around Arizona while speaking in tongues.
Jimmy Pearson [03/06/2016 7:43 PM]
There is even a reformed charismatic denomination I wish they had churches near me but no such luck. I like James white and many other Calvinist theologians many whom are cessationists. I figure were all probably wrong to some degree on something.
Ricky Grimsley [03/06/2016 7:48 PM]
I love listening to james white destroy people in debates. Especially arminians.