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Interested to hear what people’s thoughts are on the Nephilim in Gen. 6 and how it might relate to today? “As in the days of Noah”.
Brian Crisp [01/12/2016 12:53 PM]
The Nephilim were the offspring of fallen angels and human women. Some believe they are returning somehow but I do not know if I buy into that for now at least.
John Kissinger [01/12/2016 1:34 PM]
discussed so many times in this group that it got old http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/?s=Nephilim
Jonathan McCandless [01/12/2016 1:43 PM]
I didn’t know that it was talked about before. Is it no proper to talk about it again????? Is there any other subjects I shouldn’t bring up because they’ve been talked about before?
But it is old actually, dates back to Early biblical times.
Ricky Grimsley [01/12/2016 3:06 PM]
I believe that it relates now because laboratories all over the world are creating human/chimeras. I believe that the nephilim topic is what jesus was eluding to in his famous in the days of noah quote. If you are familiar with tom horn or steve quayle….that is exactly what i believe.
John Kissinger [01/12/2016 3:19 PM]
Jonathan McCandless just keeping you informed of what’s already done here. Do tell us your opinion of interest in this topic!
Jonathan McCandless [01/12/2016 8:04 PM]
I tend to agree with Ricky. Very interesting topic! Transhumanism and what they are trying to do with the human DNA is frightful to say the least!
John Kissinger [01/12/2016 8:13 PM]
I take it you did not read the discussion 🙂
Jonathan McCandless [01/12/2016 8:57 PM]
Reading it yes.tonight.
Varnel Watson
here is a great discussion on angelic failures Rico Hero Philip Williams in light of Gen 6 I dont see how Heiser can offer different interpretation
Philip Williams
Troy Day is that a utube? How to watch or read?
Varnel Watson
a brief discussion among many others http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/?s=NEPHILIM
Philip Williams
Troy Day how to access those YouTube’s? Maybe because I’m using an iPhone?
Varnel Watson
Not all of it is videos If youtube they were embeded In some cases authors removes their videos Go figure
John Palacios
I don’t think they were angels if we read the whole chapter talks about man not angels ! Angels can’t reproduce
Philip Williams
John Palacios where is there any reproduction in Psalm 82, John 6?
John Palacios
Philip Williams both places talk about man . Nit angels
Philip Williams
John Palacios you can’t assume what you suppose to prove.
John Palacios
Philip Williams that goes both ways …
Philip Williams
John Palacios of course. Why I went to the exegesis on Deu 32, etc. Did you read?
John Palacios
Philip Williams I have and haven’t find the word angels in that chapter either … it’s all about man been rebellious
Philip Williams
John Palacios what text are you using, Masoretic or the original Hebrew?
John Palacios
Philip Williams if I don’t see it on King James I don’t search in any more places . That’s more than enough for me , thanks
Varnel Watson
same with the word giants in LXX Gen 6 – of course giant and the great/big/high ones are close in meaning
Philip Williams
John Palacios ok, but know that God is bigger than that.
Philip Williams
Troy Day I think the nephilim were actually big men (6 foot is giant for most of the history of mankind. Just what I observe among those who died in the Flood. Here I differ from Heiser.
Varnel Watson
obviously some lived after the flood too but giants refers to the seed of the nephilims and not the nephilims themselves
Philip Williams
Troy Day ??
Robert Erwine
Biological fail if you think humans and angels can mate and breed
Philip Williams
Norm Geisler asked how I understood this. I see them as angelic spirits taking possession of men. Norm liked that.
Varnel Watson
i.e. those human daughters were demonized?
Philip Williams
Troy Day Or literally had demonized husbands.
Varnel Watson
why husbands? it says daughters of mankind
Philip Williams
Troy Day daughters of mankind had demonized husbands.
Daniel J Hesse
Norm informed us in a group meeting, he has struggled and changed several times in his understanding of this passage.
Varnel Watson
daughters of mankind took fallen angels and become demonized
Ray E Horton
I always took it as the descendents of Seth intermarrying with descendents of Cain. Angels/demons and humans can’t intermarry.
Philip Williams
Ray E Horton yeah, the Augustinian view. What amount demonized men seeking to take whatever beautiful women they please. Kind of like Pharaoh possibly killing Abraham to take his beautiful wife Sarah.
Philip Williams
How do the principalities and powers rule this earth except through men?