Gemstones for Jesus

Posted by Peter A Vandever in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

Gemstones for JesusI might get some heat for this but we need to really think about gemstone craziness out of Patricia King and others. Does it line
up with the Bible?

Corey Forsyth [11/30/2015 6:18 PM]
My question to all of this stuff is, what benefit does it provide to the body of Christ? If the gifts of the Spirit are supposed to edify and benefit the Body, shouldn’t so called miracles like these? Also, would it not be more Christ-like to provide means to feed the poor and take care of the disadvantaged than to show off some supernatural gold dust just for show?

Peter A Vandever [11/30/2015 6:20 PM]
That is discussed and what purpose they should have.

Corey Forsyth [11/30/2015 6:34 PM]
I have said for years that the church has run with their emotions far too long. I held the mic for a “healing evangelist” while he was showing a “miracle” and it was nothing more than an illusion mixed with all the right emotional hype.
When I first felt God calling me for ministry, I made a commitment to myself and God that I would intentionally harness my emotions to ensure that I was always true to Him and His Word rather than flowing in mere emotion. Unfortunately for many high profile ministries, being authentic in regard to the working of the Holy Spirit doesn’t bring in the big bucks.

Brian Garrett [11/30/2015 8:09 PM]
Excellent article.

Robert Borders [11/30/2015 8:16 PM]
Thank you for your balanced approach.

John Kissinger [11/30/2015 8:17 PM]
I liked better the one on the Kansas City prophets, but very little was said about Jim Goll who has recently had some influence in our area of ministry through his book The Seer http://destinyimage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Seer-Expanded-Edition.pdf

Tammy Rockwell [11/30/2015 8:21 PM]
It fits American Christianity but not Orthodox Christianity

Keith Stone [11/30/2015 8:27 PM]
She looks like a Jezebel

Jerrod Buffington [11/30/2015 9:13 PM]
gem stones are good, i have them in a meeting once, its just deep heart felt worship with a prophetic minister. god will just show you thats happening and you aknowledge them like “there are gem stones here” and they appear. THey are a symbol of the bride of Christ adornmed with precious stones thats it. People do get to carried away for them but thats with anything new

Sonja Wilson-Horn [11/30/2015 10:08 PM]
Jezebel spirit

Peter A Vandever [11/30/2015 11:59 PM]
She is not a political leader. Not a Jezebel.

Charles Page [12/01/2015 12:03 AM]
Sonja, means well, she has jewelry, cropped hair and she has a silly grin – she just looks like a jezebel!!!

My bet is she is wearing slacks also!

Tammy Rockwell [12/01/2015 12:07 AM]
I commented before I read the article. I will change my statement somewhat. This stuff came out of Western Christianity. I don’t think she has the spirit of Jezebel, I think she has the spirit of fruit loops. The naive and desperate are fleeced by these people. It ain’t Jesus, there isn’t anything scripture about this kind of stuff.

Charles Page [12/01/2015 12:13 AM]
She looks like a modern Church of God female minister!!!

Glynn Brown [12/01/2015 5:19 AM]
Why is she in church with her head uncovered?
Why are they allowing a woman to preach?

Timothy D McCune [12/01/2015 4:20 PM]
i will start by admitting i know nothing about her or gem stones, however, is there proof of miracles?

Bishop Tony Comer [12/01/2015 6:45 PM]
I am biting at the bit to get into this discussion…but I think I’ll just observe!

Bishop Tony Comer [12/01/2015 7:33 PM]
A FEW YEARS AGO, gold dust was all the rage…before that, was jewels for teeth fillings…feathers, and all of them were exposed as fraudulent!… But greater than that, it is all completely unscriptural, sensationalism, appealing to the flesh….The Holy Spirit doesn’t need nor desire the gimmicks to manifest God’s glory and power! (Read the Book!) He we guide you in the right direction! ……BTW- I’m a Church of God Bishop…we would never endorse such….

Robert Borders [12/01/2015 7:54 PM]
When I first came into the COG I had old timers telling me about different types of Holy Ghost baptisms such as the blue flame experience or the white flame experience and so forth. Running the aisles and even the tops of pews was not uncommon. There were many unusual manifestations when Pentecost came to town or to the brush harbor. I am not so quick to ridicule unusual experiences.

John Kissinger [12/01/2015 7:58 PM]
blue fire is the strongest [http://cupandcross.com/blue-fire/] Even before Azusa, Irwin taught there were additional “baptisms of fire” he called baptisms of “dynamite”, “lyddite”, and “oxidite”. Nowadays you have Hillsong-like churches that have gone with C3, C4., etc. terminology http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/sanctification-in-the-assemblies-of-god/

John Kissinger [12/01/2015 8:06 PM]
Charles Page I hear your mention of the Awrey’s letters has gotten quite the attention across research-librarian communities Rick Wadholm Jr So a new qoute is in order “In Awrey’s letter about the same revival, there is a slight but important difference. He reported that “numbers” were 1) saved, 2) “sanctified wholly,” 3) “filled with the Holy Ghost and fire,” and 4) “dynamited” ” Perhaps our prayer should be that our churches get again “Holy Ghost http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/mcminnville-tennessee-church-of-god/

Robert Borders [12/01/2015 11:02 PM]
Peter and his wife Doris are two of the sweetest and most godly people I know. Peter has devoted his life to researching how churches grow and has taken risks to present his findings.

John Kissinger [12/02/2015 8:52 AM]
a pentecostal wedding video? https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/961360113887048/

John Kissinger [12/02/2015 9:42 AM]
Tammy Rockwell Jezabel was daughter of Ethbaal of Sidon (Lebanon/Phoenicia) and a false prophet of the Thyatira – hardly Western roots. Never say never Bishop Tony Comer never say never Alan N Carla Smith

Bertrum Sage [12/02/2015 7:03 PM]
Get stoned or gemstones

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