Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 11:39 AM]
I find myself in much agreement with many things Zandh says, but at the same time, in sharp disagreement. His treatment of the Old Testament these days is almost at a Marcionite level. I’m bothered by what he often has to say, in both good and bad ways. One should be careful when digesting his message these days.
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 11:42 AM]
I have a problem reading much of what he says…. almost like reading the Democrat platform with Jesus thrown on top.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 11:44 AM]
I see him saying on things that step on both parties toes
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 11:47 AM]
Well, Dr. Micheal Brown handed it to him on some of his crazy ideas.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 11:49 AM]
Yup. I agree. He’s completely abandoned any notion of a penal substitutionary theory of atonement, and has picked up the atonement theories of the late Rene Girad, and a scapegoat theory instead
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 11:51 AM]
Interestingly, 10 years ago, I helped him work on a Left Behind sermon that packed the church 5,000 strong for a week. Now, he runs around saying the whole thing is heresy. I sure hope that thousand that got saved didn’t think so.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 11:53 AM]
I’m curious, is the church governance there have him as CEO, or is he held accountable to a board of elders?
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 11:56 AM]
I have been gone since WOLC went off the deep end but it was basically, the decoans were “yes” men who did whatever BZ said. It is commonly believed that the building is in his name but I do not know for sure. At one time, he was part of ICBM (ORU’s network) but I don’t believe that is current.
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 11:57 AM]
When he started talking about catholic theologicans all the time, my family made the decision to go back to Mike Bickle’s church.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 11:57 AM]
I doubt it’s personally in his name. Such would be too much of a liability.
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 11:58 AM]
As I said, it is believed. I am not sure. I do know that he can not be removed. He can only resign. The whole man of God thing.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 11:58 AM]
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:00 PM]
Last time I “talked” with him on FB, it was correcting some of his WW2 history about the atomic bombs. He has developed an anti-American position that is concerning.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 12:02 PM]
Well, I think some of those “anti American” statements are a much needed and healthy rebuke to the church these days. We tend to be so patriotic that we enter into a type of nationalistic idolatry
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:05 PM]
God never rebuked David for it. Jesus never said to hate the tribe your came from. Patriotism is at the core of the most important truth of the gospel: freedom.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 12:07 PM]
Sometimes patriotism becomes an idol. Israel’s patriotism lead it into idolatry and destruction. In Nazi Germany, it resulted in 2 wars and the death of 6 million Jews. Patriotism is a fine thing, but must be kept in balance.
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:09 PM]
God uses war to bring about his prophetic purposes. Many times, war is what opens the door for revival.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 12:11 PM]
Prophetic purposes sure. Revival? Can’t say I agree with that one
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:12 PM]
If you know church history, you would 🙂
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 12:13 PM]
Actually, I do. I strongly disagree with that statement because of it.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 12:14 PM]
Historical revivals have often pre dated national wars
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:15 PM]
Not sure what history you have read then. Even, America becoming a nation (Revolutionary war) was directly connected to the Great Awakening.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/13/2015 12:15 PM]
The first great awakening was well under way before the revolutionary war
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:16 PM]
The 1950’s was a glorious time for the Church because the war made us re-think how we see the great commission.
Peter A Vandever [12/13/2015 12:16 PM]
and there is a revival happening right now in Iraq.
WESLY RAJU [12/14/2015 9:26 PM]
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