A serious rebuke to #Evangelicals supporting #TRUMP Large numbers of…

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A serious rebuke to #Evangelicals supporting #TRUMP

A serious rebuke to #Evangelicals supporting #TRUMP

A serious rebuke to #Evangelicals supporting #TRUMP
Large numbers of self-identified evangelicals continue to vote for Trump. This is baffling for any number of reasons, the most damning of which is Trump’s admission that he never seeks God’s forgiveness. Recent data from the Wall Street Journal …

A serious rebuke to #Evangelicals supporting #TRUMP

A serious rebuke to #Evangelicals supporting #TRUMP
Large numbers of self-identified evangelicals continue to vote for Trump. This is baffling for any number of reasons, the most damning of which is Trump’s admission that he never seeks God’s forgiveness. Recent data from the Wall Street Journal pro…

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  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Varnel Watson

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Nathan Glenn

    Really sick of these self righteous do gooders criticizing people who voted the issues & their conscious and selected the most conservative candidate possible. Trump was the right choice & the only choice for people who care anything about our country.

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Pretty certain Lance Wallnau agrees with your stand. According to the Pew Research Center, 42 percent of self-identified evangelicals attend church occasionally, seldom, or never. More evangelicals than Catholics or mainline Protestants attend church regularly, but 42 percent is considerable. Of course, no one but God can judge souls, but the evidence suggest that many of Trump’s evangelical supporters are of the lukewarm variety, the kind referred to in Revelation 3:16: “So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.” What Christ spits out, Trump savors.

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Dan Irving

    As the days become darker, I am sure those who stand against the currents of their culture and the spirit of this world for the sake of the testimony of Jesus Christ will bear the most destestible monikers the world can apply, such as: “self righteous do gooders.”

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    hey Dan Irving were you able to review the rapture references ?

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Nathan Glenn

    “the spirit of the world” as you call it, I’m sure would side on the side you voted: Partial birth abortion, homosexual marriage, transgender bathrooms. With the choices available, how could any true believer vote for anyone but Trump? He is very flawed but the issues are clear.

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Truth of the matter is (as long discussed with Jon Sellers here) evangelical Christians were once again way too slow to participate in the elections. They had a good number of conservative choices which simply ignored until realized it’s too late and must vote Trump or else. And for this a price shall be paid very very soon BTW what you listed Nathan Glenn (abortion, homosexual, transgender) is exactly what Trump supported not so long ago when he flipped and he probably still does with 3 broken marriages and dishonest way of doing business. But we shall very soon all see…

  • Reply November 29, 2016

    Nathan Glenn

    Cruz, Huckaby, Santorium, & Carson are all much better men but how much change would they really bring?They would toe the party line and would be hamstrung by donors & special interest. Nice guys finish last is not a Christian principle but it is a very real reality in Washington. Maybe when Washington is cleaned out we can get nice, humble, saved, sanctified, Holy Ghost filled preachers to fill every position but for now we need a smart,shrewd, hard ball business executive that will bust heads & clean house. This needs to be done in both corrupt parties. Sorry, but Ben Carson could never do it. I would never vote him to be my pastor but he is just what we need to clean out Washington. We can agree to disagree but giving good people guilt trips for voting issues & their conscience is not exactly Christ like.

  • Reply November 30, 2016

    Alan N Carla Smith

    The last 3 weeks of campaign, Trump talked issues & policy, while HRC, BC & BHO spouted anti-Trump rhetoric which led to protests today!

  • Reply November 30, 2016

    Alan N Carla Smith

    What do you think of PresElect’s nomination of Jeff Sessions as AttGen?

    “Jeff Sessions has an opportunity to restore the integrity of a department that has deservedly fallen into disrepute, and a foundational American idea: that no one is above the law. With due diligence, he might succeed in leading a Justice Department that actually dispenses a bit of justice.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442334/jeff-sessions-attorney-general-justice-department-trump-administration

  • Reply November 30, 2016

    Alan N Carla Smith

    for me it wasn’t about Trump vs Clinton.
    It was more DNC platform vs GOP platform.
    Enough said…if you read it, that is.

  • Reply November 30, 2016

    Peter Christian

    Trump believes in Jesus

  • Reply December 1, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    So did Hitler.

  • Reply December 1, 2016

    Peter Christian

    Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Isn’t that your theology?

  • Reply December 1, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    No, not really Peter Christian I believe people are offered salvation at their own free will and could fall off from God’s irresistible grace. Trump says he’s Presbyterian i.e. chosen frozen pre-elect and no free will. Hitler might have been Lutheran at one time, also without free own free will demanded that all his works are pre-oradined by God and all his war crimes pre-determined as he felt to be elected as the sword of Gods judgment. These two examples are as far from God’s loving grace for salvation of the sinner as much as heaven from hell… Actually, they are exactly that far from each other!

  • Reply December 1, 2016

    Peter Christian

    so you are saying that not all who calls on the name Jesus will be saved?

  • Reply December 1, 2016

    Varnel Watson

    Matthew 24:13 says “the one who stands firm to the end will be saved”

  • Reply May 21, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    It’s a serious thing Joseph Kidwell

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Nathan Ridgeway

      I voted for Trump. And I will vote for him again! Never Democratic!

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Trump is more democratic than the republicans

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Nathan Ridgeway

      Troy Day l will never vote Democratic.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      but Trump was a democrat not long ago you know

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Nathan Ridgeway

      Troy Day I will never vote the liberal Democratic ticket. It’s un-Christian! “Shun the very appearance of evil.”

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Nathan Ridgeway did you vote for good Christian Jimmy Carter who run as a Democrat?

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Troy Day, Nathan Ridgeway prefers Republicans who brag about committing sexual assault, insults a war hero like John McCain when the one doing the insulting was a draft dodger.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Joseph Kidwell can think of noone like that 🙂

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Troy Day LOL!!!

    • Joseph Kidwell I feel so sorry for 45. His poor feet got him 5 deferments from Vietnam, and he’s obviously obese because he has those bad feet…. I bet the poor guy is in pain all the time; always golfing, chasing wild women, and tweeting at all hours… Poor guy, we got to pray for him. He must be suffering so badly 😛

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Nathan Ridgeway

      Troy Day No sir, I did not! I’m even happier now than then that I did not!

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Nathan Ridgeway

      Joseph Kidwell lf you want to get into an insult match, count me out. You are disrespectful.

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Nathan Ridgeway, where is the insult? All I did was describe the man you voted for.

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Jason Douglas Green, LOL!

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Rebecca L Ringler

      We have past elected officials with blood on their hands who had multiple people killed. Likely in both parties. I do not like either party, but vote for one platform over another. We do not have much of a choice of candidates when both parties have strong ties to the Jesuits, Illuminati, etc.

    • Reply May 24, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Rebecca, The Parties largely ignore their Platforms.

  • Reply May 22, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    SO Joseph Kidwell Nelson Banuchi Wish I could find the comment that was made earlier by someone who basically stated if you dont like Trump and his administration your souls is NOT right with God. I made fun of the Trump cult topic last month, but sure seems like some ppl are taking themselves too seriously

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Exactly right, Troy Day.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Well I take my last months remarks back. Way back! When you discard your brother and sister in Christ to replace them with Trump … the end is near Ricky Grimsley

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Troy Day yep!

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      Comment literally said – get’s your soul right with God … to love thy Trump or something…

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Even so come lord jesus. Many people may miss heaven over all this bitterness they have in heir heart.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Varnel Watson

      I am telling you this one time you may be right

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Troy Day, I’m just glad that the person who said that does not have a heaven to receive me into or a hell to send me to.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      I’m not trying to send anyone to hell. However, if men of God will forgive and teach forgiveness and teach people to get on their knees and pray when they get wronged, pray when they need a job, pray when they are sick…..we might see some changes. Instead all I hear from some is how whiteness is the devil and how trump is racist and all that. The church needs to help those that need help but some need the help of the revelation that you are responsible for where you end up. Work hard and trust God. Either you believe “Romans 8:28” or you don’t. Either you believe Colossians 3:10-11 or you don’t.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Nelson Banuchi

      It is unfortunate that many, conservative Evangelicals are exposing a simplistic us-vs.-them mindset, along with prejudice (if not racist), religiousness, their vulnerability to lies, (if not outright delusions), and their misunderstanding of what it is to be righteous (if not what it is to be Christian).

      I’m disappointed with Evangelicals, both Pentecostals and otherwise.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, “whiteness is the devil”? Are you kidding? Have you seen my picture? I have been white all my life!!!

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      If you believe in white privilege, then you are saying being born white is bad somehow. I ain’t having it. Take your race religion somewhere else.

    • Reply May 22, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Jesus doesn’t care if your white.

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, first, I don’t take orders from you, nor do I answer to you. Secondly, if you believe that one’s color does not have any effect in employment, job promotions, public perception and interaction with law enforcement, you are living in the twilight zone.

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      If you want to help African Americans, you should helps defund planned parenthood. That’s who’s killing them the most

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, as one who pastors an African-American church, I will get my guidance from them.

    • Reply May 23, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      You are supposed to be guiding them according to the word of God.

    • Reply May 24, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      If I am ministering among people of another culture, regardless of color or ethnicity, I will listen to their concerns, life experiences in order to be effective in ministry. The growth of the church here is a testimony to the wisdom that God has given me. The last thing that I need to do is to listen to you Ricky Grimsley.

  • Reply May 23, 2018

    Varnel Watson

    How timely CrossTheology and thank you Namely Progressive Pentecostals are The New Face of Christian Social Engagement not conservative republican evangelicals https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-5906.2007.00370.x

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