Acts 4:12 is NO proof for ONENESS theology

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Acts 4:12
[12]Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

35 Comments

  • Reply December 18, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    Nope. The topic has a very very nice picture but WHO can control what FB decides to put? Certainly not us

  • Reply December 18, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    the real theological question here is WHO gave THE name? – and that solves the dilemma of John David Barton

  • Reply December 18, 2018

    Link Hudson

    Troy Day Can you add a picture?

  • Reply December 18, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    The picture is there
    Fb dont like it
    Not much could be done
    The Link uses standard FB API
    It is not linked via the website itself
    Works all the time except when FB glitches
    #ohWell

  • Reply December 19, 2018

    Louise Cummings

    He said in the Word. The example He gave. He was liken it like Husband and wife. When we are Married. We become one. The Bible tells us that. So that is how it is with The Father and Son. And The Holy Spirit. The Bible says their are Three. But they all are One. But you see each One Has His Work to do. The Son obeys The Father. The Spirit leads us into all Truths and Righteousness. Is the way I understand it. You might have a better way of explaining.

  • Reply December 20, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    to prove oneness?

  • Reply May 22, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    Where exactly do Oneness Pentecostals stand in relation to orthodoxy?

    Are they in or out?

    This difference in the matter of words used during baptisms represents something far more important: a different view of the nature of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—what orthodox Christians refer to as the Trinity.

    Beginning about 1913, certain Pentecostal ministers began to ask, “What is the correct apostolic formula for baptizing believers?” Several ministers concluded that the correct formula, the one used by the apostles themselves, was found in Acts 2:38, where Peter proclaims, “Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.”

    Attentive Bible readers will immediately ask, “But didn’t Jesus command the disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?” Indeed, that formula is found in Matthew 28:19. But Oneness Pentecostals just dont care WHEN asked if they believe in God the Father, Son, and Spirit, all Oneness Pentecostals would not know what to tell you and start twisting the BIBLE

  • Reply May 22, 2019

    Philip Williams

    Troy, the way to challenge Oneness is their denial of the Pre-incarnation Son. For that you should pay attention to Heiser’s ‘two powers of Heaven’ less you be guilty of the same kind of modalism.

  • Reply May 22, 2019

    Michael Hazlewood

    YOU people are spiritually retarded sick minded ; Blaspheming Scripture to push a non-Biblical Organizational narrative OBEY ACTS 2:38 or burn

    • Reply May 22, 2019

      Paul L. King

      Michael Hazlewood, Nasty, nasty. Not exactly Holy Spirit-filled, 1 Cor 13 language and attitude. Resorting to logical fallacies such as ad hominem attacks and name calling, rather than addressing the Scriptures hermeneutically, exegetically, and contextually shows the great weaknesses in your arguments as well as lack of Spirit-filled charity.

  • Reply May 22, 2019

    Cameron King

    Luke clearly wasn’t teaching on Baptism in Acts 2:38. He was making reference to Jews being saved and the way one knows they were converting to Christianity is they were baptized in Jesus name. Baptism in the name of the Father or the Spirit would have made this baptism no different that John the Baptist. Luke was just referencing the distinctive. The same concept is true in Acts 4:12. A generic belief in God doesn’t save anyone. It’s the distinctive of Jesus that saves. Especially when preaching to one that is a practitioner of another religion. In this case Peter was preaching to the Jewish Sanhedrin. Acceptance of Jesus would be the definitive factor in conversion.

  • Reply May 22, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    Michael Hazlewood we dont know you well enough to call you names or give your diagnosis though some do give those over the internet for the people who need professional help BUT one thing is clear you dont have Biblical understanding of Acts 4:12 and your reference to Acts 2:38 will probably amount to the same – just throwing verses without knowing what they actually mean Your efforts make oneness no lesser heresy

  • Reply May 22, 2019

    Nora Neel-Toney

    My understanding is they are Pentecostal in their beliefs and teachings. The only difference that I’m aware of they believe and teach a person MUST be baptized in the name of Jesus only. If you are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit you won’t get in heaven.

  • Reply May 23, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    Link Hudson a FB internet question you’ve posed before on this post. Why since the post has its own thumb FB chooses to attach some radical picture like the one above? Is it heretical?

    • Reply May 23, 2019

      Michael Hazlewood

      Without Jesus name called upon in baptism your lost in your sins

    • Reply May 23, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      inst the name of Jesus called in the Trinitarian baptismal formula? What seems to be the problem here – you wanting to disregard the Father and the Spirit in the Trinity ?

    • Reply May 23, 2019

      Michael Hazlewood

      Troy Day I have shown Scripture that Jesus is the Everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace and the Almighty and You choose to ignore Scripture and stay with your religion instead of God

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      You probably have but what about this verse? What is your interpretation of it?

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Michael Hazlewood

      Troy Day You are totally ignoring what I am saying , not reading the Scriptures I give then accusing me of being the heretic , lol Just like the Pharisees

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      Michael Hazlewood I listen to our KJV BIBLE not to you per se and I jusdge heresy and heretical doctrines by the BIBLE not by what you say – I think it is fare since our KJV BIBLE clearly says in Matthew 28:19

      Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Michael Hazlewood

      Troy Day No you don’t listen ; If you culd hear you would obey but hearing you cannot hear so you blow off Scriptures and accuse and Blspheme

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      Michael Hazlewood So I should listen to you and NOT to my

      KJV BIBLE clearly says in Matthew 28:19

      Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Michael Hazlewood

      Troy Day Do what the Bible Christians did in obedience to Jesus and not what you have been taught by Heretics

    • Reply May 24, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      they obeyed Matthew 28:19 which says

      Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

      and did not ignor it like the liberal heretics

  • Reply June 8, 2019

    Miller Isaac

    Yeah Google whatever you don’t want the bible to say and im spamming.

    #OVERIT

    • Reply June 8, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      this is a VERY old discussion we’ve had in this group Gives a great Biblical perspective on the subject without you wanting to delete this verse and that verse WHY Dont you give us your BIBLICAL perspective on this well known verse?

  • Reply June 8, 2019

    Varnel Watson

    Paul L. King You’ve said to have done research on oneness What is your take on this Bible verse as a proof or disproof ?

    • Reply June 8, 2019

      Paul L. King

      This verse is irrelevant to the oneness-trinitarian debate. Both Oneness and Trinitarian people agree that people are saved only through the name of Jesus. Praise God that we agree on at least that. However, the conflict comes in interpreting what is meant by the statement. Oneness people interpret in a very unusual manner. This verse does not prove or disprove oneness or trinitarianism.

    • Reply June 8, 2019

      Varnel Watson

      Paul L. King True but yet often cited by oneness folk because of none other name under heaven

    • Reply June 8, 2019

      David McLaughlin

      Paul L. King The real issue I have with Oneness people is the teaching that if you do not speak in tongues you are not saved.

  • Reply June 8, 2019

    Isara Mo

    //Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
    Philippians 2:9‭-‬11 //
    God had given Him(Jesus) a NAME…

  • Reply June 8, 2019

    Tara

    Very first , Jesus name in not correctly named after the only one son of God , His name is Yeshu .
    This verse means exactly Yeshu not Jesus .
    If you have not read your Bible word by word you will argue with me holy ghost and Holy Spirit is same .
    Dear lover of Abba do not be deceived…….Hour is near…….

  • Reply June 8, 2019

    Tara Sing Bhandari

    Very first , Jesus name in not correctly named after the only one son of God , His name is Yeshu .
    This verse means exactly Yeshu not Jesus .
    If you have not read your Bible word by word you will argue with me holy ghost and Holy Spirit is same .
    Dear lover of Abba do not be deceived…….Hour is near…….

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