Denying WORD of PROPHECY today?

Denying WORD of PROPHECY today?

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I read a comment from one denying that there are prophets today. He based it on only Jesus speaking today and the prophets purpose was to form a foundation for the early church. While I agree Jesus has the last word, I see Philip’s 4 daughters in the Bible as prophetess and Agabus – And in these days prophets came from Jerusalem to Antioch. Then one of them, named Agabus, stood up and showed by the Spirit that there was going to be a great famine throughout all the world, which also happened in the days of Claudius Caesar. Acts 11:27-28. This happened after Jesus was ascended and please don’t tell me that the cannon had not been completed yet. Jesus is now speaking through us by the Spirit. It is still Jesus speaking if the prophet is anointed. Why would Jesus tell us how to recognize false prophets if prophets would cease after the ascension. There are several other incidents in the word, but let us go on to the foundation. Ephesians 4:11-14 had not come to fruition yet if we notice the words till we all come in the pericope. – aorist subjunctive active – It is an action without history or continuation. A “pure form”. A definite outcome that will happen as a result of another stated action. When the subjunctive mood is used in a purpose or result clause, then the action should not be thought of as a possible result, but should be viewed as a definite outcome that will happen as a result of another stated action– what is the stated action? equipping and edifying the body of Christ ( all those who are and will be saved) The above are nouns meaning the work they are to do.
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the [a]edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, So please read the bible and understand the full counsel of God instead of parroting the talking points which you have been taught. The work is not done yet. Perhaps instead of memorizing talking points you could sit under leaders who will equip and mature you in the faith.

The word for prophecy in the following verse stands for both communicating revealed truth and predicting events. We can’t dismiss either by our doctrinal bias. I urge all to read this with fear and trembling. Seek the wisdom from the Spirit and not radio teachers on this:
19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil
23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify[a] you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it.
It is interesting that 1 Thessalonians was written after the ascension, but before Hebrews. If many believe their limited understanding of Hebrews 1:1-2 without considering the entire biblical context and a correct exegesis of Hebrews, then the logical conclusion is that we must dismiss 1 Thessalonians from the canon of scripture. We must also dismiss much of the New Testament.

The above was a quick thought off the top of my head. If any has anything to add, please do. While I doubt that many true prophets are selling their books, giving seminars, podcasting, writing mass produced articles etc., I believe God is still giving true prophets. We must just learn how to tell the true from the false as the Lord instructed us. — knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1

Here’s one to add.
1 Corinthians 1:4-7 (KJV) 4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; 5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and [in] all knowledge; 6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: 7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
This seems to imply that all the gift will be until Jesus comes.

The thing is this. If all prophetic statements ended with Jesus on earth, then why did Paul tell us to test what was given long after Jesus ascended. It is either they are deeply brainwashed or they don’t understand that prophecies can tell the future as Agabus did in Acts. We don’t speak of any new doctrines though. The faith has been once delivered to us as Jude tells us. I just don’t think people go beyond soaking up teachings and not rightly dividing the word. They believe what they are taught and really don’t know the bible. Sadly many take examples of false and wild fire prophecies to pronounce that all are false. In the pericope above we are instructed to test them and throw out the false, but keep the good. It doesn’t say throw them all out.

8 Comments

  • Reply October 14, 2023

    Anonymous

    SADLY John Mushenhouse Neil Steven Lawrence Ron Culbreth Robert Cox Rasiah Thomas Wangure’s Reflections WHEN Link Hudson posted that –
    There is also the issue that if the foundation is a historical thing (no horizontal growth of the church… into new areas maybe?), then if some prophets are in the foundation and others aren’t… why would that be an issue? There are some commentators who think that the prophets here are first century prophets, not historical prophets. If that is the case, then one wouldn’t have to live in that time period to be a prophet.
    I don’t see any real case for cessationism in this passage at all..

    there was MUCH disagreement from Duane L Burgess Philip Williams Kyle Williams and Jeffrey Snyder just made a plain mockery display of the whole thing

    • Reply October 14, 2023

      Anonymous

      and as a historical theology major J.D. King Dale M. Coulter John Mushenhouse Roscoe Barnes III if you get to read what Link Hudson said or was trying to say it will become quickly clear that there is NO issue with the foundation as a historical thing Only someone who has not been brought up in pure puritan Pentecostalism like Philip Williams can understand something like this. Jeffrey Snyder who has engaged lately with profit Charles Page II in various groups can understand this pretty well though

    • Reply October 14, 2023

      Anonymous

      No, not at all if it is revealed through the Holy Spirit.

    • Reply October 14, 2023

      Anonymous

      Rasiah Thomas has the Holy Spirit reveled this to you personally ? Philip Williams claims seeing his grannie doing it but did not transfer to him

    • Reply October 14, 2023

      Anonymous

      Troy Day No, It is taught by our Ceylon Pentecostal Church.

    • Reply October 15, 2023

      Anonymous

      Rasiah Thomas ???

    • Reply October 16, 2023

      Anonymous

      Troy Day Whoever says prophecy for someone, God reveals through the Word of God. I have experienced so many times in my life. When I was suffering from Wasit, and Back pain for more than nine, and a half years, one of the prophets from another state of India did not see my face at all at that time but just over the phone. Now, I am alive without any pain at all for the last 6 years. Amen!

  • Reply October 14, 2023

    Anonymous

    Absolutely!
    Scripture is the authority.
    To prophesy is simply to declare the written Word of God.
    Do not be deceived.
    No one is getting “a word of prophecy” today. That is being tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine.

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