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Should Christians watch Game of Thrones? WHY?
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To what extent was the LORD “sought” and “found” in Isaiah 65:1?
Isaiah 65:1a
נִדְרַ֙שְׁתִּי֙ לְל֣וֹא שָׁאָ֔לוּ
I was ready to be sought by those who did not ask for me;נִמְצֵ֖אתִי לְלֹ֣א בִקְשֻׁ֑נִי
I was ready to be found by those who did not seek me. (ESV)
The ESV (also NRSV, NET, NASB; contrast NIV, HCSB) take these two verbs – “ready to be sought … ready to be found” – as tolerative nifals, I gather.
Joüon-Muraoka (a Hebrew grammar) says of the tolerative nifal נדרש:
generally with a notion of effective action….to allow oneself to be asked, and that effectively, hence practically = to answer (speaking of God)
Walkte & O’Connor (another Hebrew grammar) follow this idea, offering the translation:
I answered (< allowed myself to be sought by) those who did not ask (for me);
I revealed myself to (< allowed myself to be found by) those who did not seek me.
This “efficacy” nuance is different from the “ready to…” translation of the ESV etc.
How should we decide in what way to understand the nifal here? Is this verse intended to convey something already accomplished (revealed, answered) or merely offerred?
1. The other uses of the potentially “tolerative” nifal דרש (with subject = Yahweh) are in Ezekiel; mostly these could also be taken either way.
2. The LXX seems to carry a similar sense of “effective”: Εμφανὴς ἐγενόμην τοῖς ἐμὲ μὴ ζητοῦσιν, εὑρέθην τοῖς ἐμὲ μὴ ἐπερωτῶσιν· = I became visible to those who did not seek me; I was found by those who did not inquire after me. This may have more to do with reading them as passives (“was found” + reconciliation of “did not ask” with “was sought” –> “became visible”) rather than a reflection of the translator having read Jouon, but you never know.
Varnel Watson
I would say a big NO Chad Macdonald Isara Mo
Isara Mo
Troy Day
Not only thrones but even movies if not watched with sobriety can be a channel for demonic channeling
Isara Mo
Troy Day
Wathched a few…clips but I wouldn’t recommend it to any person serious with God
Isara Mo
Troy Day
While we are on this may I ask where do men get their IDEAS for a movie, computer or video game from?..
Isara Mo
Isara Mo
We know that there are only two sources of knowledge…demoni andvdivine(James 3)
Tom Torbeyns
Waaaaaaaaay too much sexuality in that series so Christians should not. watch it.
Varnel WatsonVan Go
Nope. Nothing edifying or interesting in it
Varnel Watson
but Star Trek and star wars are OK?
Robert Spurlock
The Jedi of Star Wars were partially based on the Yadist Prophets (an obvious reference to Judaism.) Unfortunately other ideas like Taoism and Shaolinism also found its way into the mix, mostly because George Lucas wanted his creation to be able to do combat and Christianity would have not fit in with his story because Christians would be seen as non violent. The next installment may actually lead to a more Christian idea of George Lucas’s fictional force as it will feature an organization called the Church of the Force, complete with a Pastor as their leader. The old man at the beginning of “The Force Awakens” is now said to be one of its pastors and the son of the church’s founder. It is Rumored that the new lead Character “Rey” is the daughter of one of the Church’s adherents and possibly even a pastor.
Just something I have heard.
Star Wars does have a lot of symbolism for Christian themes. i. e. Old Ben giving his life for others, the force guiding ones actions like the Holy Ghost. The redemption of Darth Vader, the Dark Emperor who clearly represents Satan. The fact that the emperor disguised himself as a force for good when he was actually evil. The idea of Temptation and a fall from Grace. These symbolisms were placed there purposefully according to Lucas himself.
Joe Absher
“By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter;
Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.”
– Hebrews 11:24-26
Isara Mo
All computer games are a channel.and an opportunity for the demonic to plant seeds …
Aren’t they(the computer games) thoughts arranged in programs?
Varnel Watson
I still did not read a good reason as of WHY?
Isara Mo
Troy Day
Simple, as a man THINKS so he is.
There is no thought which is a DEAD THOUGHT..
Jesus said His words are spirit and life….
What about Satans words?
Spirit and DEATH?
Varnel Watson
never seen it SO I am not quite clear of the content – but are you saying it is demonic like Star Trek or something ?