ARE WE GOING TO BELIEVE IN JOHN?

ARE WE GOING TO BELIEVE IN JOHN
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ARE WE GOING TO BELIEVE IN JOHN IN HIS TEACHING THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD?

No one has ever seen God. The only Son, who is the same as God and is at the Father’s side, he has made him known. (John 1:18)

Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and seventy of the leaders of Israel went up the mountain and they saw the God of Israel. Beneath his feet was what looked like a pavement of sapphire, as blue as the sky. God did not harm these leading men of Israel; they saw God, and then they ate and drank together. (Exodus 24:9-11)

17 Comments

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Stephen FY Teng

    >>>No human has ever seen the face of God except the first created couple of Adam & Eve, when they communed daily with Him until they disobeyed & sinned against Him.
    In the case of Exo 24 :9-11, they just saw His Body but not His face, ok ?

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Alex Smith

    Jacob seen GOD face to face in genesis 32:30 KJV 30. And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen GOD face to face, and my life is preserved .

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Michael N. Wambua

    In exodus the only saw His holiness.Moses saw the back of His appearance.Nobody beheld God face to face except the Son.

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Michael N. Wambua

    I think John meant seeing God face to face like a friend and not just seeing His form or just dweling in His Presence.Only Christ, that came from The Father has done that.

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Gamas Heet

    Simple. Can’t see the Spirit of the Lord.

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Gigi Halcon

    so then, what can we say then to Johns statement?If they, (pasts Old Testament people had actually God and now John contradicts it?)

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Glenda Smith

    Now of course, Roman Catholics and Orthodox simply cannot accept that all of Ignatius writings are forgeries. He is their “organizational and hierarchical savior”!

    They desperately need Ignatius. The Bible doesn’t help them.

    No other post-apostolic writer before 200 AD helps them.

    Remember, even Roman Catholic and Orthodox scholars agree with us: “In the New Testament, the terms bishop and presbyter are used interchangeably. This is evident from the following passage from Titus 1:5-7.” (

    5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

    6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

    7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

    8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;

    9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

    10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

    11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, TEACHING THINGS THEY OUGH NOT, FOR FILTHY MONEY.

    12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are ALWAYS lIARS, evil beasts, slow bellies.

    13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, THAT THEY MAY BE SOUND IN THE FAITH:

    14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, AND COMMANDMENTS OF MEN THAT TURN FROM THE TRUTH.

    John 4

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Djspasha Malkia Njoki

    Moses wanted to see God face to face bt God himself told him if you see my face you’ll die

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    David Odom

    So what is your point? That you aren’t able to properly exegete scripture? Or are you trying to put two different text at odds with one another?

  • Reply December 27, 2019

    Serena Monroe

    Adam and Eve saw God…I do believe

  • Reply December 28, 2019

    Wisdom Wesley

    The Bible meant whatever is written…they only saw a form, a temporary form which He chooses to show Himself. Ezekiel saw him as a weel in the middle of a weel, Moses saw him as a burning fire, and later saw His back like that of a man. This is to say he took up different forms to manifest Himself to the fathers or leaders. But Jesus Christ is the image of God which the God the

  • Reply December 28, 2019

    James Ray

    god showed part of himself not all of himself

  • Reply December 28, 2019

    ךתה נףכ

    Absolutely!!!!

  • Reply December 28, 2019

    ךתה נףכ

    God is even bigger than his throne room… Yahshua has always spoke for the father because he is the spiting image of his invisible father…Col 1: 14 and 15

  • Reply December 28, 2019

    Bob Hibbard

    If He had shown His true actual form to anyone, the Shekinah “wattage” would vaporize them on the spot. He just chose to reveal Himself in different manifestations at different times(e.g. pillar of fire, pillar of cloud, burning bush,etc. so as not to frighten people to death, as man’s mortal body probably could not withstand God’s full glory or true appearance whatever it may be.

  • Reply December 28, 2019

    Edgardo Sambo

    What they saw were angels (acts 7:30-38).

  • Reply December 29, 2019

    Lori McCool

    I, personally, believe that every who saw God in the OT saw God – The Son, Joshua, Jesus.

    One of His names is the Everlasting Father.

    Even when He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden, and after they sinned.

    He was in the personage of His Son when He appeared to Abraham and Sarah to tell them that they would have a son, when He cut covenant with Abraham.

    He was in the personage of His Son when the sons of God (the human descendants of Seth) when they came before the LORD.

    He was in the personage of His Son when He stood with Meshach, Shadrach, and Abnego in fiery furnace.

    At Sodom and Gomorah.

    And every other place in which God is described as being in the presence of man. It was Him in the personage of His Son.

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