What is the Ordo Salutis?

Posted by Henry Volk in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

John Kissinger [11/13/2015 7:12 AM]
Link Hudson had some idea but it was never fully explored http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ordo-salutis-bapticostalis/

Henry Volk [11/13/2015 8:19 AM]
Interestingly enough, Parham had an ordo salutis, which is pretty surprising given how he was not very theologically astute.

Henry Volk [11/13/2015 8:19 AM]

John Kissinger [11/13/2015 8:21 AM]
Henry is adding to the list the so necessary to all #SANCTIFICATON

3 Comments

  • Street Preacherz
    Reply June 9, 2017

    Street Preacherz

    Can I add a little something?

  • Street Preacherz
    Reply June 11, 2017

    Street Preacherz

    Can I add a little something as this conversation is so important? And the role of the conscience essential. And of course the impact of God’s words thereof…
    When a man prays with tears in his eyes and tells God he’s sorry and asks God to forgive him. And puts his faith and trust in Jesus Christ to save him and deliver him. Sometimes God gives him a miracle. He passes from death to life. There is a spark of hope a light from heaven and the flame of faith in Jesus. Jesus Christ the Saviour. The spirit that was dead in sin comes alive in the new birth. It’s a miracle. Jesus not only takes the sin he takes the desire to sin.
    Sometimes prayers and tears and sorrow and asking God to save and deliver and nothing. They are not born again. It’s a failure. I have failed.
    I’ve seen men respond to the gospel, covered in the Spirit of God, crying in His presence, broken by love and conviction. And when asked “do you want to make a decision for Jesus Christ” only to hear them say no. Never to see them again.
    So my understanding is limited. I understand the gospel as well as anybody maybe. But some receive a miracle unto life and new birth and others don’t.
    But we must try.
    I prayed for a man out of his mind on dope. At a rock concert years ago. He fell like a sack of rocks. Squirmed on the floor like a snake. Until he was sitting up against a wall. Then he jumped up sober and his right mind. He said, “oh my kids are at home” and he ran home. I don’t know if he ever got saved. What am I saying?
    The “order” of salvation may be different. Good deals with a man throughout his life. We don’t. Coming to Christ and salvation and heart felt repentance and thorough deliverence from sin and it’s power will take some personal agony, a moral upheaval, and search and lostness and faith and prayer to God in Jesus name! Jesus is a personal Saviour. There are no shortcuts. This of course is the new birth I’m talking about. Not ordinances.

    Reference Psalm 3:8

    “Salvation belongeth unto the LORD: thy blessing is upon thy people. Selah”

    I don’t think this is much help scholastically???

  • Street Preacherz
    Reply June 11, 2017

    Street Preacherz

    We had a provocator last night. He really got to the fellas. I knew him. He was the voodoo guy from a month ago.
    I had to help them.
    He said “according to the Bible Solomon had 700 wives. I can have 700 wives”
    I yelled real loud in front if God and everybody
    “Solomon had 700 wives, you can’t even keep one!” He quieted down.
    Then quietly I said, “I couldn’t either. All have sinned and come short…”
    So we smiled and laughed and started over.
    Handling objections is critical. You have to have a right Spirit. You can be right and still be dead wrong.

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What is the Ordo Salutis?

Posted by in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post

John Kissinger [11/13/2015 7:12 AM]
Link Hudson had some idea but it was never fully explored http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ordo-salutis-bapticostalis/

Henry Volk [11/13/2015 8:19 AM]
Interestingly enough, Parham had an ordo salutis, which is pretty surprising given how he was not very theologically astute.

Henry Volk [11/13/2015 8:19 AM]

John Kissinger [11/13/2015 8:21 AM]
Henry is adding to the list the so necessary to all #SANCTIFICATON

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