Wow, I read this post, and while it tries to make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. It sounds a lot like what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
Michael Faber Wow, I read your short comment, and while it tries to make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. Valentines is great – just ask your wife if you still got 1 – It sounds you’ve got A LOT OF what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
Wow Dean Williams I read your short comment, and while it tries to make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. Valentines is great – just ask your wife if you still got 1 – It sounds you’ve got A LOT OF what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
RT the original OP comment Here what I wrote to my congregation in our weekly newsletter:
When the Secular Reinforces the Sacred
A Valentine’s Day Thought
In keeping with Romans 12:2, some of us become conflicted when considering the celebration or observance of national or cultural holidays and events. The associated concern is understandable, since many celebrations arise from secular origins that are fully emptied of any fidelity to Scripture, and quite frankly, can serve to do the exact opposite. Here, to address this possible conflict of mind, I should note that not every cultural observance stands in opposition to Scripture. In fact, the truth is, many of those cultural observances significantly echo what God himself has commanded, and as such, they actually serve to reinforce what which is good, acceptable, and perfect.
Valentine’s Day is one such example. Scripture calls husbands to love their wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her” (Eph. 5:25). As Christians, we know through Scripture that this is not a seasonal suggestion but a daily calling to be sacrificial, covenantal, and Christlike. Yet, in spite of knowing this to be a daily calling, we should readily acknowledge that the presence of a day set aside to express affection, gratitude, and devotion can serve as a providential reminder of that biblical command.
So, we see then, that in God’s kindness, even the rhythms of our culture can prompt us toward obedience. A card, a word of affirmation, a thoughtful gesture; these are not substitutes for faithful, lifelong love, rather they serve as tangible expressions of it. It is here that we affirm that Valentine’s Day does not create the Christian duty to love; Scripture already does that. What we should note however, is that it can remind us, prod us, and give us a moment to practice that love in intentional ways.
So, dear brothers in Christ, let us seize this moment to laud our wives with flowers, food, and any other tangible expression of love we can think of. Let there be an overabundance of expressions so that they flow over to our daughters who are learning through you, what it means to be loved and cared for. Wives, I pray that you will know and experience the love of Christ as expressions of love fill your day and your heart.
And may all this be done in a way that pleases and brings glory to our Lord. Amen!
Pastor Geoffrey Dean
Brother, I appreciate your right to your commentary, but must say they are groundless as they relate to what “I actually communicated.”. (1) My comments totally point to the fact that it’s good to celebrate Valentines. So I don’t have to ask my wife of 34 years, because we’ve been doing so the entire time we’ve been married. (2) There are absolutely no hidden truths and secret knowledge assertions anywhere in my commentary; explicitly or implicitly, so one can only say something like that if they are unable to see that which is plainly before them, or they are in the practice of habitually mining the thoughts of others for “unseen,” or “uncommunicated,” meaning. I can assure you there is nothing like that in my post. Fact is: My commentary is nowhere close to having any gnostic bent in the proper definition of the term, but is in fact both Christ-centered and biblical. Take for instance its alignment with 1st Corinthians 14:5 which says, “One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.” My opening statement is literally grounded in that, along with other clearly biblical principals. I could go on with further exegetical explanations, but suffice to say what I shared with you is what a pastor who understands the diverse nature of the congregation he has, and the “I’m on this side of the issue, I’m on this side…” way of thinking that often divides or attacks the unity that Christ himself died to bring about in his body, and thus the need to lead by weighing in. Update: Now that I’m reading some of your other responses, I see that the “seems like Gnosticism” is a canned response, and not coming from any vigorous Berean like (Acts 17) work. That’s unfortunate. Blessings to you Sir.
@followers sounds like Bob W Jones + Philip Williams still try make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. Valentines is great – just ask your wife if you still got 1 – It sounds you’ve got A LOT OF what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
we do not call names here Garry Turner we just do not BUT may be you are caught red handed on the wrong foot with Troy D. Adams +@Elton Michael Misfeldt here
Gray Watson
Wow, I read this post, and while it tries to make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. It sounds a lot like what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
Troy Day
Michael Faber Wow, I read your short comment, and while it tries to make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. Valentines is great – just ask your wife if you still got 1 – It sounds you’ve got A LOT OF what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
Troy Day
Wow Dean Williams I read your short comment, and while it tries to make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. Valentines is great – just ask your wife if you still got 1 – It sounds you’ve got A LOT OF what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
RT the original OP comment Here what I wrote to my congregation in our weekly newsletter:
When the Secular Reinforces the Sacred
A Valentine’s Day Thought
In keeping with Romans 12:2, some of us become conflicted when considering the celebration or observance of national or cultural holidays and events. The associated concern is understandable, since many celebrations arise from secular origins that are fully emptied of any fidelity to Scripture, and quite frankly, can serve to do the exact opposite. Here, to address this possible conflict of mind, I should note that not every cultural observance stands in opposition to Scripture. In fact, the truth is, many of those cultural observances significantly echo what God himself has commanded, and as such, they actually serve to reinforce what which is good, acceptable, and perfect.
Valentine’s Day is one such example. Scripture calls husbands to love their wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her” (Eph. 5:25). As Christians, we know through Scripture that this is not a seasonal suggestion but a daily calling to be sacrificial, covenantal, and Christlike. Yet, in spite of knowing this to be a daily calling, we should readily acknowledge that the presence of a day set aside to express affection, gratitude, and devotion can serve as a providential reminder of that biblical command.
So, we see then, that in God’s kindness, even the rhythms of our culture can prompt us toward obedience. A card, a word of affirmation, a thoughtful gesture; these are not substitutes for faithful, lifelong love, rather they serve as tangible expressions of it. It is here that we affirm that Valentine’s Day does not create the Christian duty to love; Scripture already does that. What we should note however, is that it can remind us, prod us, and give us a moment to practice that love in intentional ways.
So, dear brothers in Christ, let us seize this moment to laud our wives with flowers, food, and any other tangible expression of love we can think of. Let there be an overabundance of expressions so that they flow over to our daughters who are learning through you, what it means to be loved and cared for. Wives, I pray that you will know and experience the love of Christ as expressions of love fill your day and your heart.
And may all this be done in a way that pleases and brings glory to our Lord. Amen!
Pastor Geoffrey Dean
Dean Williams
Brother, I appreciate your right to your commentary, but must say they are groundless as they relate to what “I actually communicated.”. (1) My comments totally point to the fact that it’s good to celebrate Valentines. So I don’t have to ask my wife of 34 years, because we’ve been doing so the entire time we’ve been married. (2) There are absolutely no hidden truths and secret knowledge assertions anywhere in my commentary; explicitly or implicitly, so one can only say something like that if they are unable to see that which is plainly before them, or they are in the practice of habitually mining the thoughts of others for “unseen,” or “uncommunicated,” meaning. I can assure you there is nothing like that in my post. Fact is: My commentary is nowhere close to having any gnostic bent in the proper definition of the term, but is in fact both Christ-centered and biblical. Take for instance its alignment with 1st Corinthians 14:5 which says, “One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.” My opening statement is literally grounded in that, along with other clearly biblical principals. I could go on with further exegetical explanations, but suffice to say what I shared with you is what a pastor who understands the diverse nature of the congregation he has, and the “I’m on this side of the issue, I’m on this side…” way of thinking that often divides or attacks the unity that Christ himself died to bring about in his body, and thus the need to lead by weighing in. Update: Now that I’m reading some of your other responses, I see that the “seems like Gnosticism” is a canned response, and not coming from any vigorous Berean like (Acts 17) work. That’s unfortunate. Blessings to you Sir.
Troy Day
@followers sounds like Bob W Jones + Philip Williams still try make some big claims about ‘hidden truths’ and ‘secret knowledge,’ I gotta say, it just doesn’t feel right. Valentines is great – just ask your wife if you still got 1 – It sounds you’ve got A LOT OF what they call Gnosticism, which isn’t new.
Troy Day
we do not call names here Garry Turner we just do not BUT may be you are caught red handed on the wrong foot with Troy D. Adams +@Elton Michael Misfeldt here
Troy D. Adams
Why are you tagging me?