Where did them biggens come from or what exactly is a #NEPHILIM ?

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Where did them biggens come from or what exactly is a #NEPHILIM ?

The Bible says very clearly in The Ryrie Study Bible Genesis 6:4 that the NephIlim were the offspring of the sons of God. This passage explained where the giants, Goliath, the #NEPHILIM, the #Raphaim, and the giants with the grapes in Canaan originated. So how often ARE Giants actually in the Bible?

1. Numbers 13:21-24 ( Giant Grapes from a Giants Garden )

2. Numbers 13:31-33 ( The Giants are said to Eat People )

3. Deuteronomy 2:10-12 ; 2:20-23 ( The LORD and the Israel are hunting down the giants and killing them )

4. Deuteronomy 3:11 ( A Giant Kings bed size is given )

5. I Chronicles 20:5-8 ( the brother of Goliath )

6. I Samuel 17:4-7, 23 ( the size and weight of Goliath’s armor ) 7. II Samuel 21:15-22 ( a large man with 24 digits )

8. Joshua 11:21-22 ; 14:12-15 ( Anakites are the descendants of the Nephilim )

9. Gen 6:1-7 ( The conception of the Nephilim )
Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 5:44 PM]
I wish that people could see how important this topic is.

John Kissinger [11/24/2015 5:47 PM]
It is important IF it really has to deal with the Promised Land. Found it interesting that though as David Smith stated “Angels do not have creative qualities (procreation)” Ryrie proposes that on this rare occasion they were able to cohabit with women and produce offspring of giants

Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 6:10 PM]
Perhaps they could not procreate amongst themselves but they were “sons”. As in i think all angels are male. Where i think the importance lies is that i believe that the disembodied spirits of their offspring are demons. Demons need bodies to interact with our world and i believe we are creating a new nephilim type things in labs all over the world. They wont have a spirit from god but a working body that an evil spirit could possess. I know that some people believe this and is their goal to try.

John Kissinger [11/24/2015 6:33 PM]
What was the Purpose of Satan in Producing Giants – – – It was the purpose of Satan and his fallen angels to corrupt the human race and thereby do away with pure Adamite stock through whom the seed of the woman should come. This would avert their own doom and make it possible for Satan and his kingdom to keep control of the planet earth indefinitely. It was said to Adam and Eve that the seed of the woman should defeat Satan and restore man’s dominion (Gen. 3:15). The only way then for Satan to avoid this predicted defeat was to corrupt the pure Adamite line so that the coming of the seed of the woman into the world would be made impossible. This he tried to accomplish by sending some of his fallen angels to marry the daughters of men as in Gen. 6:1-4, and producing the giant nations through them. There are two such eruptions of fallen angels taught in Gen. 6:4. There were giants in the earth in those days (before the flood); and also after that (after the flood), when the sons of God (fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men (any daughters of men—Cain, Seth and others), and they bare children to them (to the angels). Satan almost succeeded in his plan during the first eruption, for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth: of all the multitudes Noah and his sons were the only pure Adamites left to be preserved by the ark (Gen. 6:8-13; 1 Pet. 3:19-20). The main object of the flood was to do away with all this satanic corruption, destroy the giants, and preserve the pure Adamite stock so as to make good the guarantee of the coming of the seed of the woman, as in the plan of God.

Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 6:48 PM]
I agree with all that. However, what about after the flood? Was jesus eluding to this when he said it would be like the days of noah at his return. Yes they were eating and drinking and marrying but what were they eating and were they marrying? Could it be possible that we are creating the beasts that will come out if the bottomless pit? Among other things.

John Kissinger [11/24/2015 6:49 PM]
The face of Timothy Carter when reading Dake’s comment above 🙂 Rick Wadholm Jr Alan N Carla Smith

Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 6:52 PM]
Lol

Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 6:55 PM]
I dont see how people cant see the fallen angel stuff. Maybe they brainwash them at seminary?

Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 7:00 PM]
That is the face that tim carter makes every time i post anything. Im not sure timothy Timothy Carter and i agree on anything except jesus born of a virgin, crucified and resurrected?

John Kissinger [11/24/2015 7:32 PM]
have you ever wondered how can angels fall since they fly? I’d understand if they be walking and trip on something but how do you fall while flying? do you get short on wing fuel or something? anybody out there know?

Ricky Grimsley [11/24/2015 7:43 PM]
The “fell” in their “walk”with the lord. ?

John Kissinger [11/24/2015 7:49 PM]
and that’s my point #SANCTIFICATION is EVERYTHING

Timothy Carter [11/25/2015 10:53 AM]
What kind of go-go juice do angels drink? I eat angel food cake and I have never been able to fly.

John Kissinger [11/25/2015 12:29 PM]
They were genetically modified may be even via gmo foods

Tom Steele [11/26/2015 10:53 AM]
Was Andre the Giant genetically modified? I have a book written by a scientist with doctorate degrees who I believe is with the Creation Research Institute called “Evolution, Devolution and the Life Science Prize.” He presents that the world has been slowly devolving, not evolving. This is supported by the rise in diseases, the shortening of life spans, and many other things.

There are also stories of creatures in remote regions, like the Congo in Africa, that resemble smaller dinosaurs. Now, I’m not here to present wild tales, but these stories are out there and I can neither prove them or disprove them.

The point is, it is entirely possible that if there are humans today that are as big as the famous professional wrestler Andre the Giant, standing over 7 feet tall, than it is entirely possible that any giants mentioned in the Bible were really giants, no genetic modifications. Goliath was over 9 feet tall, right? That’s not an unreasonable stretch from the over 7 foot tall Andre. If the Bible said that Goliath was 25 feet tall, might be questionable, but 9 feet tall is within reason when you factor in the shorter life spans and that the world is devolving instead of evolving.

Seeing that the Nephilim, as they have been termed, lived before the food when men were recorded as living over 900 years old, it becomes even more reasonable to believe that the “giants” would grow to sizes reasonably larger than Andre the Giant.

John Kissinger [11/26/2015 10:54 AM]
well the #BIBLICAL giants were modified by giant grapes (and other giant foods); hence we have green giant foods

John Conger [11/26/2015 10:58 AM]
The de evolution of man is not an uncommon belief

John Kissinger [11/26/2015 10:59 AM]
God’s law of reproduction from the beginning has been everything after his own kind. It was not possible then that giants could be produced by men and women of ordinary size (Gen. 1:11-12, 21, 24-25; 8:19). It took a supernatural element, the purpose and power of Satan and his angels, to make human offspring of such extra size. After giants came into being, they then produced others of like size instead of ordinary sized men (Num. 13:33; 2 Sam. 21:16,18,20, 22; 1 Chr. 20:4-8).

Tom Steele [11/26/2015 11:00 AM]
LOL… I know that is a joke, however, back to devolution… giant grapes would be possible too back then within reason. We just know they were said to be giant. They may only have been two or three times the size of normal grapes we see today. It may have been that the bundles themselves were two or three times the size of a bundle of grapes today. Maybe it was both. the fact is, either option would be able to be called “giant grapes” and be within reason to believe without stretching faith.

John Kissinger [11/26/2015 11:00 AM]
The very purpose of Noah’s flood was to destroy the giant offspring of these angels known as the sons of God who “came in unto the daughters of men.” Rick Wadholm Jr See 10 Proofs Spirits Are Angels!

Tom Steele [11/26/2015 11:09 AM]
I can see that being read into the text, but it seems a bit of a stretch. If that was the only thing God was looking to accomplish why destroy everything and everyone only saving just enough to start over? If the Nephilim were all God was concerned with, then why not just send the same angel of death sent to Pharaoh’s house and wipe out the giants in one night? The passage says that all men became wicked and only Noah was found worth saving, along with his family. It said that God was grieved and had regrets for creating everything. It was much more than one group of beings that it’s not even clearly stated were angelic beings. That part is theologic theory. Was it Dake that first made that idea popular? I know it was Dake that came up with the gap theory, claiming a long period of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

John Kissinger [11/26/2015 11:23 AM]
The Purpose of Satan in Producing Giants It was the purpose of Satan and his fallen angels to corrupt the human race and thereby do away with pure Adamite stock through whom the seed of the woman should come. This would avert their own doom and make it possible for Satan and his kingdom to keep control of the planet earth indefinitely. It was said to Adam and Eve that the seed of the woman should defeat Satan and restore man’s dominion (Gen. 3:15). The only way then for Satan to avoid this predicted defeat was to corrupt the pure Adamite line so that the coming of the seed of the woman into the world would be made impossible. This he tried to accomplish by sending some of his fallen angels to marry the daughters of men as in Gen. 6:1-4, and producing the giant nations through them. There are two such eruptions of fallen angels taught in Gen. 6:4. There were giants in the earth in those days (before the flood); and also after that (after the flood), when the sons of God (fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men (any daughters of men—Cain, Seth and others), and they bare children to them (to the angels). Satan almost succeeded in his plan during the first eruption, for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth: of all the multitudes Noah and his sons were the only pure Adamites left to be preserved by the ark (Gen. 6:8-13; 1 Pet. 3:19-20). The main object of the flood was to do away with all this satanic corruption, destroy the giants, and preserve the pure Adamite stock so as to make good the guarantee of the coming of the seed of the woman, as in the plan of God.

Tom Steele [11/26/2015 11:31 AM]
I like that, and I do think it is a valid point, however, it is still theory that can’t be conclusively proven. There’s not enough stated in the account to draw a conclusive verdict on it. This is not a big deal though, any topic that is not made clear and left to interpretation in all likelihood is secondary theology that is not something that effects salvation, kinda like eschatology and the pre-trib, post-trib and mid-trib stuff. None of that really matters to salvation, and whether we get out of here before the wrath or we are made to endure the wrath, the only thing that matters is faith in Christ. Some things are left open for discussion, some are not. Unfortunately, at times I think the enemy encourages these discussions on non-essentials in order to keep us from what should be our primary focus, which is the message of the Gospel to save people from their sins.

John Kissinger [11/26/2015 11:33 AM]
well it DOES explain how non-sexual angels can cause appearing of giants via genetic modification with FOOD and it DOES explain why the snake wanted Adam and Eve to EAT in order to sin; also gives purpose and reason of FASTING Rick Wadholm Jr Ricky Grimsley

Tom Steele [11/26/2015 11:39 AM]
Also good points that would support the notion that GMOs are all connected to evil. Ultimately, anything that God did not create to be used as food should not be eaten.

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