Practical application of Pentecostal theology in politics, economy and social issues
That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; Luke. 11:50 KJV
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The Epistle of Paul to the Philippians is written in the second person plural, except for the following verse.
Philippians 4:3 (NASB)
3 Indeed, true companion, I ask you also to help these women who have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, together with Clement also and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.
This verse appears to be parenthetical, because here we find the Greek word, σύ, which is the second person singular; that is, in the following verse he reverts to the second person plural of address for the remainder of the epistle.
To whom then was Paul referring as the “True Companion” in this verse, if we understand that the epistle was supposed to be addressed to “all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi” in general (Phil 1:1)?
Was this perhaps some literary device to address each individual in the Philippian Church to take responsibility in helping Euodia and Syntyche to live in harmony?
In other words, was Paul aware of the “Bystander Effect“ (or Genovese Syndrome) in the First Century? The thesis avers that larger numbers of people decrease the likelihood that any one person in particular will step forward to help those in distress; responsibility to help thus remains diffused among the large number of people. That is, the individual must be addressed in order to prompt the response to assist those needing help.
In this context was the “True Companion” therefore each and every believer in Philippi (thus Paul’s attempt to mitigate the “Bystander Effect”), or was perhaps the “True Companion” actually some particular individual person in Philippi? Thoughts?
Troy Day
Philip Williams possibly Glynn Brown Philip Williams but most def. not ref. to our @followers
Philip Williams
Troy Day regarding AD 70, those who experienced the end of Old Covenant Judaism. As regarding the Age of the Gentiles, Jews who are opposed to him.
Neil Haverly
Philip Williams everyone of the epochs is made up by the different generations of the inhabitants, just like the way we have categorized our own generations, from the greatest gen, baby boomers, Gen x, etc. then you have to add in the different ages like the American Indians do, with Us being in the fourth age and we’re all looking forward to the fifth age which is the happiness and eternal bliss age which the other Powers Principalities Thrones etc aka the little g gods and their offspring are still keeping us all from, including themselves.
Philip Williams
Neil Haverly are you referring to the New Age, Age of Aquarius?
Neil Haverly
Philip Williams some have called it that
Philip Williams
Neil Haverly what has happened to Pentecostals!
Pentecostal Theology
Neil Haverly looks like Philip Williams is sticking to his dualism without the Holy Spirit which Neil Steven Lawrence John Mushenhouse exposed prior
Neil Haverly
Pentecostal Theology actually The Pentecostal movement was a huge revelation of Truth in the world church and there is a great place in Lancaster area I think that has the ten commandments on a hillside and a ton of other informational monuments, plan for a full day of it to really take the place in, and it’s also a good bit of hiking up and down both hillsides.
Troy Day
Neil Haverly Lancaster SC or Lancaster OH?
Neil Haverly
Troy Day Pennsylvania
Neil Haverly
It might be between Lancaster and Blue mountain retreat center and unfortunately I don’t remember it’s name
Troy Day
Neil Haverly that’s Amish mafia country 🙂
Troy Day
Philip Williams in Luke 11:50, Jesus is referring to “those who experienced the end of Old Covenant Judaism (AD 70)” and in the Age of the Gentiles, simply “Jews who are opposed to him”:
Immediate Context
The word “generation” in Luke 11:50 refers first to the contemporaries of Jesus, not a future group living at AD 70 or during the “Age of Gentiles.”
Greek Usage of “Generation” (γενεά)
The term nearly always means a contemporaneous group—not a distant future or symbolic age. The natural meaning is people alive at the same time as Jesus.
Historical Fulfillment
Jesus speaks of judgment falling on “this generation.” The destruction in AD 70 included the whole city, not just those opposed to him, contradicting the limiting of judgment solely to unbelieving Jews.
Universal Application
Jesus links the persecution of prophets “from Abel to Zechariah” to his current audience (Lk 11:50-51), not a later or broader set of Jews. This points to direct accountability, not general or future guilt.
Ethical Justice
The idea that later Jews who had no involvement in ancient crimes should be punished lacks ethical basis; the judgment is on the actual persecutors present in Jesus’ time.
Age of Gentiles Misapplied
The “Age of Gentiles” is a term from Luke 21:24, referring to a time when Gentiles control Jerusalem. It does not correspond to future Jewish generations but to a historical period.
No Mention of AD 70 in Luke 11
There is nothing in Luke 11:50 indicating AD 70 or destruction language; it is about accountability for rejecting the prophets and Jesus himself.
Prophetic Pattern
Biblical prophecy generally indicts the present generation for their response, not a future group separated by decades.
Early Church Understanding
Most Church Fathers read “generation” as referring to Jesus’s contemporaries. There’s little historical support for a dual reference to later “Ages.”
Salvation Available to All
The New Testament consistently teaches that both Jew and Gentile can be saved, not condemned collectively based on ethnic or generational status.
Jose Salinas may have 10 counters here but John Mushenhouse got his number
Philip Williams
Troy Day no the believers escaped Jerusalem in AD 70 after witnessing the abomination that causes desolation. That was when James, the brother pf Jesus, Jerusalem’s intercessor, was pushed off the pinnacle of the Temple. Jesus had previously wept for the city and its mothers whose own babies they would eat.
Jerusalem was believed to be a place of safety, why its walls were built. Most importantly, wasn’t the Temple inside those walls? But the believers trusted Jesus, who is the Savior.
Salvation is available while it’s available. Now is the Day of salvation! You have abandoned the Savior and joined the politically correct world that is slated for destruction. O man! Repent this very day!
Neil Haverly
Troy Day great song
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Pentecostal Theology I don’t remember where it was exactly, tho I would think judging by the username you should be able to research it
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Neil Haverly Late in 2023, both PCCNA and USCCB endorsed an official bilateral and every member of both teams has an ecclesial endorsement. Dr. Hunter reported directly to the PCCNA executive committee during the February 2024 PCCNA conference in Montgomery, AL. The PCCNA – USCCB Dialogue quinquennial theme is “Waters that Unite: Waters that Divide”. The 2025 session hosted by USCCB will focus on the Season of Creation . The 2026 session hosted by the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel will celebrate the 120th anniversary of the Azusa St. Revival.
Thanks to an invitation from the Rev. Dr. David Han, the first session in this historic bilateral will be hosted by the Pentecostal Theological Seminary. A summary written by Dr. Kimberly Belcher (UUSCCB) and Rev. Dr. Harold Hunter (PCCNA) for the 2024 theme follows below. New ground will be broken with an actual foot washing service led by Rev. Dr. David Han. The Pentecostal paper will be read by Rev. Dr. Christopher Thomas, an expert on this subject.
The historic USCCB – PCCNA Dialogue will first meet October 2 – 4, 2024, at the Pentecostal Theological Seminary, in Cleveland, TN. Under the dialogue theme, “Waters that Unite: Waters that Divide,” this initial session will look at the example of Jesus in John 13 where he washed his disciples’ feet. Although the method of practice varies between these traditions, there is common ground to be found. For Pentecostals, foot washing is a holy ordinance like that laid bare 30 years ago at the founding of PCCNA, known as the “Memphis Miracle”. For Catholics, it is a sign of charity that begins the Holy Triduum (“three days”) that remembers Christ’s passion, death, and resurrection. For both, it serves as a call to the mutual love and service Jesus asks of his followers.
The PCCNA team will remain unchanged at the start of the formal bilateral. The USCCB team will be led by Bishop Peter Smith. Bishop Smith comes as a member of the USCCB Bishops’ Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs. Rev. Dr. Walter Kedjierski’ term as Executive Director at the USCCB Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs has come to an end. The next officer is Rev. Russell K. McDougall. Rev. McDougall has been serving as the Rector of the Tantur Ecumenical Institute in Jerusalem for Holy Cross at the University of Notre Dame.
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Chinta V R Raju
Jesus is reffering the ungodly, evil people of the old times and of those olden days, the pharasees and the the saddusees of his times and even the people of the latter days! It’s a prophecy of jesus christ in లక్. 11:50. Dear saints in christ.
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