What has happened to tarrying for power in Pentecostal churches?

Posted by Peter A Vandever in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

What has happened to tarrying for power in Pentecostal churches?

What happened for folks tarrying for salvation? now all you have to do is go forward say a sinner’s prayer… people used to beg God to save them, seems we need that today. However today is the word of faith movement and God is subservient to our petitions.

Lidia Pavlova Martin [09/15/2015 10:07 PM]
One dos not need to beg to be saved. Jesus died for the world, all we need to do is repent. Salvation is by grace , not by works. If you are trying to say that many are not really penetrate and just go through the motions, than I agree.

Charles Page [09/15/2015 10:14 PM]
few believe that salvation is by grace and not works so no begging for salvation at all, true! but few also don’t understand being unworthy of salvation, depraved, unfit…that should be the struggle for folks. Salvation is easy, grace-but accepting that God loves us and freely saves us should be a great struggle. That struggle should remain with us till the end.

William DeArteaga [03/10/2016 7:01 AM]
It was replaced by the simple laying on of hands to receive teh Baptism of the holy Spirit.

Shawn P Brennan [03/10/2016 7:45 AM]
Because, it really wasn’t a biblical mandate to tarry, I don’t see anywhere Jesus, said to tarry or I.e…..beg for something that he freely gives!!!

Deborah Nimm Dearborn [03/10/2016 11:16 AM]
If we truly believed that tarrying was a mandate we could also then say that we should all be going to Jerusalem to receive that power. Luke 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. (KJV). :/

26 Comments

  • Reply October 27, 2016

    Charles Page

    They should be tarrying for a second work of sanctification. Holy Spirit will fill a holy vessel without us begging! Un-sanctified people have to beg a reluctant baptizer.

  • Reply October 27, 2016

    Charlie Robin

    What happened for folks tarrying for salvation? now all you have to do is go forward say a sinner’s prayer… people used to beg God to save them, seems we need that today.

    • Reply October 27, 2016

      Charles Page

      tarrying for salvation is determined by the theological filters you use to experience God. That is the reason for so many denominations.

    • Reply October 27, 2016

      Charlie Robin

      God doesnt mind our filters Ricky Grimsley

    • Reply October 27, 2016

      Charles Page

      No, he doesn’t. He saves unconditionally but our experience of God is determined by our beliefs.

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Tim Renneberg

    Not sure I read in the New Testament that we need to beg for salvation. That said, waiting (the current word that has replaced “tarrying”) on God, particularly for the baptism in the Holy Spirit, is a lost art

    • Reply December 9, 2016

      Louise Cummings

      I haven’t read where you have to begGod for anything. The Lord told Moses to hit the Rock and water would come. That was in reference to Jesus would be smitten on the Cross one time. But after that He said speak to the Rock. Moses was a very with the Israelites complaining. So he hit the Rock again. That’s the reason he couldn’t enter Canaan. Because Jesus will never have to pay for our sins again. Once was sufficient. Noe we just have to speak when we have a need. The way I see it.

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Perhaps not salvation but sanctification is being meant?

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Lennie Marx

    Troy people who have been forest to Tarry do it realize something went wrong so the loose heart and move on to another congregation! Any questions?

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Tim Renneberg

    I’m part of the present, progessive and future camp with regard to sanctification

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Charles Page

    What are we waiting for?

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Lennie Marx

    Tim read 1 Peter 3:15-17!

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Robert Borders

    Takes too long. Football games to watch.

    • Reply December 9, 2016

      Charles Page

      Not to worry -you can receive the BOHS later after the football game is over.

    • Reply December 9, 2016

      Varnel Watson

      Not if teh Super Bowl is part of your service

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Too many uncast demons opposing if you ask me

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Louise Cummings

    Didn’t He tell them to tarry until they be endued with the Power from on High. Or until the Holy Ghost came. After it came and they were all filled. I can’t see where it says tarry after that. If we have to , we need to if we find it hard to receive. Because of doubt , maybe. Or afraid it will be them and not The Spirit. But think it just says after they tarried and theHoly Ghost came. I thought it said after that to receive the Holy Ghost or Spirit in some places in the Bible.

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Randy Buchanan

    We are never told to tarry after the experience of Pentecost. Power in the body of Christ was assumed in the epistles.

    • Reply December 9, 2016

      Louise Cummings

      That’s the way I see it. Altho if they don’t receive the first time. I will pray until the feel they received.

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    ENTIRE SANCTIFICATION is PRESENT in each and every case in ACTS where prior to receiving the Holy Ghost

    Acts 2 the apostles waited tarrying for 10 days
    Acts 8 the Samaritans waited tarrying since the preaching of Phillip
    Acts 9 Paul waited tarrying for 3 days
    Acts 10 Cornelius was led by the Spirit to wait and tarrying for 4 days
    Acts 19 They’ve been waiting tarrying since they believed

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Charles Page

    Tarrying for sanctification?

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Getting sanctified while tarrying for the Holy Ghost. PRESENT in each and every case in ACTS where prior to receiving the Holy Ghost

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Charles Page

    Can’t see that in Acts 2

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Really? Try seeing it in John 17 then John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. Sounds familiar? Were you once sanctified Charles Page

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Charles Page

    Still sanctified

  • Reply December 9, 2016

    Charles Page

    Wouldn’t be filled w/Holy Ghost w/ initial evidence if I wasn’t sanctified

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What has happened to tarrying for power in Pentecostal churches?

Posted by in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

What has happened to tarrying for power in Pentecostal churches?

Charles Page [09/15/2015 9:46 PM]
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Charles Page [09/15/2015 10:03 PM]
what happened for folks tarrying for salvation? now all you have to do is go forward say a sinner’s prayer… people used to beg God to save them, seems we need that today. However today is the word of faith movement and God is subservient to our petitions.

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Lidia Pavlova Martin [09/15/2015 10:07 PM]
One dos not need to beg to be saved. Jesus died for the world, all we need to do is repent. Salvation is by grace , not by works. If you are trying to say that many are not really penetrate and just go through the motions, than I agree.

Charles Page [09/15/2015 10:08 PM]
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Charles Page [09/15/2015 10:14 PM]
few believe that salvation is by grace and not works so no begging for salvation at all, true! but few also don’t understand being unworthy of salvation, depraved, unfit…that should be the struggle for folks. Salvation is easy, grace-but accepting that God loves us and freely saves us should be a great struggle.

That struggle should remain with us till the end.

William DeArteaga [03/10/2016 7:01 AM]
It was replaced by the simple laying on of hands to receive teh Baptism of the holy Spirit.

Shawn P Brennan [03/10/2016 7:45 AM]
Because, it really wasn’t a biblical mandate to tarry, I don’t see anywhere Jesus, said to tarry or I.e…..beg for something that he freely gives!!!

Deborah Nimm Dearborn [03/10/2016 11:16 AM]
If we truly believed that tarrying was a mandate we could also then say that we should all be going to Jerusalem to receive that power. Luke 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. (KJV). :/

Troy Day [03/10/2016 5:40 PM]
Metal folding chair? What was that all about? Charles Page

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