Demons are identified according to their nature. A demon of hate is called “hate”. Each demon is a specialist. A hate demon does not foster lust - he only promotes hatred. When demons are commanded to name themselves, they will usually name themselves in identity with their nature, e.g. rebellion, cursing, indifference, etc. Occasionally a demon will give a personal name such as “Jim” or “Shirley”. At times they will give foreign names. This is a deceptive measure to keep the deliverance minister from knowing their true nature. The minister should command the demons to reveal their nature, saying, “What is your nature, demon?” Indwelling demons are seldom found singly; they are together in groups. Such groupings may be referred to as colonies, clans or families. When one demon is detected or discerned, one should immediately be alerted to look for its companions. A group of demons is banded together for the purpose of controlling a particular area of a person’s life. Therefore, there is a very logical pattern of spirits to be found in any particular group. Certain types of spirits are found over and over in the same combinations; however, one must not assume that the combination will always be the same. THE POSSIBILITIES FOR GROUPINGS ARE UNLIMITED. Within each group there will be a “strong man' or ruling spirit. Often during ministry a ruling spirit will be specifically identified. It is not always necessary that he be identified as a ruling spirit in order to effect the deliverance. Such identification will usually be given reasons. First, the Holy Spirit may be directing an order of procedure. The deliverance minister will want to be alert to whatever battle plan the Lord may give. There are situations where the Lord will direct that the ruling spirit be dealt with first and then his companions. At other times the leading of the Lord will be to drive out the lesser spirits first and the ruling spirit last. There seems to be no real merit in questioning why the Lord leads one way and then another. A good soldier is trained to follow orders without questioning his commander. At times he may be given great latitude in choosing his own route of attack, and at other times his orders are quite specific. The same is true in the battles of spiritual warfare. A second reason why the ruling spirit may be identified is that it is for the benefit of the person receiving deliverance. It can be quite helpful to know which spirit to be on special guard against in the future. Some spirits are especially tied in with habit patterns that must be changed and areas of the carnal man that must be crucified. Subsequent to deliverance the person will have to fight some battles on his own to maintain his deliverance. It is very helpful to know exactly what one is fighting, and what is flesh and what is demon spirit. From experience gained through hundreds of deliverance sessions and in dealing with demon groupings, I am persuaded that the ruling spirit is the first spirit to invade a certain area. Because he is the first to gain entrance he can establish himself as the ruler. He then becomes the key to opening the way for other spirits to enter. When demons are being driven out it is not uncommon to give a command to the ruling spirit, “Come out and bring all of your companions with you!” or “Come out and bring all your roots!” If any part of a group is not expelled, the way is left for the group to be let back in. For this reason the deliverance should be as thorough as possible. More than one spirit of a certain type may be found within a given group. For example, the bitterness colony may contain several demons of resentment. Also, a certain type of demon may be present in more than one group. For example, a demon of anger may be found in the bitterness clan and another anger demon in the perfection clan. In one deliverance several groups of spirits were cast out. In each group there was a spirit of depression. It is only by the operation of the supernatural gift of discernment that one can know that all such combinations of spirits have been dealt with. The following list of demon groups represents patterns experienced through actual deliverance sessions. THESE GROUPINGS ARE ONLY SUGGESTIVE OF WHAT MAY BE ENCOUNTERED. THE LISTING IS BY NO MEANS INTENDED TO BE EXHAUSTIVE, NOR THE GROUPINGS TO BE INVARIABLE. An explanation is given of some of the groupings listed. This is to offer some insight into the problems caused by particular groups of spirits. Most of the groups are rather self-explanatory. Your authors believe that the information given in this chapter will prove to be of great practical value to those who are moving into deliverance ministry. It will help anyone to better understand how demons set themselves up in groups. Years of study and experience are condensed into a few pages. Common Demon Groupings 1. BITTERNESS Resentment Hatred Unforgiveness Violence Temper Anger Retaliation Murder 2. REBELLION Self-will Stubbornness Disobedience Anti-submissiveness 3. STRIFE Contention Bickering Argument Quarreling Fighting 4. CONTROL Possessiveness Dominance Witchcraft 5. RETALIATION Destruction Spite Hatred Sadism Hurt Cruelty 6. ACCUSATION Judging Criticism Faultfinding 7. REJECTION Fear of Rejection Self-rejection 8. INSECURITY Inferiority Self-Pity Loneliness Timidity Shyness Inadequacy Ineptness 9. JEALOUSY Envy Suspicion Distrust Selfishness 10. WITHDRAWAL Pouting Daydreaming Fantasy Pretension Unreality 11. ESCAPE Indifference Stoicism Passivity Sleepiness Alcohol Drugs 12 PASSIVITY Funk Indifference Listlessness Lethargy 13. DEPRESSION Despair Despondency Discouragement Defeatism Dejection Hopelessness Suicide Death Insomnia Morbidity 14. HEAVINESS Gloom Burden Disgust 15. WORRY Anxiety Fear Dread Apprehension 16. NERVOUSNESS Tension Headaches Nervous Habits Restlessness Excitement Insomnia Roving 17. SENSITIVENESS Self-awareness Fear of man Fear of disapproval 18. PERSECUTION Unfairness Fear of judgment Fear of condemnation Fear of accusation Fear of reproof Sensitiveness 19. MENTAL ILLNESS Insanity Madness Mania Retardation Senility Schizophrenia 20. SCHIZOPHRENIA (See Chapter 21) 21. PARANOIA Jealousy Envy Suspicion Distrust Persecution Fears Confrontation 22. CONFUSION Frustration Incoherence Forgetfulness 23. DOUBT Unbelief Skepticism 24. INDECISION Procrastination Compromise Confusion Forgetfulness Indifference 254. SELF-DECEPTION Self-delusion Self-seduction Pride 26. MIND-BINDING Confusion Fear of man Fear of failure Occult spirits Spiritism spirits 27. MIND IDOLATRY Intellectualism Rationalization Pride Ego 28. FEARS (All Kinds) Phobias (All Kinds) Hysteria 29. FEAR OF AUTHORITY Intolerance Lying Deceit 30. PRIDE Ego Vanity Self-righteousness Haughtiness Importance Arrogance 31. AFFECTATION Theatrics Playacting Sophistication Pretension 32. COVETOUSNESS Stealing Kleptomania Material Lust Greed Discontent 33. PERFECTION Pride Vanity Ego Frustration Criticism Irritability Anger 34. COMPETITION Driving Argument Pride Ego 35. IMPATIENCE Agitation Frustration Intolerance Resentment Criticism 36. FALSE BURDEN False responsibility False compassion 37. GRIEF Sorrow Heartache Heartbreak Crying Sadness Cruel 38. FATIGUE Tiredness Weariness Laziness 39. INFIRMITY (any disease or sickness) 40. DEATH 41. INHERITANCE (Physical) (Emotional) (Mental) (Curses) 42. HYPERACTIVITY Restlessness Driving Pressure 43. CURSING Blasphemy Course jesting Gossip Criticism Backbiting Mockery Belittling Railing 44. ADDICTIVE & COMPULSIVE Nicotine Alcohol Drugs Medications Caffeine Gluttony 45. GLUTTONY Nervousness Compulsive Eating Resentment Frustration Idleness Self-pity Self-reward 46. SELF-ACCUSATION Self-hatred Self-condemnation 47. GUILT Condemnation Shame Unworthiness Embarrassment 48. SEXUAL IMPURITY Lust Fantasy Lust Masturbation Homosexuality Lesbianism Adultery Fornication Incest Harlotry Rape Exposure Frigidity 49. CULTS Jehovah’s Witness Christian Science Rosicrucianism Theosophy Urantia Subud Latihan Unity Mormonism Bahaism Unitarianism (Lodges, societies & social agencies using the Bible & God as a basis but omitting the blood atonement of Jesus Christ) 50. OCCULT Ouija Board Palmistry Handwriting analysis Automatic handwriting ESP Hypnotism Horoscope Astrology Levitation Fortune Telling Water Witching Tarot Cards Pendulum Witchcraft Black Magic White Magic Conjuration Incantation Charms Fetishes Etc. 51. RELIGIOUS Ritualism Formalism Doctrinal obsession Seduction Doctrinal error Fear of God Fear of Hell Fear of lost salvation Religiosity Etc. 52. SPIRITISM Seance Spirit guides Necromancy Etc. 53. FALSE RELIGIONS Buddhism Taoism Hinduism Islam Shintoism Confucianism Etc. Bitterness In Hebrews 12:15 a warning is sounded: “lest any root of bitterness springing up TROUBLE you, and thereby many be defiled.” The root of bitterness is responsible for much “trouble”. Bitterness harbored in the heart for any length of time will open the door for demon invasion. This is probably the most common opening for demon activity. In the majority of cases the bitterness is towards someone within the immediate family. Bitterness spirits keep alive hurtful incidents. Things that happened years ago are as fresh and alive in the memory as if they had only happened today. Thus, the person not only copes with current problems but is ever faced with the backlog of hurts. The spirit of unforgiveness keeps alive every detail of the hurts; reviews them continuously in the person’s mind. The most trivial hurt is neither forgiven nor forgotten. Whenever the attitude of bitterness is found, one may expect to find the demons of bitterness, resentment and hatred. In some instances the chain of spirits goes on to include other or all of the spirits in the grouping. Rebellion Rebellion is the spirit of antichrist - of disobedience and disrespect for authority. God has established authority in the home, church and civil government. God Himself is our supreme authority. To assert self- will above any level of authority in God’s divine order is to entertain demons of rebellion. To keep delivered in this area necessitates complete submission to all God constituted authority Control Control spirits are found in such cases as: (1) A parent showing unnatural control over a grown child, (2) husband or wife domineering over the other, (3) a pastor being a dictator rather than a shepherd, (4) a member of a prayer group controlling the group or others in the group. The methods of control may involve false visions, revelations; prophecies and the like. Such control amounts to witchcraft seeking to control another person (getting him to do what you want him to do) by knowingly or unknowingly employing the power of an evil spirit. The deliverance minister must also be prepared to minister to the victims of control spirits. Have the dominated person renounce all demonic control, declare his release from the bondage on the basis of liberty in Christ Jesus, and adamantly refuse any further control. The freed person must learn to exercise his own will and make his own decisions. He may require personal deliverance from spirits of insecurity, inferiority and fear. Too, spirits of condemnation may try to persuade him that he is hurting the other person to whom he has had such a close attachment. He may need help in being able to separate the person from the demons in the person. When this is accomplished he can love the person but hate the demons that seek to control him. Retaliation This group usually stems out of the root of bitterness. These spirits advocate returning evil for evil. An interesting manifestation has been observed when young children were being delivered of this type of spirit. When a parent was holding the child during the deliverance we have seen the child pinch, bite or hit the parent. The disposition of the child would change instantly once the demons were out. Adults are more likely to retaliate through spiteful acts or words. Rejection The door for the spirit of rejection to enter is most frequently opened during childhood, and even while a baby is still in its mother’s womb. When a child is unwanted, the fetus is opened for the entrance of a demon of rejection. I find that some persons are definitely repelled by such a suggestion. They think it terribly unfair that such a thing be possible. We must remember the devil is no gentleman, and he is not regulated by rules of fair sportsmanship. Rather, he is extremely evil and does not hesitate for a moment to take full advantage of a situation which will foster his evil purposes. Satan delights in finding an Achilles heel for a target, choosing the weakest moments in life to attack. When is a person most defenseless? Before he is given birth and during infancy. It is said of John the Baptist before he was born, “He shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb” (Luke 1:15b). Since the Holy Spirit entered John the Baptist before birth, we need not doubt the ability of a demon spirit to enter a person before birth. An unwed mother came to me for ministry. Because of the circumstances of the baby’s conception, she admitted that she did not want the child and had considered abortion. At the time of the ministry she was in her eighth month of pregnancy. Several demons were cast out of the fetus, including the spirit of rejection. As these spirits were challenged, the expectant mother experienced sharp pains in the womb area of her body. These pains completely disappeared as the demons came out through the mother’s mouth. The deliverance minister will do well to question all who come for ministry as to the possibility of rejection. It is extremely common and often very strong. Most children who have been adopted will have spirits of rejection. The very circumstances that necessitated the child’s adoption will have provided an opening for spirits of rejection to gain entrance. Rejection will usually become a three-headed monster. In addition to the basic spirit of rejection there will be a fear-of rejection spirit and a self-rejection spirit. The presence of these demons is readily evidenced through a person’s inability to receive love or to give love to others. Because he has been rejected he becomes fearful of close relationships through which he could experience further hurt. He is afraid to accept the love of others and holds himself aloof. The way is opened for fear-of-rejection. Self-rejection comes along to add to the torment. The person who feels that he is rejected by others will decide there is something wrong with himself that makes others not like him. He turns his thoughts inward and begins to hate himself for what he is. This is self-rejection. Indecision These are mental spirits. They are quite common. A person should normally be able to weigh the factors involved and reach a decision, but these spirits can torment a person over making the smallest decision. Every decision looms as a major crisis. When he cannot decide he postpones. Indecision has led to procrastination, The longer he weighs a matter the more confused he becomes. In desperation or frustration he compromises his decision and settles for less than best. Or he may escape the responsibility of making a decision by forgetting. In some cases procrastination precedes indecision and is the leading spirit. The clue to a procrastination spirit in a child is when the child is heard to say often, “In a minute.” For example, a mother tells her child to clean up his room. The child replies, “In a minute, Mother.” He really intends to be obedient but the spirit of forget¬ fulness pulls it out of his mind. When he is reminded he will explain, “Oh, I forgot.” The mother must then exercise authority. When such a situation arises repeatedly the child may become stubborn and rebellious. Self-Deception “The deceived and the deceiver are his” (Job 12:16). The Lord gave us this verse during a ministry to identify a deep problem in Mr. P. For more than twenty years he had been self-deceived in believing that he was on the verge of a great spiritual revelation concerning the Trinity He believed this revelation would astound the entire Christian world. He demonstrated to us how he believed the revelation would come. He carefully folded a sheet of paper several ways and tore small pieces out of it. As each piece of paper was unfolded it was seen to be a symbol or letter. He believed that one day he would be able to tear and interpret Spirit-inspired symbols that would reveal once and for all the mystery of the Godhead. Self-delusion, self -seduction and pride (companion spirits) convinced him that he, an unknown, would become world renowned. His whole problem had grown out of rejection. His father, a minister, had rejected him from childhood. In an attempt to receive his father’s approval and love he was opened to spirits of delusion which convinced him not only that he would become famous but that his fame would come through a spiritual revelation which would win the admiration of his father. Renunciation of the delusion was not easy for Mr. P. He had great fear that he would be failing God. In such cases of self-deception the person must be confronted with the error, and the delusion must be renounced. When a person falls out of agreement with the lies of the demons he is able to retain his deliverance. Perfection There is a place for organization, orderliness and a job well done. The perfection demon makes a bondage out of these attributes. For example, a person has planned his day. He has decided all that he will do and fit it into a schedule. He binds himself to that schedule. He leaves no room for variation. It is a perfect plan. He is proud that he is able to plan and perform so well. Then something or someone interferes with that plan. He grows irritable. Now he is not able to complete his schedule. He cannot adjust to the interruption. Frustration sets in. Anger rises against the person or thing that has broken his plan. Thus, a whole set of demons is set in motion. The conflict is both inward and outward. Rejection is often behind perfection. The rejected person strives for perfection in an effort to earn respect and acceptance. In other instances perfection is a compensation for inferiority. False Burden The devil delights in wearing out the saints. The devil, unlike God, will put more upon God’s children than they are able to bear. Jesus declared that His yoke is easy and His burden light. A false burden is heavy to bear and is usually self-assumed. Even a pious burden for souls may be satanically imposed. God has a time and a way as well as a purpose. Flowing with the Spirit takes out all the strain. Many believers need deliverance from false burdens, responsibilities and compassions - those that are not from God. Religious Error Religious error is a broad designation embracing false religions, Christian cults, occult practices and false doctrines. Involvement with any of these sources of error can open the door for evil spirits. The association or contact need not be extensive. Any Christian who has had involvement with any kind of religious error should renounce it. In most cases deliverance is needed to free him of oppression. These religious error demons have been found to cause: mental confusion, binding of the mind, dullness of comprehension, depression, fears, physical pains, physical illnesses, false pride, unteachableness, resistance to Biblical truth and spiritual hindrances (to prayer, Bible reading, sermon listening, gifts of the Spirit and faith).
Demonic Groupings and Orders in the kingdom of Satan
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Varnel Watson
there you go Isara Mo Shane Brown Joe Absher BTW Link Hudson did you see this comment left for you? http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ex-warlock-take-on-jezebel/#comment-81027
Varnel Watson
Isara Mo tap here to read the jezebel comment – very extensive http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ex-warlock-take-on-jezebel/?fbclid=IwAR3v1dLbyq89D_mJWo9-aNgd3NM_u-YXmL8IIotbGZw7VWMCbwX8h7qkpn4#comment-81027
Isara Mo
Troy Day
I have listened more than two times the Joni round table talk on Unmasking Jezebel…
I think John Paul Jackson covered the sub well..
Isara Mo
Troy Day
Nevertheless brother Troy I think Jezebel has now taken more time than any other…in.our discussions and lest we are manipulated by her to give her glory without knowing, lets put her in a bottle and seal it and forget her and revert to the WORD OF GOD …
Link Hudson
How is the ‘Jezebel spirit’ idea consistent with the article linked in the OP or some of the other demon-related or spirit-related articles that have been posted in recent threads? The OP argues that demons align with very specific attributes, e.g. such as hate, rejection, etc. Each negative trait is associated with a specific theory. This is along the lines of what I wrote about ‘abstract animism.’
If each trait lines up with one demon, what about the so-called ‘Jezebel spirit’. Jesus referred to that woman Jezebel who called herself a prophetess. (He did not say ‘Jezebel spirit.’) She was involved in leading God’s people to fornicate and eat meat offered to idols– two elements of Canaanite religion like the Baal, etc. worship that Jezebel was promoting. Jesus did not mention domineering her husband, a king, killing prophets, etc. in this passage. There are those who write books and articles about ‘the Jezebel spirit’ who list several negative characteristics that resemble Jezebel in some way, and say those are symptoms of ‘the Jezebel spirit.’
But if trying to get people to eat meat offered to idols is done by just one spirit, and promoting fornication is the sole and exclusive job of the spirit of lust, and if domineering the husband is the work of just one kind of spirit, and making people want to kill prophets is the sole work of just one kind of spirit, how could all this get clustered under ‘the Jezebel spirit.
I saw another post with several characteristics of the so-called ‘religious spirit’– one supposed spirit that manifests in lots of different ways, not a large number of spirits.
These demonology theories seem a bit inconsistent with one another.
If the gods of the nations are demons, do the demons line up at all with the characteristics of the mythologies of these gods? Baal was more than a serpent-smoting spirit, I suppose, though he was supposed to have defeated Lotan (Canaanite cognate for Leviathan) in their mythology.
I am not saying the author of this post cannot have genuine experiences that he is speaking from. I am not an excorcism specialist with very detailed experiences. I have some experience with this sort of thing. But I haven’t sat around commanding spirits to tell me their names and who they are associated with. I am weary of that sort of thing since demons can lie, obviously. Jesus did ask one demoniac what his name was. But what if there are excorcists out there picking up bad demonology from demons and spreading the doctrine they got from demons among others in the body of Christ? A Rebecca Brown trilogy comes to mind as a book that presents some rather wonky-sounding doctrines that seem to have come from talking with an alleged demonized witch.
I do not recall this article actually stating it, but does the author think that all hate or all lust is caused by a spirit or is a spirit? Is every negative characteristic or sinful attitude an actual demon? Where is there room for the flesh to have a negative impact then? Is casting out demons a cure-all for spiritual and emotional problems, or is there a role for overcoming the flesh?
This type of thinking also seems to line up with the type of thinking among some Charismatics that Christians need deliverance from demons, too. If you think all unforgiveness, all lust, etc. is a demon, then you think the Christian who falls in one of these areas is demonized and needs ‘deliverance’ in the sense of a demon cast out of him/her. That is not standard Pentecostal demonology..certainly not A/G demonology,, Troy Day, but some Charismatics see it that way.
It is a stretch to say that the Bible teaches all these characteristics are demons. Wouldn’t we expect to see Jesus and the apostles casting out more demons if every negative attitude were a demon? Do we ever see Jesus commanding demons of unbelief out of all the Pharisees? Did Paul do such a thing? There are some specialty demons, apparently. Some demons do divination, and there are familiar spirits. But we don’t know for sure that all demons are not able to be these spirits when in a host who wants them to do so. A lot of our ideas about the spirit world may be assumptions.
There is also the danger of creating a body of doctrine that does not come from the Bible. For example, the idea that there is a Jezebel spirit that is some kind of demon or principality is not in the Bible.
I am not saying that the Holy Spirit, through a word of knowledge or gift of discernment, could not reveal to someone that there is a spirit with the characteristics of Jezebel at work. We need to judge this like we would a prophecy. But I am very wary of turning this into a doctrine. Someone reads and hears about the ‘Jezebel spirit’ from preachers who did not discover about this spirit by supernatural means themselves. They take the idea that there is a ‘Jezebel spirit’ from other preachers, then add some Bible verses to it, even though there is no way to get the existence of a demon called a ‘Jezebel spirit’ from any text of scripture.
There is so much rich doctrine in the Bible, so much for edification that is actually in there. If a preacher isn’t getting knowledge about the spirit-realm himself, why would he want second or third-hand revelation that isn’t backed up by the Bible? Isn’t that how Charismatic doctrine starts to drift off into weirdness?
Link Hudson
The Table Talk/Joni show said the Jezebel spirit is a spirit of manipulation, control, envy, lust and greed. That contradicts the idea that all spirits are ‘pure-play’– one spirit for lust, one spirit for control, etc.
Varnel Watson
Link Hudson I am copying the comment by Albert in case you cant see it on your screen for whatever reason
Hello Hudson, Hope you are are well.
Those are the right questions here is some information to help answer those questions mostly likely if you are reading blogs like this you have been in a battle or two I will also include a link from two other preachers, as the mistake I made was when first began to deal with this where I did not come in Love and Grace when dealing with the people who where being controlled by it, also from what I have experienced it is a spirit but it works closely with witchcraft and other spirits, so it is more likely a battle strategy hope this helps, here some links but remember perfect love cast out all fear .
John Paul Jackson unmasking the jezebel spirit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fQWxpkWtGFg
Bob Goff Show the love of Jesus it will blow you away!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTzZiU6_S4
Also please google Jospeh Prince he has a lot of teaching on Grace !
What is the jezebel spirit bible verses:
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jezebel-spirit.html
I know that it is not very clear from what’s out there but this helped me to get a better understanding as well as how stand against such attacks in my experience it is a series of very well planned attacks from the enemy to in short derail us from following Jesus so basically what it says in John 10:10.
But my suggestion to you is keep praying for The Holy Spirit to make it clear.
Be blessed
ARM
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ex-warlock-take-on-jezebel/?fbclid=IwAR3v1dLbyq89D_mJWo9-aNgd3NM_u-YXmL8IIotbGZw7VWMCbwX8h7qkpn4#comment-81027
Joe Absher
This just in…
“The spirit of this age”
https://youtu.be/kdh0DZTsyC4
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
Larson has named her(it) right:”The spirit of this age”…
Joe Absher
He lists, witchcraft, sexual immortality, idolatry. Seems pretty accurate to me?
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
Very accurate Joe.
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
When I read and re read Rev 17 and look at the global spritual map I have no qualms that there is a very powerful evil spirit behind all..
One of the seven angels said “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”
Revelation 17:1-2 NIV//
The verse show evil global effect from kings to inhabitants..
It doesn’t say “Jezebel” directly but the description fits her correctly.
In Nahum 3: 4 the verse speaks of the ” mistress of sorceries…who enslaves NATIONS by her witchcraft..
In Isaiah 47, the hallmarks of Jezebel are there, ..Babylon and witchcraft..
Spirit do no die you know although systems may pass away: the same Babylonians spirits are just having a hey day as of old..with different names.
At the end of the age Babylon is still in Gods sight…years and years after the civilisation was gone …if it is not an evil spirit what is it Joe?
Witchraft and immorality is like hand and glove with Jezebel…as well as teaching and idolatry…
Larson has her ID spot on….
Those who dont believe there is a Jezebel spirit let them.do but for me, I received it from a higher source and saw her …more vicious than any wild animal I know….
Joe Absher
The equal dangers of course are men that abuse women and authority. They will use Jezebel teaching or that betrayer Judas as a whipping boy to cover their own failures.
Link Hudson
That just seems weird to me. Why would the mother of harlots be Jezebel? Isn’t that reading a 30 year old pop Charismatic doctrine back intoscripture?
Link Hudson
Isn’t the myth that Lilith was Adam’s first wife, wanted to been in the female superior position, was rejected do Eve was made second? I do not se how that is Biblical? Is it an esoteric interpretation of a triliteral root or just pure legend?
Later Lilith was believed to be a spirit that killed babies. Some Jews made magic bowls to ward it and other spirits off.
Seems similar to me to Jezebel– a spirit not mentioned in scripture around which a set of extrabiblical doctrined developed. But Jezebel was a real person and the doctrines about the Jezebel spirit are tied loosely to scripture based on the assumption that one ‘spirit’ or type if spirit is behind a set of characteristics.
Why woul
Varnel Watson
Isara Mo Joe Absher did you see the links in the comment ALBERT left for Link Hudson It resonates what Chad Macdonald has published about Jezebel spirits taking over America
Link Hudson
I saw it. No time to see the links yet. I have hardly had time to glance at Facebook for the past week or so. It’s hard to find these threads once they’ve passed.
Varnel Watson
YES Link Hudson jezebel spirits would do exactly that with your free time Just ask Isara Mo Chad Macdonald
Link Hudson
Troy Day well my wife just had a miscarriage and I have been bust. But I think Jews may have blamed that on Lilith, who also started as a woman in their lore and was later considered an evil spirit, kind if like He ebel with Charismatics since the late 80s.
Varnel Watson
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/jewish-demonology/
Daniel J Hesse
R u sure?
Varnel Watson
pretty sure
Varnel Watson
When you hear ‘spirit of religion’ or ‘religious spirit’ do you think that means a demon or a set of characteristics only? What about a ‘Jezebel spirit’? Do you think that is an actual demon or principality, or just a set of characteristics.
think of all of the passages that could be stretched to try to teach this stuff.
The most obvious — perhaps because of Jentezen Franklin’s sermon on the topic — is the “spirit of python” in Acts 16:16. Of course the Bible never says anything about a spirit of python, it calls it a spirit of divination. But the Greek word for divination is “pythōna” which is where this teaching comes from. Of course, sound exegesis and teaching reveals that Paul is using this word to associate the spirit with region of Pytho and more specifically the oracle of Delphi.
Associating this spirit with demonic oracle-like activity makes sense in light of what the slave girl in Acts 16 was doing. Franklin’s twisting of this passage to make this spirit one that “squeezes” the life, joy, and goodness out of believers
The other that jumps to mind is the reference to Jezebel in Revelation 2:20. Clearly there are some similarities between this woman in the Thyatiran church and Ahab’s wife, so it makes sense that the writer (and the Lord!) would use the reference. Sound exegesis seems to clearly indicate that Christ is referring to a specific, living individual in the church demonstrating and expressing a demon who is animating or inspiring one or more individuals.
This seems evident based on Christ’s description of having given her time to repent, and His promise to judge and punish her for not having done so (v. 21-23). It’s possible that ‘Jezebel’ here is literally her name, but it’s hard to imagine anyone naming their daughter Jezebel so a demon remains the only sound exegetical explanation Jesus said that that woman Jezebel taught the people to fornicate and to eat meat offered to idols, that might be the similarity with the ancient Jezebel.
Those were aspects of Canaanite religion. Revelation 2 does mention her controlling the pastor-angel or killing the real prophets with her false prophecy and manipulation. This reference has to be spiritual in Revelation and her expressing a ‘spirit.’
It kind of reminds me of Lilith, a woman from a legend about Adam’s first wife before Eve who was rejected because she wanted to be on top. Later Lilith was thought to be an evil spirit that killed babies.
Do we suppose that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about demons? No. But it does tell us all we NEED to know (namely, that they have to go in the Name of Jesus, etc.). For instance, wouldn’t you like to know more about why the demons wanted to go into the swine? What we have is mainly conjecture.
Wouldn’t you like to know where demons come from? Some say they are fallen angels, etc. But to the best of my knowledge, that it nothing but conjecture, too.
However, when someone speaks of a “Jezebel spirit,” I do not take this to be a particular DEMON, but rather a set of behaviors that can enable us to be more watchful with people exhibiting those behaviors. Just as the FBI has profilers that can tell us the traits of certain serial killers (believe it or not, cruelty to animals, bed-wetting, and fire starting are three things that show up in many or most serial killer profiles!), we would be foolish to ignore behaviors that often reveal darker things.
The same with the “Jezebel spirit.” Like I said, I have never considered that a particular demon, but rather someone who is acting in a way that we believe Jezebel acted. Just as we can see people that are controlling, or insecure, or narcissistic–and can divine from that certain elements that we would be wise to regard in the future with other people/situations–so, too, can we see both negative and positive traits in Biblical characters and draw some conclusions.