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Tom Steele | PentecostalTheology.com
Kenneth Copeland and Rod Parsley are ready to come into agreement for your miracle. Miracle, Healing and Victory Jubilee Prayer Cloth Service 2015.
Ricky Grimsley [11/08/2015 9:43 PM]
Maybe if kenneth copeland can take time out of his pope francis love fest. People should really test anything that copeland is involved in. Anyone who submits to the pope needs to find his way back to jesus.
John Kissinger [11/09/2015 6:03 AM]
http://www.charismanews.com/us/52953-how-god-worked-miracles-against-rod-parsley-s-cancer
Steve Webb [11/09/2015 8:19 AM]
Kenneth Copeland??
John Kissinger [11/09/2015 8:23 AM]
Copeland and the Pope are “prophetically tight” http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/re-defining-prophesy-in-the-bible/
John Conger [11/13/2015 12:20 AM]
Yea! How much?
Ricky Grimsley
I just dont see how people can be saved and link together with the pope and his other minions. Rod parsley knows better.
Varnel Watson
I get up early this Sunday AM and 3 Parsley quotes pop up on my stream
Michael Ellis Carter Jr. Here’s when you
Can stop repenting: When you stop sinning – Dr. Rod Parsley
Chad Macdonald “Only 4% of millennials are Bible-believing Christians. So stop giving them what they can get at any business school or Vegas strip and find a Bible!”
+ and old one by Charles Page on Copeland
AND I am quickly reminded of Peter A Peter Vandever saying Rod doesnt seem as strong on jmpartation as he used to be
he has changed a bit in the years past I stopped following him
One of the most wicked things I have ever seen – Rod Parsley and the anatomy of a money scam please warn your flocks about guys like this and how they blaspheme God to serve their own greed and lusts. Nobody says God’s promises are for sale, but some folk come across as teaching just that.
For once I would love to hear something like, “Do you know a widow who is barely making it on her SS?” OR “Find that single mother or dad who is having trouble making ends ‘meet’. You will be blessed beyond measure to see their eyes light up as you buy the weeks groceries of bless them with a week’s day care.” UncleJD
Some people hear God in miraculous ways often, other of us maybe only a few times in our life. I’m one of the later so far, so those times stand out to me. 30 years after it happened, I still remember the night God spoke to me in a dream about Rod Parsley. A leader in our church announced he was moving to Ohio to be part of his ministry. I really didn’t know ANYTHING about him yet so I had no bias at all. I had a dream that I’ll never forget, in which a clear and powerful voice said “J… (the leader’s name) has followed The Ghoul”. I remember sitting straight up and being horrified. I told my brother the next day. Sadly, in a matter of months, that man lost his family and everything he ever had after making that move. I’ll never forget it.
I have seen this kind of manipulation by other so-called prophets. One preached in my church a couple of times. He packed the place like no other preacher I ever booked. I finally “wised up” and confronted him on his error in regards to money. I heard him threaten the congregation with “curse” if they spoke openly about the way he received offerings. I showed him his error scripturally and expected repentance. What I saw and heard was hard headedness and refusal to change. I haven’t talked to him since then.
Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Troy Day very interesting that one would think he does not impart anymore. I guess if all you see are the sound bytes and tv clips that would be believable. They are still doing an incredible work and touching lives, are there issues at the campus of course all of our churches have them. All I’m saying is he stills impart, raise up leaders, push for salvation, and ask for those who are not filled to quit making a mess of the gospel. Yes he will raise money and whatever he does with that is a different story.
Varnel Watson
Michael Ellis Carter Jr. maybe FB chose OPs for me?
Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Troy Day ha ha ha Facebook wanted you full of the Holy Spirit lol jk. I understand your point though trust me.
Daniel J Hesse
Where is Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme?
Philip Williams
Apostles were chosen by Jesus to give us the faith once and for all time entrusted to the saints. That job was completed as they left us their testimony, our New Testament.
New apostles would necessarily change the foundation of the church through the ages.
Present day “apostles” are defended by exalting men and also by attacking the unity of the original apostles. Thus, any who claim to be Apostles are ignorant, prideful, and workers of division.
The Apostles did indeed have Jesus’s authority, but these present-day pretenders merely have their own. One and all, they need to be condemned for the Lord will certainly do so at his Coming. All who herald these false apostles will share in their shame.
James Michael Sanders
Philip Williams brother I do agree that there are false Apostles (many). Just as there are false Pastors and so on. But the scriptures do not teach that there will be no more Apostles. Jesus calls and establishes His five fold ministry team. He does this not us. There are many men saying they are Pastors that Jesus did not call. Filled with pride and arrogance also.
I do agree the original Apostles played a huge role in the New Testament, But only a few.
I may be misunderstanding what you’re saying though, if so I apologize ahead of time if so. Heading off to the fellowship, have a blessed day!
Philip Williams
James Michael Sanders an Apostle today!
Where! The whole world ought to know! Those men had great power and authority.
James Michael Sanders
Philip Williams what power and authority are speaking of? Obviously no one has authority to add anymore inspired writings in that I agree. But again all the Apostles didn’t do that, so we can’t say that is a factor in being an Apostle.
So what power and authority do you refer too?
Philip Williams
James Michael Sanders
all(!) the apostles had witnessed the risen Jesus who sent them to testify about him and the good news.
God testified of them by giving them the same power as Jesus to raise the dead, heal the sick, and change the whole world which they did.
James Michael Sanders
Paul witnessed Him in a different way than the others. I’ve both heard and experienced myself a personal experience with Jesus. (Let me be clear, I AM NOT AN APOSTLE NOR CLAIMING THAT.) I’m simply a servant who He has called to Pastor a flock. I don’t see that as a position of power and prestige by the way, I see it a servants position to Jesus and His sheep.
All men are called to testify and Jesus and the good news.
I also believe Jesus power and authority that’s in His name is given to all of His church. I have no power in myself. Yet I prayed over my daughter who was dead in Philadelphia after one of her heart surgeries and she was raised back to life. I’ve prayed over my entire family and seen many, many, many miracles of healing. I’ve seen it in every church we’ve served. Everything from Cancer, muscle diseases, eye issues, etc etc.
I’m taking NOTHING away from the Apostles. But they turned the known world of their time upside down.
It was His church that was established after them and still going today that has turned the entire world upside down with the Gospel of Jesus. Yes Jesus is ALWAYS the cornerstone and foundation. The Apostles Gospels are still in action today. Yet it’s Jesus church through out time and now still turning the world upside down.
Everyone didn’t believe under Jesus or the Apostles. There were many who hated and rejected and killed the Apostles and early church. That’s y’all happening today. Yet there are Christians being used in every generation to turn their world upside down for Jesus.
It wasn’t just the twelve that operated in His Power. Remember 70 was sent out doing work for Jesus and casting out demons etc.
When the Spirit was poured out on Pentecost 120 were filled and operated in His Power. Deacons proclaimed the Gospel. Again I’m NOT taking anything away from the Apostles, but, the same power that was given then is available and given to His bride now.
Lastly, let me be clear I’m not a fan or follower of the tv evangelist that claim mess and have led so many astray. Wolves in sheep’s clothing for certain. But there are many genuine servants that He has reserved that are being used today in mighty ways for His glory and name sake.
Philip Williams
James Michael Sanders i agree with all that and thank God for your wonderful ministry.
True there were many apostles other than the 12. They had all witnessed Jesus because he sent them to testify about him.
I don’t doubt that you witnessed Jesus. So have I in a major way. But the foundation of the church laid by the Apostles has long been established. Our witness confirms the Apostles’ testimony. We build on the Apostles testimony. Our testimony might help restore faith, but it must be the same faith as that of the Apostles.
James Michael Sanders
Philip Williams I do agree we must stick to the Word and His testimony. We don’t need so called new revelations that seem to be inspired. The Word and the Spirit will always agree.
By the way please know I only shared what the Lord has done in my personal life or around me as a reference of His work in and through us all. I’m one that definitely deserved Hell and I by no means shared that to attempt to make myself anything. I’m nothing outside of Jesus. Love you brother and I hope you’ve had a blessed day so far!
Steve Losee
those two aren’t qualified to answer that question.
Isara Mo
Apostles who are stuck.in America only?…
Philip Williams
Present day apostles are false witnesses due to the fact that they mislead the world to supposing thatJesus’s Apostles might be like this sorry lot. That damages the cause of faith.
The Pope has long been doing that. But is it any less wrong for Protestants?
Joshwa Bedford
No, Apostles were chosen and called by Jesus. Furthermore, Apostles had the authority to write scripture. These are two qualifications that are impossible for today. Anyone who claims to be an Apostle today should not be trusted. I’ve heard it said that the closest thing to an “apostle” today, is a church planter. However, if a church planter claimed to be an “apostle” I would run.
Daniel J Hesse
We are all sent because the Lord has chosen and sent us.
Varnel Watson
Daniel J Hesse why would FB think I am a parsley fan?
Chad Macdonald
Troy Day I’m most certainly a fan— he’s a man of God and my spiritual father and I thank God for His voice in my life. Apparently I’m on the wrong page
Varnel Watson
Chad Macdonald did you read today’s article?
Casius Leonidas
Chad Macdonald would you consider him an Apostle of Christ?
Varnel Watson
Casius Leonidas who?
Charles Page
There are not any in the COG, that I know of!!!
Chad Macdonald
yes he is an Apostle- I believe in the full 5 fold offices. I do not subscribe to cessationism in the operations of the gifts of the Spirit or in the gifts to the church (5 fold)
Casius Leonidas
Troy Day Parsley
Varnel Watson
Casius Leonidas were you calling me one 🙂
Casius Leonidas
Chad Macdonald how do you feel about Bill Johnson and his take on being a modern day Apostle?
Casius Leonidas
Troy Day I was asking Chad a question regarding Rod Parsley
Varnel Watson
Casius Leonidas seems like you were calling me apostle over Charles Page 🙂
Chad Macdonald
Casius Leonidas I love Bill Johnson. He’s my brother in Christ and a man of God. Yes I believe he has that grace on his life
James Michael Sanders
Chad Macdonald I agree brother. I do not subscribe to “ANY CESSATIONISM” It’s not biblical and it shouldn’t be taught. Jesus hasn’t changed nor has His callings or gifts.
I don’t know Parsley or what he teaches anymore so I can’t say anything about that and honestly wouldn’t have a desire unless I felt led to do so.
Varnel Watson
is Bill Johnson still @ Bethel? Yeah – no Peter Vandever
Chad Macdonald
Troy Day yes he is
Joshwa Bedford
Anyone who claims to be a modern day Apostle is a heretic.
James Michael Sanders
Joshwa Bedford what scriptures do you have to make such a claim?
I’m not talking about what you’ve been taught by men. Or what you can explain away using thoughts and opinions.
I’m asking what clear descriptive scriptures do you stand on that would support such a statement?
Ephesians 4:11-12 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
This is the authority of why I fully accept that Jesus is the one that establishes and gives the body of Christ the five fold ministry. Saints are still being made in 2019 and still need equipping for the work of the ministry. They still need edified and built up today.
Honestly I’m shocked that other Pentecostals have embraced cessationism. I’m knew to the group and I’ve never seen this in our fellowships. I truly thought all Pentecostals and full gospel believers embraced continuation of the Holy Spirit and gifts and callings.
Isara Mo
Joshwa Bedford
//And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Ephesians 4:11-12 KJV//
Which apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers and evangelists is the scripture talking about?
Certainly not Peter and John and Phillip and others…
It speaks about living apostles and prophets and teachers and evangelists…
Isara Mo
James Michael Sanders
A real Pentecostal cannot be a cessationist…
Daniel J Hesse
Ask FB?