How to Overcome the 80/20 Church Rule

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How to Overcome the 80/20 Church Rule

Julius Streeter [03/19/2015 9:08 AM]
more literature, more biblical preaching, and artistic representation in music, art, sport and education, schools for excellence

Julius Streeter [03/19/2015 9:08 AM]
more literature, more biblical preaching, and artistic representation in music, art, sport and education, schools for excellence

Julius Streeter [03/19/2015 9:11 AM]
MORE MISSIONARY MINDED, Take the gospel to every part of earth make Jesus the real saviour more culturally recognisable than coca cola who advertise as “the real thing” do saints display the salvation product as effectively as the world promoting coco cola?

Julius Streeter [03/19/2015 9:11 AM]
MORE MISSIONARY MINDED, Take the gospel to every part of earth make Jesus the real saviour more culturally recognisable than coca cola who advertise as “the real thing” do saints display the salvation product as effectively as the world promoting coco cola?

Mark Biteler [03/20/2015 10:07 PM]
When it comes to overcoming the 80/20 rule, Church leaders may want to consult the Holy Spirit they systematically, methodically, habitually ignore. Never once is the Holy Spirit mentioned in this article which is typical. A “highly” functioning church without the Holy Spirit; without listening to the Holy Spirit; without depending on the Holy Spirit for revelation; without flowing with the Holy Spirit? C’mon…let’s get real; better yet, lets repent of our pride and willingness to follow the wisdom of man rather than the Spirit of God. I am appalled how the Church continues to attempt any type of ministry at all without the Holy Spirit. Christianity is by definition super-natural, but it appears that Church leaders today believe anything but that. The Church has morphed into Franken Church – it looks like it’s living, but you can discern there is something very stiff and dead about it. Oh, and by the way, it doesn’t take a Church consultant to discern that! Franken Church methods are widely espoused by so-called church growth experts or consultants. They are the Dr. Frankenstein’s of our day who know neither the Scripture nor the power of God. I take it back…that analogy may be too kind. Dr. Kevorkian’s would be better, but in this case, they give just enough “counsel” to keep the patient just above a coma-state existence. Nothing, and I mean nothing, can be done without the Holy Spirit. The Church believes it can do everything without Him and it is paying the price for its pride and rebellion.

4 Comments

  • Reply April 11, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    A recent survey shows that the 80/20 principle is a fact of church life in most congregations — only 20 percent are heavily involved, while 80 percent are minimally involved and attend infrequently at best. They act more like spectators than members. Is this true for your church? http://churchinfluence.com/how-to-overcome-the-8020-church-rule-with-social-media/ David Lewayne Porter David M. Hinsen

  • Reply April 11, 2016

    David M. Hinsen

    It used to be true when we started pastoring the church but now it’s about 60-65% are heavily involved

  • Reply April 11, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Not too sure about it either. Perhaps Carl Murphy and Link Hudson or other ex-execs with business degrees can advise how this rule works in the secular sector, but as far as the church most consultants dont see it validated any longer…

  • Reply April 11, 2016

    Carl Murphy

    If you have 65% heavily involved I would say you either have a tremendous ministry, a very small church or a different definition of the the phrase. Getting 65% heavily involved in anything is a tremendous feat. Think about the current election, come November it 65% turned out just to cast a ballot you would have to go back over a hundred years to match it. Folks today want to be entertained, their attention spans are 30 seconds long and they don’t want to be told they need to change. I admire ministers that can get 20% heavily involved. I remember years ago a preacher saying, those that attend on Sunday morning love the preacher, those that come on Sunday night love the church, those that come on Wednesday night love the Lord

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