ARE FUTURE SINS FORGIVEN?

Posted by David John Maxfield in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

I cannot find a scripture in the bible that states God has forgiven your future sins, can someone help me out ??

Marc Alfano [08/20/2015 3:38 AM]
Hebrews 10:10,14,18. Mark 1:4,8
(I could go on all night- this is a start) 🙂
Hope it helps- God Bless.
Facebook me if you have more questions. 🙂

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 3:42 AM]
Yeah that helps thanks, hebrews was a good one

Marc Alfano [08/20/2015 3:45 AM]
I was looking for the scripture:
“The Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world.”

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 3:49 AM]
Peter I think 🙂

Marc Alfano [08/20/2015 3:52 AM]
An interesting one is Rev. 22:11-13
Linear time does not exist in eternity. You are in one state of being or another. John 18:36

Anna Mae Slate [08/20/2015 8:45 AM]
Our LORD died for all and for all sin. HE PAID IT ALL. Nothing is left to do for us but to come and get his own. AMEN.

Charles Page [08/20/2015 11:10 AM]
Nothing is left to do!!! substitutionary atonement

Marc Alfano [08/20/2015 11:22 AM]
Actually there is……. You have to receive it!
“Believe on the Lord Jesus and thou shalt be saved, you and your household.”

Charles Page [08/20/2015 5:30 PM]
I thought we were saved by grace and not by any works of righteousness.

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:36 PM]
We are saved by Grace through faith, and an expression of our faith in Jesus is that we repent and turn from our sin. James said “show me your faith without works and I’ll show you my faith by my works”

We are not saved by our works, however the grace of God empowers us to do the works of faith and an example of that is conducting ourselves in a way that doesn’t lead us to sin and also leads others to Jesus.

Charles Page [08/20/2015 5:37 PM]
we are empowered to repentance by the new birth. We repent because we are born again not born again because we repent.

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:38 PM]
Jesus showed grace to the woman in adultery by forgiving her, but also instructed her “go away and sin no more” fare to say that she was saved from death and he’ll and no doubt repented, what was left is that she conduct herself in a manner worthy of the calling that God had given her in Christ.

Marc Alfano [08/20/2015 5:38 PM]
Yes, but you must also take the responsibility of “working out your salvation with fear and trembling”
The work is done, but we must believe- Lord help our unbelief!

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:40 PM]
Charles Page that’s not biblical.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:37-38 KJV
http://bible.com/1/act.2.37-38.KJV

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:42 PM]
Repentance comes before baptism. For no one can say that Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Ghost ( corinthians 12:3) and we must first repent in order to receive the Holy Ghost

Charles Page [08/20/2015 5:46 PM]
do you receive the Holy Ghost because you repent? Don’t you receive the Holy Ghost after you are born again. you are sanctified when you repent and then you receive the Holy Ghost.

Doesn’t pricked in our hearts lead us to the work of sanctification.

Marc Alfano [08/20/2015 5:46 PM]
We are justified in Christ-
And sanctified by the Holy Spirit-
So try not to quench or grieve the work of the Holy Spirit in your life. 🙂
We should do the things that “please the Lord”
Living in repentance pleases the Lord: “be merciful to me, the sinner!” 🙂

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:47 PM]
Yes Charles Page but that doesn’t change the fact that repentance comes first

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:48 PM]
I don’t believe God gives the Holy Ghost to anyone who doesn’t want to repent of their sins.

Charles Page [08/20/2015 5:48 PM]
yes but not before regeneration. Sactification follows the new birth!

Charles Page [08/20/2015 5:51 PM]
David, don’t you subscribe to the truth that the unregenerate live in a state of original sin and are dead until a quickening takes place Eph 2:1

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:56 PM]
When the word is preached those who have ears to hear will hear and repentance for sin takes place. Then after that they receive the Holy Ghost, even Jesus said this.

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Luke 24:45-49 KJV
http://bible.com/1/luk.24.45-49.KJV

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 5:57 PM]
Charles Page I may be not understanding you correctly, are you saying that you don’t need to repent before receiving the Holy Ghost ?

Charles Page [08/20/2015 6:04 PM]
you don’t ever stop repenting – every day- forgive me my sins

David John Maxfield [08/20/2015 6:10 PM]
Yes that’s correct, amen, and because of that God has given you the Holy Ghost, but he does not give it to those who choose not to repent of their sins and turn from them, otherwise his name is blasphemed

cindy fox [08/28/2015 9:19 PM]
MR. Page..initial salvation comes AFTER true repentence. With our mouth we confess that JESUS is Lord and are only means of salvation and with the heart we believe this unto salvation. How do we know we need a Saviour?? We are convicted of our sinfulness and want to turn from our wicked sin nature(repentence) by the drawing of the Holy Spirit, We ,believe,repent,trust in the blood of JESUS to take away our sin and then we are born again by the power of GOD (The Holy Spirit).

John Kissinger [02/17/2016 2:37 PM]
if God dont know about them did Jesus die for all future sins too? Ricky Grimsley

Ricky Grimsley [02/17/2016 4:17 PM]
If you believe that God paid for a specific amount of sins that he foreknows……(which I dont). The atonement covers every sin but isnt activated until the new birth and confession. Thats why if any sins we have an advocate with the father. Its an ongoing process.

John Kissinger [02/17/2016 4:28 PM]
yes on the specific amount => ALL (1 John 2:2) http://www1.cbn.com/questions/did-jesus-die-for-the-sins-of-every-person-who-ever-lived

Ilya Okhotnikov [02/17/2016 6:08 PM]
Here you go: Justification of the future!

Nelson Banuchi [02/17/2016 11:02 PM]
Heb 10:10 does not refer to any future sins. It simple reads that Christ offered his body only at one time for all men as sinners in order that those forgiven (“we”; faith and repentance assumed) would be set apart, to serve God cp. 9:24-28).

v.14: Again, future sins are not being forgiven; there is nothing in the text re: future sins. It reads, emphasizing the one offering, men are made *perfect* (“a one-time event with a continuing result”), that is, complete fit for God’s purposes, as they are being continually sanctified (or, purified), progressing in further holiness.

v.18: All that is stated here is simply that no further sacrifice is necessary for sins already forgiven. However, the reference gives no indication that future sins are being contemplated.

From a logical standpoint, let me just say:

(a) For sins to be forgiven they must be committed in order to incur guilt. Since future sins are not committed, no guilt is incurred by them.

(b) Christ died for actual sins committed, not potential sins. That one may possibly commit sins in the future only allows for the possibility of those sins being forgiven.

(c) Which brings us further to the point that only sins repented of are forgiven. Since future sins are not only not committed and incur no guilt, repentance is unnecessary.

Nelson Banuchi [02/17/2016 11:02 PM]
Heb 10:10 does not refer to any future sins. It simple reads that Christ offered his body only at one time for all men as sinners in order that those forgiven (“we”; faith and repentance assumed) would be set apart, to serve God cp. 9:24-28).

v.14: Again, future sins are not being forgiven; there is nothing in the text re: future sins. It reads, emphasizing the one offering, men are made *perfect* (“a one-time event with a continuing result”), that is, complete fit for God’s purposes, as they are being continually sanctified (or, purified), progressing in further holiness.

v.18: All that is stated here is simply that no further sacrifice is necessary for sins already forgiven. However, the reference gives no indication that future sins are being contemplated.

From a logical standpoint, let me just say:

(a) For sins to be forgiven they must be committed in order to incur guilt. Since future sins are not committed, no guilt is incurred by them.

(b) Christ died for actual sins committed, not potential sins. That one may possibly commit sins in the future only allows for the possibility of those sins being forgiven.

(c) Which brings us further to the point that only sins repented of are forgiven. Since future sins are not only not committed and incur no guilt, repentance is unnecessary.

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52 Comments

  • Jon Ray
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Jon Ray

    Ricky Grimsley How could Christ die for ALL sins without foreknowing all things ? David Lewayne Porter

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply August 20, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      Thats easy. Its not like he made sin disappear. He made it possible to be reconciled to god through faith. Its not about quantity. Its about accessibility.

    • Jimmy Pearson
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Jimmy Pearson

      So Jesus death on the cross didn’t actually save anyone?

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      No. Even after death he had to descend into the heart of the earth to preach even though they had died in faith they still had to accept jesus.

    • Jimmy Pearson
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Jimmy Pearson

      There’s no where enough scripture for you to prove that. Even if that was so your basing doctrine of a time of transition from old to new. That’s not a really good explanation of your point.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      1 John 1:9 KJVS
      [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    • Jimmy Pearson
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Jimmy Pearson

      That does nothing to establish that a person who is saved can be unrepentant in sin

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Ricky Grimsley

      Sorry i must have misread something. I dont believe that people are saved if they continue in unrepentant sin.

    • Jimmy Pearson
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Jimmy Pearson

      Sorry wrong thread.

    • Jimmy Pearson
      Reply August 21, 2016

      Jimmy Pearson

      So the cross was a failure. It accomplished salvation for absolutely no one.

  • David Lewayne Porter
    Reply August 20, 2016

    David Lewayne Porter

    Not until we ask for them at that time. (After the short coming – not before).

  • Michael Marquez
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Michael Marquez

    PROVISIONALLY… forgiveness of all sin was made by the blood of Christ at the cross. But forgiveness is APPLIED only on the basis of confession, 1Jn1:9.

  • Jon Ray
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Jon Ray

    If ALL sin is not forgiven ALL creation cannot be restored. For all sin to be forgiven ALL sin must be foreseen and foreknown. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ must be full and complete for the whole creation. The Creator is not going to be surprised by someone’s unforeseen sin within this creation

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    All sin cant be forgiven or no one would go to hell?

  • Jon Ray
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Jon Ray

    Not the point. Did Christ die for all sin is the question. In order to do that he had to have foreknown it all…

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Ricky Grimsley

    I dont follow your logic. If that was case there would be no reason for the mediator and adversary system.

  • Louise Cummings
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Louise Cummings

    I’ve never seen it in the Bible. But it said if we do sin. We have an Advocate With The Father.

  • Louise Cummings
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Louise Cummings

    The Bible said Jesus was at the Right Hand Of The Father Making Intersession for us. Or for our sin.

  • Jon Ray
    Reply August 20, 2016

    Jon Ray

    Colossians 2:13-14 reads as follows, When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.

    The Greek word translated all in this passage is pas. It means each, every, any, all, the whole, all things, everything. This would seem to support the claim that all sins past present and future were forgiven at the cross.

  • David Lewayne Porter
    Reply August 20, 2016

    David Lewayne Porter

    Jon Ray
    But the forgiveness is not applied until we ask for it.

    (And if your interpretation is correct) then explain the sin of blasphemy of The Holy Ghost..

    Was it forgiven at the cross?
    According to Jesus, was it forgiven?

  • Jon Ray
    Reply August 21, 2016

    Jon Ray

    Yes that’s understood. Any other way would be simple universalism – which is the general danger of open and/or relational theism

  • Dennis Lear
    Reply August 25, 2016

    Dennis Lear

    Also sins and transgressions are ONLY forgiven when we REPENT, not just say we’re sorry.

  • Troy Day
    Reply March 20, 2017

    Troy Day

    Bro DAKE shows Earth’s first sinful career https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK_1yJz-xIE

    • Hunter McLain
      Reply March 20, 2017

      Hunter McLain

      You have to repent first. If not and you committed a sin unto death you will go to Hell.

  • Street Preacherz
    Reply March 20, 2017

    Street Preacherz

    Take your eyes off the sin and put your eyes on Jesus Christ. He is still our Advocate. He will keep you and help you if you draw near to HIM. Here is a different kind of question, what does it mean to be strong in grace???

  • Troy Day
    Reply March 20, 2017

    Troy Day

    But ARE FUTURE SINS FORGIVEN? Street Preacherz

    • Street Preacherz
      Reply March 20, 2017

      Street Preacherz

      Is this the fault line between Theology and practice? If you get the victory over sin today or tonight then tomorrow can only be better and stronger and sweeter and more loving. Is temperance still in the Bible or “the glorious liberty of the sons of God”

  • Street Preacherz
    Reply March 20, 2017

    Street Preacherz

    If you get done repenting for the sins you committed today then you can worry about tomorrow. But whatever is not of faith is sin…

  • Troy Day
    Reply March 21, 2017

    Troy Day

    Walk in faith. Talk in faith. Sin not…

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply March 21, 2017

    Joseph Kidwell

    Troy Day, you are right on this subject. The teaching that all of our sins are forgiven, past, present and future is pure Calvinism. 1 John 1:9 lets us know that future forgiveness is based on future confession of sin. We must continue to “walk in the light as He is in the light” if we want the blood of Jesus Christ to cleanse us from our sins.

  • Melvin Harter
    Reply June 16, 2017

    Melvin Harter

    It is a lie of the devil. Unconfessed sins will keep you from entering heaven.

    • Street Preacherz
      Reply June 17, 2017

      Street Preacherz

      Dr. Harter will there be a sanctification #3? I tried to understand what you were teaching. I may have jumped ship on you. Sorry. But please anything you can add to this important subject I would appreciate it very much. this is bro joe

    • Louise Cummings
      Reply June 18, 2017

      Louise Cummings

      Amen.

    • Melvin Harter
      Reply June 18, 2017

      Melvin Harter

      Street Preacherz please express more clearly your question.

    • Street Preacherz
      Reply June 18, 2017

      Street Preacherz

      Is there another piece of the sanctification series

    • Melvin Harter
      Reply June 18, 2017

      Melvin Harter

      Street Preacherz yes there is. In fact, many more. I have just not posted them yet.

    • Street Preacherz
      Reply June 18, 2017

      Street Preacherz

      Thank you I didn’t find it. Mr Troy Day posted the link for #1 but where are the rest? Jesus is very kind. He took my burden of sin and my want for sin.

  • Troy Day
    Reply June 17, 2017

    Troy Day

    Melvin Harter Seems the discussion was not if one is for ever forgiven, but if all future sins that humanity will ever do were forgiven on the cross by Christ. This discussion spurred up from the ones with Ricky Grimsley about Jesus being the Eternal Son of God and the Biblical doctrine of God’s eternal ever and all knowingness

  • Dan Irving
    Reply June 17, 2017

    Dan Irving

    Please define “FUTURE.”

  • Troy Day
    Reply June 17, 2017

    Troy Day

    Great question for David John Maxfield who posted the OP here https://www.facebook.com/640123439376008/posts/882537355134614

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